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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    The results are WOW! Maxes: Bench from 275x3 to 325x2. Squats from 225x2 to 335x2. Dead lifts from 300x2 to 450x1. Pull ups sets of 8-10 easy.
    I'm only 5'9" and lifting way heavier than guys at my gym over 6'.
    Isn't it amazing what it does to your attitude to add on that 4th plate+ to each side? Kind of walk a little taller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    Well my blast is basically over now. I was 500/5 weeks, 750/3 weeks. 750 was a waste, low sex drive, lethargic, bloat, etc. My TRT is 120/week but I'm so happy around 200/week. I can't get endo bloods if my T is too high so I was thinking maybe go about 10 days off before blood work? My end almost crapped when 120 had my T @545. He said that's PLENTY high... so a bit of a disconnect there between his opinion and mine
    My doc says "yeah you're high, but I'm ok with that number" when I'm around 1200 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    My doc says "yeah you're high, but I'm ok with that number" when I'm around 1200 lol
    Where's your doc? Might be worth the drive!
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    Just curious if you guys think you were near your natural max before taking the leap to up your test? Or was it just to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post

    I hear you, what day after the shot was at T @545?
    10 days from 750mg is cuting it close.
    Oh no, I will be at 200mg before the blood test. I'm really just dropping from about 200 to 120. 545ng T level was 4 days after a 120mg shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Just curious if you guys think you were near your natural max before taking the leap to up your test? Or was it just to do?
    Before trt I don't think I was at my max, just couldn't force myself to eat a buttload of food consistently. Naturally I might be able to put on around 15lbs of extra muscle, but it just wouldn't be worth the extra food needed to maintain in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    Before trt I don't think I was at my max, just couldn't force myself to eat a buttload of food consistently. Naturally I might be able to put on around 15lbs of extra muscle, but it just wouldn't be worth the extra food needed to maintain in my opinion.
    With TRT, same training but better and faster results. I definitely plateaued on all my lifts before TRT which is why I started with 2 PH cycles (never again btw)
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    With TRT, same training but better and faster results. I definitely plateaued on all my lifts before TRT which is why I started with 2 PH cycles (never again btw)
    What did the PH's do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    What did the PH's do?
    All that time for gains then losses
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    In in week 6 and to be honest, I thought it'd be seeing much more results by now. Perhaps my expectations were to high? I'm up a couple pounds, waste size is down about an inch, strength is up a bit, but nothing profound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    In in week 6 and to be honest, I thought it'd be seeing much more results by now. Perhaps my expectations were to high? I'm up a couple pounds, waste size is down about an inch, strength is up a bit, but nothing profound.
    No, sounds horrible
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    Doesn't sound right. You sure your diet and routine are supporting this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Doesn't sound right. You sure your diet and routine are supporting this?
    I know the training is on point. 4 days a week, push, pull, legs routine. Weight always increasing from workout to workout, intensity is kept high, reps between 6-12 depending on the exercise.

    I've been eating more than ever. I don't count calories, perhaps I should, but it's more than I normally eat to maintain my normal weight of around 185.
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    Also- I know the test is good...it's Pfizer brand!
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    geez bro, I'm not sure. Maybe add some creatine. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    geez bro, I'm not sure. Maybe add some creatine. LOL
    It's crazy man! May have to get on the cell-tech!!

    When I first started TRT over a year ago I made some great gains on just 100mg per week--maybe my body got all it would get from higher levels? No idea!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    In in week 6 and to be honest, I thought it'd be seeing much more results by now. Perhaps my expectations were to high? I'm up a couple pounds, waste size is down about an inch, strength is up a bit, but nothing profound.
    You gained weight and lost an inch off your waist? Sounds pretty good to me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    I know the training is on point. 4 days a week, push, pull, legs routine. Weight always increasing from workout to workout, intensity is kept high, reps between 6-12 depending on the exercise.

    I've been eating more than ever. I don't count calories, perhaps I should, but it's more than I normally eat to maintain my normal weight of around 185.
    What does your average daily meal plan look like? I would definitely start counting calories if you're not putting on much weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wontstop985 View Post
    You gained weight and lost an inch off your waist? Sounds pretty good to me...
    That's what happens with minor diet changes, not running 500mgs of test. Something else is going on, likely related to not eating enough.

    I agree with Lex that you probably want to start counting calories and your macros. I'm up 8-10lbs in the last 8 weeks on my bulk and no cycle.
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    Up about 2 pounds on my morning, in the buff, weigh in.
    There's no doubt that I look better than I have I the past..just thought weight would be a bit higher.
    I'm running 400mg though, not 500 like lex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Up about 2 pounds on my morning, in the buff, weigh in.
    There's no doubt that I look better than I have I the past..just thought weight would be a bit higher.
    I'm running 400mg though, not 500 like lex.
    I guess you could stress about lbs on the scale. But the only lbs I worry about are on the bar
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    Today pumps were so intense it was almost painful on a superset leg/back day.

    Also took PES enhanced, so I'm certain that aided in the pump factor.

    I looked back at my log and at my lowest during this six weeks I was about 179, but 187 today after my workout. Weight dropped about 6 pounds in the beginning, then up 8 pounds since I added in some more food.

    Lex asked about typically meal plan for the day...it would look something like this...

    Breakfast: 2 eggs with 2 pierces organic toast and honey w/ 60 gram protein shake

    Snack: Greek yogurt

    Lunch: 8oz lean meat with 2-3 cups brown rice, and maybe some fruit

    Afternoon: 50-60 gram protein shake with milk, banana, pb, honey (same for the one above)

    Dinner: 6-8 oz chicken or lean beef w/ some type of whole wheat carb source...often a casserole of some kind that my wife makes.

    Snack: peanut butter honey sandwich (or jelly) with 10-12oz milk.

    There may be some occasional binges on Girl Scout cookies or Hershey's chocolate thrown in there...
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    Not a lot of calories in that, but I personally wouldn't change anything. That looks like a really good diet and like 3fs mentioned, if your strength is going up, who cares about weight. You aren't losing and slowly gaining, so that's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Not a lot of calories in that, but I personally wouldn't change anything. That looks like a really good diet and like 3fs mentioned, if your strength is going up, who cares about weight. You aren't losing and slowly gaining, so that's good.
    I agree. I could bump it up to 500mg, but I don't mind slow, steady gains in strength and sine size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    I agree. I could bump it up to 500mg, but I don't mind slow, steady gains in strength and sine size.
    As you increase Test, so do you increase bloat and water retention (and weight)
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Oh no, I will be at 200mg before the blood test. I'm really just dropping from about 200 to 120. 545ng T level was 4 days after a 120mg shot
    Oh ok that's not bad then
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    Hey guys,

    Did any of you take anything besides Erase for E2 control? I have heard conflicting reports about Erase working. I've been on TRT for about a year, and when I go up even a little my E2 skyrockets, with libido loss and I get real moody. I dont have an AI prescribed because on my TRT dose it is under control. I've been really thinking about this but E2 sides me makes me think twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deerhunter View Post
    Hey guys,

    Did any of you take anything besides Erase for E2 control? I have heard conflicting reports about Erase working. I've been on TRT for about a year, and when I go up even a little my E2 skyrockets, with libido loss and I get real moody. I dont have an AI prescribed because on my TRT dose it is under control. I've been really thinking about this but E2 sides me makes me think twice.
    I'm just using Erase to help control e2 at 500mg/week
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    I'm just using Erase to help control e2 at 500mg/week
    How you feeling my friend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    How you feeling my friend?
    Feeling great now! The past few days until this morning I was having signs of high e2 (fatigue, depression, low sex drive, slightly sensitive nips), but that all went away after I started taking 2 erase again instead of 1 (morning and night). I've also started adding the Androgel 1.62 as of last night before bed, and as always it really helps bring my confidence and sex drive back. Kinda stopped gaining weight, might need to increase food intake a little more. Oh, and no more energy supplements until I'm finished with the blast (besides a little caffeine), they were causing my blood pressure to go way up, which never happened when using them before the blast. How is your blast going? I think I'll throw some dbol into my next blast whenever that might be, if I can find it.
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    Thanks. One more question, I currently use insulin needles in my shoulder twice a week, my TRT dose is 45mg Monday and Thurs. Are you using bigger needles in the glutes for the 400 and 500 mg? Can I still use my pins and delts for the increased dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deerhunter View Post
    Thanks. One more question, I currently use insulin needles in my shoulder twice a week, my TRT dose is 45mg Monday and Thurs. Are you using bigger needles in the glutes for the 400 and 500 mg? Can I still use my pins and delts for the increased dose?
    I use 25x5/8"for trt dose, and 23x1" for 500mg dose. I still have a little oil come out of the hole once in a while even when I pull the skin back to inject and let it slide back over the muscle when I pull out.

    When I first started trt, my doc had me using 20x1" needles haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    When I first started trt, my doc had me using 20x1" needles haha
    haha yup me too when I started, man I hated that. Now I use 26x3/8 in my delts. I can get 200mg in there, just not sure if thats ok to use my delts, I'm thinking quad would be better..
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    I just found this. I just started TRT two weeks ago. Following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    I just found this. I just started TRT two weeks ago. Following.
    Glad to have you man. Welcome to TRT, lol. How old are you? Why were you put on TRT? If you don't mine me asking.
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    I've been fortunate to not have any BP problems. There's a nurse at the school where I teach so I often have her take it.
    Blast I going pretty well. Not sure I'm doing the best job with managing e2, but I think it's okay. Really haven't had a libido.
    Up about 5-6lbs, but looking much fuller and a bit thinner in the waste.
    I was at the chiropractor today and he mentioned it looked like I'd put a lot of size on, especially on the back...can't complain about that.
    Had to take a couple days off due to some back pain, but hope to be back at it tomorrow.
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    I picked up a BP monitor from Walgreens for something like $35 on sale and it is digital. I like playing with it to see how BP fluctuates throughout the day and before/after meals.

    Lowest in the AM has been 121/67 and a 59 heart rate, which I am very happy with. Highest has been in the afternoon after a big steak burrito and it was 143/78 with an 81 heart rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    Glad to have you man. Welcome to TRT, lol. How old are you? Why were you put on TRT? If you don't mine me asking.
    Thanks for the welcome. I actually see it as a positive change.

    I'm 34 and I was put on TRT because of low test. My endo is pretty liberal and I had expressed interest in it so we decided to take the leap. I just injected my second time about 2 hours ago. I don't get why people say it takes weeks to feel test-c. I beg to differ, but that's a different conversation.

    This almost feels like a support group, hahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I picked up a BP monitor from Walgreens for something like $35 on sale and it is digital. I like playing with it to see how BP fluctuates throughout the day and before/after meals.

    Lowest in the AM has been 121/67 and a 59 heart rate, which I am very happy with. Highest has been in the afternoon after a big steak burrito and it was 143/78 with an 81 heart rate.
    I'd like to see the #'s immediately post exercise. Mine gets high, I can feel it. Tinnitus, light sensitivity, mild headache.
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    Whoa. Are you still running high numbers? That doesn't sound good at all.
  

  
 

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