My Road To Being Me Again
- 12-13-2006, 07:19 PM
- 12-14-2006, 07:16 PM
Another quick update:
Tonight was leg day and injection day. I took it easy as I was very apprehensive about the injection. Bottom line though, nice and sweet! I injected into the right quad, slightly off center further up towards the hip, right in the meat of the muscle. Totally painless! After aspirating, I pushed the plunger nice and slow to allow the muscle absorb all the oil. Once complete, I left the needle in for a few seconds and slowly withdrew. Only the smallest droplet of blood came to the surface. Now THAT is how it should always be!
So I learned a lesson from last week, and I'm feeling much more comfortable doing this. Next week (before my next injection) I need to get some blood work done to see where my levels are at. So stay tuned, this may get interesting.
- 12-14-2006, 08:09 PM
That's good to hear! It must put your mind at rest and there won't be the same amount of drama the next time.
12-15-2006, 08:37 AM
LOL! Or pain! That was more tramatic than the drama!Originally Posted by kincaiddave
Am very interested in seeing the blood test results. Erections are definitley stronger, but not as long lasting as they should be. But most certainly an improvement! Even the wife is very happy with the results and told me she is most definitely interesting in sex, now that I am returning to my old self again.
12-15-2006, 07:02 PM
Well, overall the "session" with the wife was a successful failure. Erection strength and quality was pretty good, but it seems I'm still dealing with a lack of sensation. E2 to high maybe? Blood tests should tell me something this next week.
12-15-2006, 07:51 PM
If it is because of high E2 it takes some time to come back.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
12-17-2006, 09:52 AM
It was one of your posts I believe that has me thinking it is E2 related.
I'm getting blood work done this next Thursday before my next injection. Results should give a better picture of what is going on. I'll post them when I get the results.
12-18-2006, 07:13 PM
Just an update a few days before blood work. Still no morning wood, but erections are finally back when aroused. I'm actually feeling like a man again. Great mood, sleeping well, sex on my mind again.
Nipples are still erect as ever, and I want to take care of that. I haven't seen my GP in the gym the last 2 weeks, so he may be on vacation. I hope not, I need him to approve the blood tests for me.
12-20-2006, 08:51 PM
I called my GP to get my blood work done, only to find out he is TAD to Africa of all places. (He is active duty military.....I'm retired.) and won't be back until Jan! Now I have no idea what the hell to do, since he is the only one that can get the blood work.
The plan was to get the blood work done tomorrow morning.....that ain't happening. To say I am upset is an understatement!!
12-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Call his office and get a script for the blood work go to a blood lab like Quest and have the blood done and make sure they send the test to you in the mail.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
12-20-2006, 09:17 PM
I've got to agree with Phil. Are you sure your doc is the only one that can write you a script? There has to be someone else.
12-21-2006, 07:42 PM
Well, the military has a way of complicating everything. I have to get my Uro to order the blood work, but the referral to him has expired now. The plan now is I 'm going to call my Uro and have him fax my military treatment facility and ask for a new referral. Once he receives that, he can do the blood work in his office and the insurance will cover it.
That is the best I can do for now. The military won't do the blood work since I am not directly under their care for HRT. And since I'm under the care of my Uro, I can't ask for the referral myself. Do I hear Catch-22? Whole process will take a couple of weeks, even with the Holidays.
In the mean time, I'll stay with the current protocol of weekly injections. At least my test levels will be stable.
12-25-2006, 06:02 PM
Just a note to this thread.
Attempted another session with the wife today. Couldn't maintain or finish! This is really starting to piss me off! Some Christmas gift. I had planned on really having a great time today.
12-25-2006, 07:19 PM
I think if you got some Indolplex/DIM in 4 to 7 days you would do much better but then I think I told you this before.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
PhytoPharmica Indolplex with DIM
If your Estradiol is high taking Viagra will not help it kills your sex life gives you bad ED and trouble reaching an orgasm.
Are you doing anything for Estradiol.
12-26-2006, 07:16 PM
Yeppers, got some on order now. I have noticed I feel much better and perform better a couple of days after my injection. I'm now due in 2 days, so I'm thinking E2 is in fact causing the problem, as well as dropping test levels. I've been thinking about twice weekly injections at 1/2 dosage like you, just to see how it goes.Originally Posted by pmgamer18
I thank ya kindly pmgamer.
12-26-2006, 09:16 PM
Also to help your liver get rid of the E's that get converted from E2 take some TMG at bed time some of it converts into SAM E and you will sleep better. As per Dr. John.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
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12-27-2006, 07:50 PM
Will do. Just gotta wait for the next payday to come around, I ran out pay from the last one. I still got lots of days, just no pay!Originally Posted by pmgamer18
01-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Just an update on my log. Completed my weekly injection on schedule. Everything remains about the same. Libido has increased, so has performance, but not like it should. Gonna try the DIM and see what happens.
On a side note, I HAVE noticed strength has increased in the gym. Not significantly, but certainly noticeable.
01-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Don't feel bad I was able to go for a 30 min. walk today for the first time in a dam long time and I felt good after. Things are looking up we will get there and may fall back to I know I do a lot but I keep at it.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
01-01-2007, 09:50 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Phil. I really appreciate it. The progress is slow and steady, that is for sure.Originally Posted by pmgamer18
01-04-2007, 09:56 PM
Injection again tonight. Smooth as silk. I really have no recourse but to stay on this therapy until I can get to my Urologist. I figure I'm pretty much shutdown now anyway.
Speaking of my GP Dr. he is finally back in town, so now I'm going to attempt to get my blood work done to see what is going on.
Sex is still pretty much a failure, and no morning wood. However, on a good note, I am much better than where I was before I started TRT. At least I'm interested in sex again, and I can manage an erection, although it isn't long lasting.
Next payday I'm going to order the DIM and TMG as suggested and see what happens, unless I can get the bloodwork done.
01-05-2007, 09:37 PM
A pleasant surprise last night. I rolled over to get more comfortable to find an erection you could have bronzed! Unfortunately it didn't show itself this morning when I woke up......go figure.
01-07-2007, 08:56 PM
Anyone have any idea how much my test levels would typically increase at 100mg Test C each week that I am on? In theory, would it add an extra 400ng of total, or 500 etc? I'm just curious.
I need to get this HRT thing figured out.....sex was yet another failure again yesterday. I am truely blessed to have such a patient and loving wife to put up with this kind of crap. She deserves better.
01-09-2007, 08:50 PM
I was there too bro (except for the ED)
So MD Hunter,
I am only telling you this, because the group below helps exactly what you are talking about and I personally have found success and its MD administered and safe. I am not advertising, but I am a true believer, as I am an entrepreneur, that when a business does me good, others will know about it.
12 Months ago, I was overweight, low libido, sagging muscles, no energy and no drive to even want to get energy. I was a bit depressed also. It was then I read an article in GQ Magazine on Cenegenics. Here is the article; NXTbook flash detection page
Cenegenics, and particularly my doc, Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ have been an amazing asset to my life. I am not a body builder, nor do I want to be, I am a big guy, work out hard and look good. I am 285lbs, 6'4" and under 20% bfi. Do I want to get more lean, yes, but not much bigger. Well this is how I have always felt, and not until I started the program did I actually see measurable results. I am 39 years old and feel better and look better than I ever have. I grow in the gym like a weed and have as much energy as I want to have. My mind is quick and I am always ready for sex.
I also cannot confirm this, but prior to this program, my wife and I had been trying to get pregnant for 5 years to no avail. Well, 15 weeks ago we found out we were pregnant. Say what you want, but I cant help but think this program may have had something to do with it.
The program is fairly simple, 1 shot of HGH daily from my click pen in the stomach. Not painful at all. 2 times a week I take HCG and take DHEA, Folic and Melatonin daily. That's it. My blood is tested every 3 months and the amounts are adjusted accordingly. My levels are all at where I was in my 20's. In fact, I am so into the program, I was interviewed and was the feature in an article about my experience and why I would do something like this. I can post it of you want.
So I would say, at the very least, either call Dr. Silverman or Cenegenics and go for the free analysis, I think its free, I cant really remember, but It really is worth it. At that point you can make up your mind if it is something you want to do. The program costs me on average in the $750 a month or so, but hey, I am sure you are worth a car payment a month.
And one last thing, prior to this program, I had never given myself a shot and have never been on steroids, and am not now. I am thinking about fat cutters though, but probably wont have the balls to actually do it. But thats me.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
All the best,
01-12-2007, 12:14 PM
I appreciate the information Slyder! I'll surely do some additional reading. Realizing that insuranc doesn't cover much, I've got a lot of bloodwork to get done before I finalze my therapy though. Thanks again.....very much appreciated!
01-12-2007, 07:07 PM
Injection went just fine today one day late (but what the hell). These are easier and easier now. I get the wife to do my glutes since I have a tough time reaching around.
ED still persists and libido isn't where it should be for someone on 100mg Test C per week. Kinda tough to explain. It as if I can be talked into sex, like. yeah, I could do that! But to be actually horny? Not yet. I'm going to try some DIM pmgamer recommended.
In the meantime, the paperwork is AFU between my PCP and my Urologist. This doesn't surprise me in the least. Why make anything easy, right? I need to get this straightened out so I can get my bloodwork done. So Tues, I will go see my PCP personally and take care of this mess.
The situation is starting to grow desperate. I'm sick and tired of this. On a good note, the test has me feeling good, much like my old self, except for the ED of course.
01-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Thanks for sharing.Originally Posted by Slyder1
It would help if you could post complete list of what tests you get, also the ranges that they want you to stay at.
Any other details.
01-13-2007, 09:20 AM
The blood tests are very comprehensive and include every test imaginable including liver state. Depending on what you are prescribed, your test will vary. And by the way, they send the girl to my office to draw the blood, I don't have to visit the Docs office that often.
Regarding the levels, again, that is depending on your current state and your age and such. My levels are in the middle high which is optimal for the functions I mentioned prior. I hesitate to write numbers down as they are specific to the client.
I would suggest that you click on the link for the GQ article and read it, it is very informative.
NXTbook flash detection page
01-19-2007, 07:43 PM
Since starting on HRT, I have noticed my joints are sore as hell when I'm done lifting. They seem to hurt almost all the time, even though I am on glucosamine. I've also noticed I feel "hot" all the time. ED is still persistent and no morning wood. Injections remain at 100mg Test C every week. I started on DIM once a day as I have a lot of symptoms of high E2 levels.
Unfortunately I cannot afford to see Dr. John just yet, so I'll have to deal with this for awhile. Next appointment I have with my Dr I'll request a host of blood tests for reference. This will be my first priority. Till then......I remain positive.
01-19-2007, 10:04 PM
Habe you tried "alternative" methods? Seriously, you might want to check out Raike http://reikiwellnesscenter.org/page2.html or Accupuncture, Acupuncture.Com - Gateway to Chinese Medicine, Health and Wellness. I have used it in the past, and my brother who was really messed up in the war swears by it for his physical ailments. I wish you the best.
01-19-2007, 10:05 PM
Have you tried "alternative" methods? Seriously, you might want to check out Raike http://reikiwellnesscenter.org/page2.html or Accupuncture, Acupuncture.Com - Gateway to Chinese Medicine, Health and Wellness. I have used it in the past, and my brother who was really messed up in the war swears by it for his physical ailments. I wish you the best.
01-20-2007, 05:58 PM
Slyder....I really do appreciate the advice. My insurance problem is conpounded by the fact that I am retired military. Everything I do, or desire to be seen for must go through my military physican first. Obviously it is much more complicated, but you get the jest of it.
A lot of really great people here (including yourself) have offered help, and I have it all listed. Once I can get the mountains of paperwork completed, and my PCP approval, I plan on addressing these issues with a qualified professional.
01-21-2007, 06:35 PM
A little OT, sorry,
I would really like to see a doctor truely knowledgable close to where I live, I have been googling for a half hour and I cant find your doc:
Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ
Can you provide anymore info? Address, phone, etc?
(I dont think this is against the board rules, as I want to find a new doctor, if it is I apologize, mods please delete then)
Any help would be appreciated.
Or any other doctors in NJ in the trt/hrt field who really know what they are doing would also be great.
01-21-2007, 06:43 PM
Doctor Silverman is found through Cenegenics itself, or you can call Dr. Rusty Silverman at 609-653-0099. Tell him that you got his info from the guy who was interviewed about his work in the Atlantic City Press, he will know me.
Hes great and he does not push it on you, just makes you aware. He also practices what he preaches.
Best of luck,
Slyder1 (SK of Philadelphia)
01-21-2007, 06:47 PM
Thanks so much Slyder1, I need to find someone who knows what they are doing. I will post a thread some time in the future, and probably ask for some of your advice.
01-21-2007, 07:40 PM
Let me know how you make out with Doc Rusty.
01-22-2007, 08:21 PM
At the suggestion of pmgamer, I tried some DIM from the Rite Care site he suggested. Figured I have almost 4 weeks till I can get back to my Dr so I'd like to see what effect if any it would have. Less than a week on it and my erect nipples have calmed down substantially. Erections have returned, and remain relatively strong, although duration is still a problem. For me, this is good news. At least I feel I'm headed in the right direction, even though the progress is slow.
I'll get off of it next week, in time for it to clear my system before blood tests are done.
01-22-2007, 08:49 PM
You might try some Cialis 20 mgs. take it every 72 hrs. until you get your mind off it believe me when you have had this problem the other head gets in the way. I do this take Cialis.
Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
01-23-2007, 08:07 PM
Yeah, been thinking that I may have to retrain myself again. Damn this shouldn't be this tough! But my Dr. gave me a sample pack of Cialis to try. First one was pretty good, second one nothing. I'm saving the last one for this weekend while I'm on the DIM. I'm hoping this combination works for me.Originally Posted by pmgamer18
01-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Cialis works dam good if you take it every 72 hrs with DIM your morning wood comes back and this is dam good health for the penis.Originally Posted by SoMdHunter
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