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    I should also mention...I decided to switch from full body routines to a push, pull, legs routine.

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    How's the blast going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    How's the blast going?
    Good man. Seem to just now be putting on some mass. Weight has gone up a couple pounds this week. I can see a slight change in the mirror.
    No significant strength increases to report as of yet.
    Still using Erase as an AI. Was using 4 per day, but decreased to three as libido is not very present.
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    Awesome! Blast is going well over here too, putting on mass faster than I ever have (working out harder and eating more calories than I ever have too. I'm doing 250mg twice a week with no AI, and have no side effects so far. I have popped an Erase here and there, but it just makes my joints hurt. Sex drive is great, strength is starting to go up, mood is OUTSTANDING. My goal of 20-25lbs in 11 weeks is definitely going to be attainable. Tomorrow marks my second week, I'm excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Awesome! Blast is going well over here too, putting on mass faster than I ever have (working out harder and eating more calories than I ever have too. I'm doing 250mg twice a week with no AI, and have no side effects so far. I have popped an Erase here and there, but it just makes my joints hurt. Sex drive is great, strength is starting to go up, mood is OUTSTANDING. My goal of 20-25lbs in 11 weeks is definitely going to be attainable. Tomorrow marks my second week, I'm excited!
    Nice man. Have you gained many pounds yet?
    I know I'd have better gains if I cut back on the erase, but I'm too afraid of gyno!

    Saw somewhere else you mentioned shortness of breath. Is that still going on for you?
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    The shortness of breath happened in the beginning and it went away pretty quick, maybe my body just adjusting to the higher dose? I'm up 17lbs so far, not feeling bloated either. Looking forward to week # 4 since most say that's when it really kicks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    The shortness of breath happened in the beginning and it went away pretty quick, maybe my body just adjusting to the higher dose? I'm up 17lbs so far, not feeling bloated either. Looking forward to week # 4 since most say that's when it really kicks in.
    What!? 17 pounds? What the hell am I doing wrong? Lol. I'm not up much at all and I'm in week 5!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    What!? 17 pounds? What the hell am I doing wrong? Lol. I'm not up much at all and I'm in week 5!
    Are you getting enough calories, fats, and protein? I'm also using 100mg more than you per week, you might wanna bump it up to 250mg twice a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    Are you getting enough calories, fats, and protein? I'm also using 100mg more than you per week, you might wanna bump it up to 250mg twice a week.
    I don't have it to bump, or I certainly would! In have enough vials for the 12 weeks at 400mgs.
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    I'm currently on week 8 of my blast

    Wk 1-4 test 500mg/wk , dbol - 25mg day
    Wk 5-12 test 500mg/wk , var - 20mg/day

    My starting weight was 203. As of last Sunday it was 215. I was at 217 the week before, but than I had to add some stane @ 12.5mg eod. During weeks 4-6 I started to noticed that I was not getting my morning wood and I had weak erections. I got tested at week 7 and found out my e2 was 102. Good luck guys.. Keep the updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corvettels3 View Post
    I'm currently on week 8 of my blast

    Wk 1-4 test 500mg/wk , dbol - 25mg day
    Wk 5-12 test 500mg/wk , var - 20mg/day

    My starting weight was 203. As of last Sunday it was 215. I was at 217 the week before, but than I had to add some stane @ 12.5mg eod. During weeks 4-6 I started to noticed that I was not getting my morning wood and I had weak erections. I got tested at week 7 and found out my e2 was 102. Good luck guys.. Keep the updates.
    How do you like dbol? I've heard you get a big strength increase on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corvettels3 View Post
    I'm currently on week 8 of my blast

    Wk 1-4 test 500mg/wk , dbol - 25mg day
    Wk 5-12 test 500mg/wk , var - 20mg/day

    My starting weight was 203. As of last Sunday it was 215. I was at 217 the week before, but than I had to add some stane @ 12.5mg eod. During weeks 4-6 I started to noticed that I was not getting my morning wood and I had weak erections. I got tested at week 7 and found out my e2 was 102. Good luck guys.. Keep the updates.
    So high e2 can equal weak erections, but low will as well, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    So high e2 can equal weak erections, but low will as well, correct?
    Too low = no erections, Too high = weak erections
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    Too low = no erections, Too high = weak erections
    Wonder if I should go back to 4. Had more solid salutes in the morning on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    How do you like dbol? I've heard you get a big strength increase on it.
    My strength did go up. Could have been the dbol or extra test. What I do like about dbol is that it gives your that full thick feeling. I'm sure it's just extra water in the muscles, but hey it feels good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    So high e2 can equal weak erections, but low will as well, correct?
    Low e2 = erections forget about it.
    high = weak or hard for a few minutes then you're back to a noodle..

    I crashed my e2 last year and let me tell I would rather have high e2 than low. Anxiety, panic attacks out of nowhere, waking up in the middle of the night scared, no concentration. It's the same symptoms that a woman gets when they go through menopause. What sucks is that it takes a few weeks to recover.
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    ...which is exactly why I won't even consider a cycle. To not experience e2 issues and see so many that do, I won't mess with anything. Gains and maintenance will continue to come from hard work and diet. It doesn't come nearly as quick, but I can gain 10lbs of muscle on diet alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    ...which is exactly why I won't even consider a cycle. To not experience e2 issues and see so many that do, I won't mess with anything. Gains and maintenance will continue to come from hard work and diet. It doesn't come nearly as quick, but I can gain 10lbs of muscle on diet alone.
    I hear ya, I had a hell of a time trying to figure out e2 levels when I started trt last year. Now that I know what I'm doing, the feeling I have is phenomenal. I've always been natural, have been lifting for nearly 15 years with awesome results. Now that I'm on trt, the thought of not being natural anymore doesn't even bother me. I feel like I deserve even better results since I've put so much of my life into bodybuilding, I guess you could say this "blast" is like a gift I'm giving myself? Haha I'm having zero negative sides, using Erase here and there, and 500mg of test per week (around 9 weeks to go), and I'm feeling great. I used to have a pretty bad temper before trt, and it got worse when I couldn't regulate my e2. But now, even on 500mg you would almost have to pay me to get mad. It's a great feeling, to have no feelings of worry, anxiety, anger, sadness, just positive all the time. And you know what? I'm eating better, eating more, and lifting harder now than I ever have in my life. I've put in a lot of hard work, now it's time for a turbo boost.
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    Lex, have you checked your hemoglobin and hematocrit during your blast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    Lex, have you checked your hemoglobin and hematocrit during your blast?

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    Not yet, I'm waiting until week #5 to get tests

    This is what I plan on getting tested

    Total testosterone
    Free testosterone
    E2
    full CBC (which covers a lot)

    Anything else you guys think I should test? I'll probably donate blood a week after the blast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    I hear ya, I had a hell of a time trying to figure out e2 levels when I started trt last year. Now that I know what I'm doing, the feeling I have is phenomenal. I've always been natural, have been lifting for nearly 15 years with awesome results. Now that I'm on trt, the thought of not being natural anymore doesn't even bother me. I feel like I deserve even better results since I've put so much of my life into bodybuilding, I guess you could say this "blast" is like a gift I'm giving myself? Haha I'm having zero negative sides, using Erase here and there, and 500mg of test per week (around 9 weeks to go), and I'm feeling great. I used to have a pretty bad temper before trt, and it got worse when I couldn't regulate my e2. But now, even on 500mg you would almost have to pay me to get mad. It's a great feeling, to have no feelings of worry, anxiety, anger, sadness, just positive all the time. And you know what? I'm eating better, eating more, and lifting harder now than I ever have in my life. I've put in a lot of hard work, now it's time for a turbo boost.
    Awesome man, I hear that. Having been in the gym for over 20 years all natural with great results through nothing but hard work and now being on TRT for 2 years, I am still in awe at what I am accomplishing with the same gym work ethic and the extra "boost". At 38 I have taken down every PR I have ever had and there isn't a single person that can take me down in my BJJ training- which is a huge compliment mentally. Maybe at some point down the road, when I get used to feeling as good as I do, I might consider a little extra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corvettels3 View Post

    Low e2 = erections forget about it.
    high = weak or hard for a few minutes then you're back to a noodle..

    I crashed my e2 last year and let me tell I would rather have high e2 than low. Anxiety, panic attacks out of nowhere, waking up in the middle of the night scared, no concentration. It's the same symptoms that a woman gets when they go through menopause. What sucks is that it takes a few weeks to recover.
    Never had those kind of feelings. Just not all super horned up like I thought I might be. Of course, having two small children may affect that to some degree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle

    Not yet, I'm waiting until week #5 to get tests

    This is what I plan on getting tested

    Total testosterone
    Free testosterone
    E2
    full CBC (which covers a lot)

    Anything else you guys think I should test? I'll probably donate blood a week after the blast.
    E2 for the hell of it, liver enzymes, PSA, BUN and creatinine should about cover it. Plz post the labs, I'm really interested in the hgb and hct seeing how that's what I'm struggling with now.

    If hgb is too high, they won't let you donate, happened to me...

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    After the blast, should I just not use any test for a week to bring my levels back down before my endo tests my blood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    After the blast, should I just not use any test for a week to bring my levels back down before my endo tests my blood?
    I went for labs 10 days after my last shot of 250mg (200cyp/50prop) and my test number was 789. My free test was not tested. My RBC was 6.45, Hemoglobin 19.3, Hematocrit 55.2, and ALT 45. Everything else was normal. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Not yet, I'm waiting until week #5 to get tests

    This is what I plan on getting tested

    Total testosterone
    Free testosterone
    E2
    full CBC (which covers a lot)

    Anything else you guys think I should test? I'll probably donate blood a week after the blast.
    Yeah, blood pressure
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    Is it better to go from blast dose to TRT dose or is it better to go from blast, wait 1-2 weeks then go to TRT dose?
    I guess TRT right away will just take longer for Test levels to return to normal instead of waiting?
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    Haven't seen but maybe a 2lb increase at this point. However, I've leaved down quite a bit.
    Does that seem about right at 5 weeks in?
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    This thread has motivated me try a little extra. I am going bump it up from 100 ml to 350 and see how it goes. After ten weeks I will go back to 100 wait two weeks and get everything checked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigt405 View Post
    This thread has motivated me try a little extra. I am going bump it up from 100 ml to 350 and see how it goes. After ten weeks I will go back to 100 wait two weeks and get everything checked.
    ...and so it begins

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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Is it better to go from blast dose to TRT dose or is it better to go from blast, wait 1-2 weeks then go to TRT dose?
    I guess TRT right away will just take longer for Test levels to return to normal instead of waiting?
    Are you trying to bring the test down as quickly as you can?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post

    Are you trying to bring the test down as quickly as you can?
    I may need to for blood work in the end of May
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Haven't seen but maybe a 2lb increase at this point. However, I've leaved down quite a bit.
    Does that seem about right at 5 weeks in?
    Bump on this gents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    Bump on this gents?
    Are you lifting hard and eating hard? I would think you should see a minimum of 5lb increase on a 400mg/week dose. I'm up 15lbs at 500mg/week, and last night my strength shot up tremendously. Instead of 3 sets of 10 on lat pull down I was doing 3 sets of 30 with the same weight. The only reason I stopped was to make sure I didn't push too hard and injure myself. This morning I woke up and just felt super solid, and my grip strength is way up. I wanted to crush something as soon as I woke up lol I feel great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    I may need to for blood work in the end of May
    In that case stop it cold turkey for 2 weeks to lower levels then do your HRT dose.
    What dosage are you running for your blast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassille View Post

    In that case stop it cold turkey for 2 weeks to lower levels then do your HRT dose.
    What dosage are you running for your blast?
    Well my blast is basically over now. I was 500/5 weeks, 750/3 weeks. 750 was a waste, low sex drive, lethargic, bloat, etc. My TRT is 120/week but I'm so happy around 200/week. I can't get endo bloods if my T is too high so I was thinking maybe go about 10 days off before blood work? My end almost crapped when 120 had my T @545. He said that's PLENTY high... so a bit of a disconnect there between his opinion and mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    Well my blast is basically over now. I was 500/5 weeks, 750/3 weeks. 750 was a waste, low sex drive, lethargic, bloat, etc. My TRT is 120/week but I'm so happy around 200/week. I can't get endo bloods if my T is too high so I was thinking maybe go about 10 days off before blood work? My end almost crapped when 120 had my T @545. He said that's PLENTY high... so a bit of a disconnect there between his opinion and mine
    What are the results looking like threeFs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post

    What are the results looking like threeFs?
    The results are WOW! Maxes: Bench from 275x3 to 325x2. Squats from 225x2 to 335x2. Dead lifts from 300x2 to 450x1. Pull ups sets of 8-10 easy.
    I'm only 5'9" and lifting way heavier than guys at my gym over 6'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Well my blast is basically over now. I was 500/5 weeks, 750/3 weeks. 750 was a waste, low sex drive, lethargic, bloat, etc. My TRT is 120/week but I'm so happy around 200/week. I can't get endo bloods if my T is too high so I was thinking maybe go about 10 days off before blood work? My end almost crapped when 120 had my T @545. He said that's PLENTY high... so a bit of a disconnect there between his opinion and mine
    I hear you, what day after the shot was at T @545?
    10 days from 750mg is cuting it close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post

    The results are WOW! Maxes: Bench from 275x3 to 325x2. Squats from 225x2 to 335x2. Dead lifts from 300x2 to 450x1. Pull ups sets of 8-10 easy.
    I'm only 5'9" and lifting way heavier than guys at my gym over 6'.
    Nice man. Very nice. How many pounds did you gain?
  

  
 

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