What to say to my endo?

jon671 · 10-10-2008, 09:47 PM

I have low test and some symptoms that go along with it. I was taking bromocriptine, but I stopped. I didn't like it and my prolactin wasn't that high. I have been exercising, dieting and taking vitamins. I feel better now, but I know my test is still low. I want to try clomid and see if it can raise my natural production. What should I tell my endo about it if he disagrees? I also want to ask him for a complete blood test for reference later in life. Could someone suggest a complete list. I want to check as much as possible. I see him in a week.

darkblue1 · 10-11-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jon671

I have low test and some symptoms that go along with it. I was taking bromocriptine, but I stopped. I didn't like it and my prolactin wasn't that high. I have been exercising, dieting and taking vitamins. I feel better now, but I know my test is still low. I want to try clomid and see if it can raise my natural production. What should I tell my endo about it if he disagrees? I also want to ask him for a complete blood test for reference later in life. Could someone suggest a complete list. I want to check as much as possible. I see him in a week.

Most of the Endos are not good if you want to have clomid to increase Test. They wont agree to give you Clomid.

Knowbull · 10-11-2008, 12:16 PM

If an over 50 guy went to an endo and presented that he just wanted to get back to 27 year old hormonol levels across the board, how would that Doctor likely respond? Any one with experience regarding that?

LeanGuy · 10-11-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by darkblue1

Most of the Endos are not good if you want to have clomid to increase Test. They wont agree to give you Clomid.

Might have better luck telling them you want it for fertility. That's usually what mainstream endos prescribe it for.

nattydisaster · 10-11-2008, 03:24 PM

How do you know you have low test? Have you gotten a blood test?

darkblue1 · 10-11-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeanGuy

Might have better luck telling them you want it for fertility. That's usually what mainstream endos prescribe it for.

I told the same thing to my endo, he refered me to reproductive endo. They asked me to go for sperm analysis (even though I had low LH). If they are not normal then they will proceed with next step

jon671 · 10-11-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nattydisaster

How do you know you have low test? Have you gotten a blood test?

Three consecutive tests within about five months. I was in range in all of the test just at the bottom of the range. My free test was okay though.

jon671 · 10-11-2008, 09:37 PM

Okay so I am just gonna ask for a complete blood work panel for reference later in life can someone please help me with a good list. I know most of the hormones to test, but what about blood cell counts, vitamins, minerals, prostate. I want to be thorough with it.

I mean I feel much better now I just worry about the cause of the low test and the effects on my health later on in life. I also worry about fertility. I mean I still have some of the symptoms, but in general I feel a little better. I think I am also gonna ask for a referral to a Urologist I think I should start getting other opinnions. I hope though that since my endo gave me bromo with only a slightly elevated prolactin level, maybe he will be open to the clomid thing if not then next.

Thanks Guys

nattydisaster · 10-12-2008, 12:24 PM

If you had 3 blood tests with low testosterone, you should be getting TRT. If your endo isn't giving it to you, you need to switch doctors.

jon671 · 10-13-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nattydisaster

If you had 3 blood tests with low testosterone, you should be getting TRT. If your endo isn't giving it to you, you need to switch doctors.

I would rather find the cause first.

JanSz · 10-14-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jon671

Okay so I am just gonna ask for a complete blood work panel for reference later in life can someone please help me with a good list. I know most of the hormones to test, but what about blood cell counts, vitamins, minerals, prostate. I want to be thorough with it.
I mean I feel much better now I just worry about the cause of the low test and the effects on my health later on in life. I also worry about fertility. I mean I still have some of the symptoms, but in general I feel a little better. I think I am also gonna ask for a referral to a Urologist I think I should start getting other opinnions. I hope though that since my endo gave me bromo with only a slightly elevated prolactin level, maybe he will be open to the clomid thing if not then next.

Thanks Guys

You may want to pick and choose from my list on post #44,
between blue lines.

Jan's BloodTest April13/2007

The whole list cost about $3500
With proper ICD-9 codes (mine are on the bottom) and insurance, my out of pocket cost is $6.

That is under the old president, new prospective president is bend on "helping" me. I am afraid.
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jon671 · 10-14-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JanSz

You may want to pick and choose from my list on post #44,
between blue lines.

Jan's BloodTest April13/2007

The whole list cost about $3500
With proper ICD-9 codes (mine are on the bottom) and insurance, my out of pocket cost is $6.

That is under the old president, new prospective president is bend on "helping" me. I am afraid.
.
.

I want to test all of that, but is the fact I have low test enough? I want
to have a base for later in life, but my endo keeps telling me nothing
is wrong. I know he is lying, because he keeps ordering retests as if
my levels are going to magically improve. This next visit may be my last one.

Knowbull · 10-14-2008, 09:41 PM

Yes they are normal according to medical standards for your age group. Docs are reluctant to jump on a test script, especially if they think you want it for bodybuilding. There is also the liability factor they keep in mind. The most he will probably prescribe is a test patch. There are other Docs that will prescribe other meds, you have to search them out and insurance is generally not accepted. Fortunately you have blood work that can be used if you see another Doc quickly. Insurance wont pay for you to blow up.

jon671 · 10-22-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Knowbull

Insurance wont pay for you to blow up.

Last thing on my mind my friend. Do I run high risk for things like osteoperosis, heart disease....? I want to have a few babies before.

shyguava · 10-29-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jon671

Last thing on my mind my friend. Do I run high risk for things like osteoperosis, heart disease....? I want to have a few babies before.

You need to change your forum pic. I cant look at your posts without seeing that pic and associating it with you and thinking you look smug and happy despite your situation.

jon671 · 10-30-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shyguava

You need to change your forum pic. I cant look at your posts without seeing that pic and associating it with you and thinking you look smug and happy despite your situation.

I don't need to do anything. I'm not here for sympathy. I am here to gain knowledge and hopefully improve my situation. Sounds to me like you feel threatened.

texastea · 10-30-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jon671

I don't need to do anything. I'm not here for sympathy. I am here to gain knowledge and hopefully improve my situation. Sounds to me like you feel threatened.

Isn't that a frame from American Psycho? That character was hardly happy. Great movie, though.