drugs for libido
- 12-06-2010, 07:39 AM
drugs for libido
My testosterone is 320 ng/dl. Free T 1.41% from Quest. I have serious ED so I am taking Arimidex and daily Cialis, and have been instructed by my doctor to take Viagra on demand. I have ordered some Dostinex and Proviron and plan on adding these to the mix.
I am 36 years old. I have started to run three miles a day and working out. I have pretty much quit drinking and I don't smoke. It would be great to find a doctor who could identify my problem with the right tests but I have lost faith in doctors. I just wanted to run this by the wise members of this forum to make sure there are no known negative interactions between these drugs.
- 12-06-2010, 10:35 AM
- 12-06-2010, 10:41 AM
WTF, the problem is your T level is 320. When my T level is that low I can't get it up either! When my T level is normal I can **** all night! You can go around popping all these expensive blue pills but you'll still be exhausted from low T.
12-06-2010, 11:22 AM
12-06-2010, 11:05 PM
I am taking 1 mg of Arimidex twice a week. I just started a couple of weeks ago and I feel great. I have more energy than I normally have and I am much more relaxed and have a since of well being and confidence. I haven't noticed a change in libido , although I haven't been with a girl since starting. I might cut this in half and supplement it with half a dose of Proviron, since a lot of people claim a rise in libido with Proviron and I think it is also an estrogen blocker.
Are there ways to get my Testosterone up without T therapy?
12-07-2010, 09:41 AM
At where your level is, a combination of testopro plus any DAA product should make a noticeable difference
12-11-2010, 09:03 PM
Good idea with the cardio, it will improve your ED issues. The more you can run, the better.
Try to cut out simple sugars too. Stick to low GI foods.
12-12-2010, 01:22 PM
01-16-2011, 10:21 PM
The Proviron and Cabergolene did not work. I also tried tribulus and maca. I am still working out and running every day and hardly drink that much anymore. I don't know what else I can do.
I am going to see a endocrinologist next week which seems to be my last resort. Wish me luck.
01-17-2011, 08:44 PM
How old are you? Proviron is a DHT derivative, so it works well for those who need more DHT to fuction, but not so well if that isn't your problem. Was your cabaser liquid or tablets and how much did you take? Cabaser is good if your prolactin levels are elevated, but once again if that isn't your issue then it won't help.
Your test levels are low for some reason. A testosterone restart might fix you.
01-17-2011, 09:59 PM
01-20-2011, 01:11 PM
01-20-2011, 01:55 PM
01-20-2011, 02:19 PM
01-20-2011, 02:21 PM
Another good suggestion for people:
For increased sensitivity during sex/play, use a bit of shea butter on the tip (gland) everyday, and within a month it will have broken down excess tissue that forms from friction/use, restoring a lot of sensitivity
01-20-2011, 03:55 PM
01-20-2011, 04:27 PM
01-21-2011, 12:43 AM
As for libido, instead of taking a plethora of medications, you could always try a natural route. When I last took a DAA product, more specifically TCF-1, my libido was through the roof. At the time Clomid had actually negatively effected my libido (I am one of those sad few) but TCF-1 got it going right fairly quickly.
01-21-2011, 01:07 PM
To the OP, I use this combination daily. No effect for me, but effects for most people with healthier endocrine systems:
L-tyrosine, l-arginine, l-carnitine, pycnogenol, maca
When I was younger, I was on on bupropin for a year and a half. No effect. I tried one or two months of deprenyl at some point. No noticable effect. I don't tend to recommend those to people. They don't bring sex drives out of the graveyard. Certain people with relatively normal libidos experience a boost on them, though.
01-21-2011, 01:28 PM
Few things bring back the dead, of which I am aware. So if you are going to judge efficacy from this vantage point, we can't have a constructive discussion, Jamie.
I stick by what I said, and believe those meds help many more people than the amino ****tail and pycnogenol, an antioxidant that I've never head of in relation to increasing libido, that you list above.
Many people like Maca, like other supps providing test support. But this relatively mild stuff, by my assessment.
01-21-2011, 03:07 PM
Like HereToStudy mentioned, if you want to try a natural route:
L-arginine is commonly reccomended to help with erections, particularly in combination with pycnogenol. There's a study out there that demonstrates the efficacy of pycnogenol in relation to curing what the study defines as "ED." L-tyrosine with help assist in the creation of dopamine.
Further, cacao powder is alleged to contain xanthines (aside from caffiene) that reportedly excite sexual centers of the brain. Many "superfood" purveyors suggest a maca/cacao powder drink.
01-21-2011, 03:22 PM
jamie, you are an interesting cat.
01-21-2011, 03:41 PM
The idea is to take the drink early in the day. I'm very caffeine sensitive, so I don't use it myself. For example, more than a cup of a strong, fresh-brewed green tea will give me jitters and mild nausea.
I've had libido issues for my entire adult life, so I'm aware (and have likely tried) of pretty much everything that can be suggested to boost the sex drive.
If you believe the BS that Tim Ferriss spouts in his "The 4 Hour Body" book, hCG at a high dosage will "absolutely require.... require... you to ejaculate at least 3 times per day." That was his ultimate libido enhancer reccomendation. I don't stand by that, either, though.
01-21-2011, 03:52 PM
hCG (in secondary hypogonadic males) greatly increases DHT and E2. With E2 control, hCG is amazing for erections and libido...I found it only great when I started treating estrogen with Aromasin though. I personally use a somewhat higher than average hCG dose, along with some test-cream on the nutsack several times during the week, and sure enough I've gotta get it on twice per day. DHT and proper E2 balancing is KEY to both libido and erection quality, at a minimum.
01-21-2011, 03:52 PM
This thread has now gone way off topic. Let's bring it back, out of respect for the poster.
Proviron sounds sensible, to increase DHT, and likely more effective than the other other suggestions, though not without risks, as I am sure you know.
You may wish to look into Aromasin vs. Adex. Read some of my recent posts. It wont adversely effect libido, or at least is much less likely. And WAY better for lipids.
01-21-2011, 03:56 PM
01-21-2011, 04:03 PM
I dont know who was responsible for perpetuationg the notion that ADEX was the first stop for AI treatment for those on TRT. I know even Crisler pushed it. I assume it has a basis. But man, that stuff can tear up your lipid profile in a really insidious way.
01-21-2011, 04:21 PM
Yeah I know... definitely (about arimidex).
I think it was pushed because it has a mild effect on E2 so it's tough to overdo it. Problem is, it has diminishing returns on E2 when extra suppression is needed, and ends up crushing the lipids.
What I love so much about aromasin, is it is very quick acting, in either direction. So any small change in dosage is immediately noticeable, whether it's backing off the dose a bit or adding more. I love it's effects on free test too, positive effects on IGF-1 and lipids. More bang for your buck with this stuff. I want to find a Dr who prescribes it.
01-21-2011, 04:45 PM
I need to pickup some proviron to go along with the pound of maca I bought.
01-21-2011, 04:59 PM
I know a doctor that prescribes it, but it wont do you any good in the 5 Boroughs, buddy.
Easy, I have a kilo of maca you can have, LOL. I'm not kidding -- I think it's that much. Taste is fine in a shake -- like malt.
01-21-2011, 05:29 PM
01-22-2011, 09:19 PM
I am 36 years old. I can tell that my testosterone has risen because my energy level has increased and I have a lot of acne on my back and chest. I havnt had that problem since I was in my twenties. I am also bulking up (of course I am lifting weights 45 min. a day)
Thank you everyone for the responses. My appointment with the endo is on Tuesday. I hope he knows what to test for. I am hoping that there is something that is lowering my testosterone and raising my estrogen and this is the reason for my ED. The Arimidex has been great but I know that there is another problem.
01-23-2011, 02:50 AM
01-23-2011, 08:31 AM
I switched from Aromasin (10 mg tab - 3x/week) to Erase (one cap per day/every day).
My libido has gone down for sure.
Not sure if this is relevelant but I may switch back to Aromasin.
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01-23-2011, 08:58 AM
A simple daily 1 scoop of Toco 8 seemed to help with my libido. It was a nice accident to discover as I was using it to halt hair loss and help with cholesterol levels, wich it worked for both.
( at heart )
01-23-2011, 08:59 AM
01-23-2011, 09:41 AM
A lot of people confuse "libido" with ability to fire the rocket up when it's required.
Libido - has to do with brain issues involving sexual desire and drive. It's separate from erectile functions (though it definitely makes things much easier to have a high libido).
Most ED drugs address bloodflow - they make erections easier by vastly improving blood flow. I don't think these are bad meds and might one day be sold OTC. There's evidence that the increased blood flow benefits other areas of the body. Viagra was initially studied as a medication for heart disease patients when this really, really, really cool "side effect" "popped up" - pun intended.
There are plenty of guys with low T who can get erections.
ED is MORE complicated than T-Level. You have psyche issues involved, you have hormonal issues involved, and you have physical issues involved.
Now - having said all that - having screaming high T-Levels is like a hammer that overcomes most of the erectile issues. High T pretty much installs a sense of well being and alphaness that tends to eliminate any psyche issues about performance and libido. Also - in order to have higher T-Levels you pretty much need to be in shape - so the physical component of erectile function is addressed there. Last of course - the hormonal component is covered with the high-T.
01-23-2011, 10:21 AM
01-23-2011, 10:58 AM
But I guess it was morning - and being 16 ...
01-24-2011, 10:31 AM
Very high test for a long time can also = anorgasmia, or inability to orgasm easily, even if libido is high. Still unsure what causes this. I'm guessing prostate enlargement and/or dopamine receptor downregulation possibly as the main factors.
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