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  1. I've only done twenty or thirty shots, so I'm not the expert, but maybe someone will comment on anything wrong with what I do and we will all learn.

    I use the same size needle that Phil does, 27g x 1/2". It takes a long time to draw the oil/T out of the vial, but I can wait. Since I'm doing shots daily I don't need to use a harpoon every day.

    It seems that I have more problems when I shoot closer to my knee. I hit a nerve once (it was with a longer needle before I switched to 1/2") and just stopped pushing in further and injected there. It wasn't as bad as you described.

    Also closer to the knee I have hit veins close to the skin that makes it bleed maybe 1/8 of a teespoon when I pull the needle out. No blood when I aspirate.

    When I inject I push it in slowly and stop for a few seconds about three times. After it is all in I wait for about thirty seconds before I pop the needle out and then massage the area.

    I'm guessing that you hit a nerve and sounds like maybe you are pushing too fast when you inject. Is that possible? You say you couldn't imagine how tough it would be with a 27g needle. It's not that tough, but it does take a while.

    I started drawing from the vial with one needle and switching to a fresh/sharp needle for injecting. Needles are cheap and I had a few that hurt more than a fresh needle after using them to draw from the vial.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by kincaiddave
    I've only done twenty or thirty shots, so I'm not the expert, but maybe someone will comment on anything wrong with what I do and we will all learn.

    I use the same size needle that Phil does, 27g x 1/2". It takes a long time to draw the oil/T out of the vial, but I can wait. Since I'm doing shots daily I don't need to use a harpoon every day.

    It seems that I have more problems when I shoot closer to my knee. I hit a nerve once (it was with a longer needle before I switched to 1/2") and just stopped pushing in further and injected there. It wasn't as bad as you described.

    Also closer to the knee I have hit veins close to the skin that makes it bleed maybe 1/8 of a teespoon when I pull the needle out. No blood when I aspirate.

    When I inject I push it in slowly and stop for a few seconds about three times. After it is all in I wait for about thirty seconds before I pop the needle out and then massage the area.

    I'm guessing that you hit a nerve and sounds like maybe you are pushing too fast when you inject. Is that possible? You say you couldn't imagine how tough it would be with a 27g needle. It's not that tough, but it does take a while.

    I started drawing from the vial with one needle and switching to a fresh/sharp needle for injecting. Needles are cheap and I had a few that hurt more than a fresh needle after using them to draw from the vial.
    Thanks for the comments! Maybe I WAS trying to inject too quickly. With a 25g, the oil seems tough as hell trying to push it through that small of a needle, so yeah, a 27g will certainly take longer. I thought I was doing it all correctly. It could have been a couple of things, like hitting a nerve or close to it AND pushing too fast.

    I always change needles after drawing from the vial. I draw with a 23g and inject with the 25g. Guess I could have found a dull needle as well, but what are the odds of everything going so badly at the same time? Once the terror subsides, I'll be ready to try again. Actually I thought about doing another one tonight to get my confidence back, but that isn't the purpose of HRT. Next week will be my right quad, more to the outer side and up closer to my hip (away from the knee).

    Thanks again for the suggestions.

    SMH
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  3. I don't change needles and have not problems.
    Phil

  4. How about pull out the plunger and just draw it with another syringe and just stick head of needle in and shot it into the other syringe and the just put plunger back on when done

    or better draw with normal needle and i had tips that you just switch to 27 gauge half inch and just shoot it in

  5. I only shooting .25mls I do my t shots every 3 days.
    Phil
    Quote Originally Posted by hardasnails1973
    How about pull out the plunger and just draw it with another syringe and just stick head of needle in and shot it into the other syringe and the just put plunger back on when done

    or better draw with normal needle and i had tips that you just switch to 27 gauge half inch and just shoot it in
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  6. Don't forget to "aspirate" the needle before injecting the oil, so that you are sure you are not in a blood vessel. If it goes in easy, that could be trouble.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by wildfox
    Don't forget to "aspirate" the needle before injecting the oil, so that you are sure you are not in a blood vessel. If it goes in easy, that could be trouble.
    true but a few airpockets are not going to kill you. Now a cc or more then you might have a slight problem. It may be have to be injected more into a vein for it to do damage. With 27 gauge 1/2 inch i do not think you need to worry. Now year ago when I was just starting out my freind use to litterallly use my azz as a dart board when giving me shots. Luckily he had good aim LOL How were we to know we were young and naive. Best time I had was giving a newbe a shot. i get and 18 gauge 2.5 inch needle and load it up and be like ok you ready.

    Should have seen look on his face..kodak moment definetly. Those were the good old day (sigh)

  8. It's true that a tiny airbubble or two won't hurt....in muscle tissue. A "bolus" (ball) of oil in a blood vessel will hurt on its way the heart where it will kill.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by hardasnails1973
    true but a few airpockets are not going to kill you. Now a cc or more then you might have a slight problem. It may be have to be injected more into a vein for it to do damage. With 27 gauge 1/2 inch i do not think you need to worry. Now year ago when I was just starting out my freind use to litterallly use my azz as a dart board when giving me shots. Luckily he had good aim LOL How were we to know we were young and naive. Best time I had was giving a newbe a shot. i get and 18 gauge 2.5 inch needle and load it up and be like ok you ready.

    Should have seen look on his face..kodak moment definetly. Those were the good old day (sigh)
    LMAO! Man that is funny! Like using a spear gun on the poor guy!

    My Rx was for 25g 1", so that is what I am stuck with. I'll be ok when it is time for the next one. All though I must admit a bit of anxiety until all goes well again.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by wildfox
    Don't forget to "aspirate" the needle before injecting the oil, so that you are sure you are not in a blood vessel. If it goes in easy, that could be trouble.
    I aspirated, so I don't think that was the problem. I think I was too much on top of my quad and too close to the knee. Even injecting the oil hurt like hell, so it beats me. Next time will be a bit more on the side just a tad. Really do appreciate the comments though.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
    I aspirated, so I don't think that was the problem. I think I was too much on top of my quad and too close to the knee. Even injecting the oil hurt like hell, so it beats me. Next time will be a bit more on the side just a tad. Really do appreciate the comments though.
    Here is a good link that may help.
    SpotInjections.com
    Phil

  12. Quote Originally Posted by pmgamer18
    Here is a good link that may help.
    SpotInjections.com
    Phil
    Thanks gamer. I went there and found out I was a way too much on top of my quad and too far down (close to the knee). I probably hit right in between where the 2 muscles come together. In a couple of days, I'll be sure to get more slightly off center and on the upper quad more.

    Thanks again.......

  13. An update to my thread. Tomorrow will be injection #5 and the TRT is more noticeable. For the first time in years I am actually getting horny! I'm starting to get 3/4 erections when we start fouling around, so at least I am seeing an improvement! The wife and I have plans for a Friday session of sex. After all this time, I may have a bit of a confidence problem, but we will see.

    Tomorow's injection will be another quad shot. I've done my homework, and don't expect the results I got with the last one.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
    An update to my thread. Tomorrow will be injection #5 and the TRT is more noticeable. For the first time in years I am actually getting horny! I'm starting to get 3/4 erections when we start fouling around, so at least I am seeing an improvement! The wife and I have plans for a Friday session of sex. After all this time, I may have a bit of a confidence problem, but we will see.

    Tomorow's injection will be another quad shot. I've done my homework, and don't expect the results I got with the last one.
    Great take some Cialis to help it along.
    Phil

  15. Quote Originally Posted by pmgamer18
    Great take some Cialis to help it along.
    Phil
    Just so happens my Dr. gave me some to try. I haven't responded to Viagra or Levitra in a long time, so we will see. But trust me, I plan on giving it (or in this case her) all I've got!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
    Just so happens my Dr. gave me some to try. I haven't responded to Viagra or Levitra in a long time, so we will see. But trust me, I plan on giving it (or in this case her) all I've got!
    Take it after you eat at noon and you will be good to go that night.
    Phil

  17. Another quick update:

    Tonight was leg day and injection day. I took it easy as I was very apprehensive about the injection. Bottom line though, nice and sweet! I injected into the right quad, slightly off center further up towards the hip, right in the meat of the muscle. Totally painless! After aspirating, I pushed the plunger nice and slow to allow the muscle absorb all the oil. Once complete, I left the needle in for a few seconds and slowly withdrew. Only the smallest droplet of blood came to the surface. Now THAT is how it should always be!

    So I learned a lesson from last week, and I'm feeling much more comfortable doing this. Next week (before my next injection) I need to get some blood work done to see where my levels are at. So stay tuned, this may get interesting.

  18. That's good to hear! It must put your mind at rest and there won't be the same amount of drama the next time.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kincaiddave
    That's good to hear! It must put your mind at rest and there won't be the same amount of drama the next time.
    LOL! Or pain! That was more tramatic than the drama!

    Am very interested in seeing the blood test results. Erections are definitley stronger, but not as long lasting as they should be. But most certainly an improvement! Even the wife is very happy with the results and told me she is most definitely interesting in sex, now that I am returning to my old self again.

  20. Well, overall the "session" with the wife was a successful failure. Erection strength and quality was pretty good, but it seems I'm still dealing with a lack of sensation. E2 to high maybe? Blood tests should tell me something this next week.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
    Well, overall the "session" with the wife was a successful failure. Erection strength and quality was pretty good, but it seems I'm still dealing with a lack of sensation. E2 to high maybe? Blood tests should tell me something this next week.
    If it is because of high E2 it takes some time to come back.
    Phil

  22. It was one of your posts I believe that has me thinking it is E2 related.

    I'm getting blood work done this next Thursday before my next injection. Results should give a better picture of what is going on. I'll post them when I get the results.

  23. Just an update a few days before blood work. Still no morning wood, but erections are finally back when aroused. I'm actually feeling like a man again. Great mood, sleeping well, sex on my mind again.

    Nipples are still erect as ever, and I want to take care of that. I haven't seen my GP in the gym the last 2 weeks, so he may be on vacation. I hope not, I need him to approve the blood tests for me.
  24. A Rant!


    I called my GP to get my blood work done, only to find out he is TAD to Africa of all places. (He is active duty military.....I'm retired.) and won't be back until Jan! Now I have no idea what the hell to do, since he is the only one that can get the blood work.

    The plan was to get the blood work done tomorrow morning.....that ain't happening. To say I am upset is an understatement!!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
    I called my GP to get my blood work done, only to find out he is TAD to Africa of all places. (He is active duty military.....I'm retired.) and won't be back until Jan! Now I have no idea what the hell to do, since he is the only one that can get the blood work.

    The plan was to get the blood work done tomorrow morning.....that ain't happening. To say I am upset is an understatement!!
    Call his office and get a script for the blood work go to a blood lab like Quest and have the blood done and make sure they send the test to you in the mail.
    Phil
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