test cyp IM with insulin syringe

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by sumradagnoth View Post
    terrible of me to revive a very old thread i know, but thought i could get some advice
    i did my first trt injection today... in the quad (vl) and used a 1/2" 29g bd insulin syringe. it took awhile to draw and inject and was 100% pain free. i dont mind the time waiting.. not a big deal.
    what did freak me out was after the injection was complete and i pulled the needle out (i pulled very quickly), the needle was bent about 45 degrees! no idea if it bent during the pull out or during the injection... nothing hurt, so i honestly have no clue what happened.
    is this common? happen to anyone else? any danger?
    I have been doing all of my injections sub q into the abdomen for the last couple of years. Just like an insulin shot. Blood work shows it's just as effective and the needle is less likely to bend.
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  2. doing smaller shots more frequently? 100mg (for me) all at once subq seems like alot
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by sumradagnoth View Post
    doing smaller shots more frequently? 100mg (for me) all at once subq seems like alot
    Yup, you could possibly get away with 50mg sub-q, but that would be max. 30mg is best.

  4. So are you guys using a 29g needle to load the syringe too? Or is there a quicker way to load the needle with an oil based medication.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    So are you guys using a 29g needle to load the syringe too? Or is there a quicker way to load the needle with an oil based medication.
    have seen how-to's on backfilling the syringe... but honestly, just stick the insulin syringe in the bottle and draw... it takes a minute but it works... just lay the bottle down or suspend it in a toothbrush holder and go get a drink or take a shower... come back, done.

    only issue is that it will blunt the needle a bit, which is noticeable when doing the IM injection... not so much for subq
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Yup, you could possibly get away with 50mg sub-q, but that would be max. 30mg is best.
    no issue with abscesses? oil not absorbing very quickly... so likely small lumps/nodules in your stomach for a few days?

  7. I seem to remember there reading about a concern at some point of backfilling being slightly less sterile. Is this not accurate?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    So are you guys using a 29g needle to load the syringe too? Or is there a quicker way to load the needle with an oil based medication.
    When I briefly did sub-q, I drew oil with a 20g needle like always, and injected with a 25g needle. I went back to pinning my quads with a 25g 5/8" needle though.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by sumradagnoth View Post

    no issue with abscesses? oil not absorbing very quickly... so likely small lumps/nodules in your stomach for a few days?
    Nope, nothing at all.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    I seem to remember there reading about a concern at some point of backfilling being slightly less sterile. Is this not accurate?
    I wouldn't do it, just my opinion though. Who knows what you're drawing into the syringe if you fill it with air? Floating bacteria? Fungal spores? It's probably unlikely, but you never know! I prefer to keep my test vials as sterile as possible.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    When I briefly did sub-q, I drew oil with a 20g needle like always, and injected with a 25g needle. I went back to pinning my quads with a 25g 5/8" needle though.
    why did you stop subq? curious

  12. Quote Originally Posted by sumradagnoth View Post

    why did you stop subq? curious
    Not enough body fat to do it comfortably. IM with a 5/8" 25g needle in my quads is still my favorite.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    Not enough body fat to do it comfortably. IM with a 5/8" 25g needle in my quads is still my favorite.
    5/8 is long enough for the quad?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post

    5/8 is long enough for the quad?
    It is when there is no fat

  15. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post

    It is when there is no fat
    You calling me Fat??? Lol

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post

    You calling me Fat??? Lol
    Haha no, it's just if you're really lean the needle can go into your abs, so really lean guys should just stick with IM injects. I do 20-30mg test enanthate eod, and it works great for me.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by lexmuscle View Post
    Haha no, it's just if you're really lean the needle can go into your abs, so really lean guys should just stick with IM injects. I do 20-30mg test enanthate eod, and it works great for me.
    how does the eod injects vs 1/week reflect in bloodwork numbers? same or did you see a change?

  18. Some say with more frequent administration with lower dosages they were able to eliminate the need to use an AI, or at least lower the dosage. Your blood levels should be more stable with the more frequent administration.

  19. I haven't had any tests done since I started eod injections, I'll check at the end of the month.

  20. there is no problem injecting 100mg with a insulin needle. just make sure your bottle is not 100mg/ml. with the 200mg/ml you are only injecting a 1/2 cc..

  21. question to dragonrider, or whoever else is/has done the more frequent subq T injections for TRT... are you using HCG as well? how/when are you dosing it?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by sumradagnoth View Post
    question to dragonrider, or whoever else is/has done the more frequent subq T injections for TRT... are you using HCG as well? how/when are you dosing it?
    Nope, never used HCG, and no AI.

    30mg of test Monday morning, Wednesday morning, and Friday night.
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