A more complete history of my tests levels
- 08-31-2008, 09:55 PM
A more complete history of my tests levels
Okay maybe I should have done this in the beginning. It all started about 6 months ago when I thought I was having a heart attack. I saw my doctor and he checked my blood pressure and did an ekg. Both were okay. He ordered a blood test.
Cholesterol 201 mg/dl <200 desirable
Triglycerides 69 mg/dl < 150
HDL Cholesterol 46 mg/dl < 40
Chol/Hdl ratio 4.4 ratio < 5.0 (noted as a problem)
Ldl Cholesterol 141 mg/dl <100optimal
T3, total 151 ng/dl 77-178
Free T4 1.0 ng/dl .60-1.70
Ultrasensitive TSH 1.15 uIU/ Ml .47-5.01
Glucose 89 mg/dl Fast: 70-99
Bun 16mg/dl 7-18
Creatinine 1.0 mg/dl .6-1.3
Sodium 138mEq/l 134-145
Potassium 4.3" " 3.6-5.2
Chloride 102"" 100-108
CO2 25"" 21-32
Calcium 9.4"" 8.5- 10.5
SGOT (AST) 17 IU/L 15-37
SGPT (ALT) 50"" 30-65
Alkaline Phosphate 62"" 50-136
Bilirubin, Total .02 gm/dl .00-1.00
Protein, Total 7.8"" 6.4-8.2
Albumin 4.5"" 3.4-5.0
Later I developed a gland under my left nipple and thought it was cancer,but it was gynecomastia. I saw a surgeon and he ordered this test.
Cortisol 14.8 ug/dl 6-28
Dhea 458 ng/dl 142-1410
Total testosterone 346ng/dl 190-1037
Estradiol 32pg/ml 20-75
Hepatic function profile
SGOT (AST) 21 IU/L 15-37
SGPT (ALT) 53 " " 30-65
ALKALINE phosphate 53" " 50-136
Bilirubin, total .3 mg/dl .00-1.00
Bilirubin, Direct .1 " " .00-.30
Protein Total 7.1 gm/dl 6.4-8.2
Albumin 4.2 gm/dl 3.4-5.0
Bilirubin, indirect .2mg/dl
I asked for a refferal to an endocrinologist and here are the test results.
FSH 5.7MIU/Ml 1.3-19.3
Lh 3.7MIU/Ml 1.2-8.6
Total testosterone 230ng/dl 190-1037
Free Testosterone 51.3 pg/ml 35-155
Prolactin 15.7ng/ml 2.6-13.1 (noted high)
SHBG 12nmol/l 7-49
% free testosteron 2.15% 1.5-2.2
Estradiol 55pg/ml <207
(changed method of testing)
Basic Metabolic Profile
Glucose 95mg/dL FAST:70-99
BUN 11mg/dL 7-18
Creatinine 1.0mg/dL 0.6-1.3
Sodium 139mEq/L 134-145
Potassium 4.1mEq/L 3.6-5.2
Chloride 104mEq/L 100-108
CO2 29mEq/L 23-31
Calcium 9.4mg/dL 8.5-10.5
So far my endo has said there is nothing wrong and ordered a retest. I am seeing him again tomorrow so hopefully good news on the tests or some form of treatment. Hopefully someone here can see something that might help me. And since all this started I quit smoking weed and cigarettes, alcohol, changed my diet, started exercising and lost 10 pounds. Thanks in advance and sorry it is so long.
- 09-07-2008, 05:31 AM
- 09-07-2008, 11:26 AM
09-07-2008, 08:55 PM
Thanks JanSz I will talk to my endo next visit. Do you notice anything else that sticks out to you in my blood work?
09-07-2008, 09:26 PM
01-09-2009, 07:05 AM
A couple months ago I retested and got these results not much different
Fsh 5.1 1.3-19.3
LH 5.7 1.2-8.6
TT 253 250-1100
%free test 1.87 1.5-2.2
free test 47.4 35-155
Prolactin 15.5 2.6-13.1 (second time out of range no mri endo says it is not a problem or else it would be elevated a lot more)
LH went up and test also, but very little. I have a more full panel in a month and a half. I was taking bromo,
but quit. I was dizzy sometimes and it didn't really feel like it was
helping. Endo is sticking to the fact that my free test is "in range".
To tell the truth I am sick of seeing doctors that all say the same thing
that nothing is wrong. I want to know the cause of my low test. It will be a while before I could afford to go see someone like Crisler.
I also worry about fertility. I have made my wife pregnant twice before one miscarriage and one abortion (mistake). Anyway it has been 5 months since we started trying and nothing yet. I mean if I was infertile wouldn't my fsh be elevated? Is testosterone always directly related to fertility? Is clomid then if it works HCG a viable option until I have kids and the money to make the trip out to crisler? If I lose enough weight and control prolactin is it enough?
I have floaters in my right eye and I have never taken anything except the bromo, low libido, fatigue, poor concentration, low sense of wellbeing.......Erections have gotten better though. Some days I struggle to get out of bed and I often wake up with a sore throat. Haven't done a sleep study yet. I am doing CKD diet now. I have lost about 20 pounds so far. I know it is effecting my levels as depression is more of an issue.
01-09-2009, 10:11 AM
my doctor also thought my testosterone total levels don't matter but never let them tell you that.. free test is important but at the least you want 400 total test, preferably 600 and ideally 800 or 800+
best bet would be dr. crisler indeed
do you have fatigue? if so it might be adrenal fatigue and this can help you up total levels (mine went up 176 points)
you can treat this with hydrocortisone and dhea, if no option to hydrocortisone you can try isocort
i read on meso board a guy who had no upgrade in test levels until he treated thyroid and then it went up also like 150 points.. so you really need to figure out ft4 and ft3
your old tsh looks good and t3 as well but they may have changed
how are your nuts? big and firm? it seems lh is being sent because it is a good level but not much testosterone is being made out of it.. clomid could be an option but if your testes are whack then you need testosterone replacement
the floaters may not be a good idea to combine with clomid for vision problems
for the prolactin something like bromo would be way to much, you can try vitex and b6 p5p form to lower it with lesser side effects
depression could mean low serotonin, you could try 5-htp before sleeping and get a good restful 8+ hours deep sleep every day and see if that improves and start with isocort
other than that a trip to a good doc would be preferable
01-09-2009, 11:05 AM
My nuts are normal size. I am concerned with fertility mainly. I mean isn't it a good thing that my LH and FSH are not elevated out of range regarding fertility. I am not concerned if I am primary or secondary I am mainly concerned with fertility right now.
I think it is a combination of different things. I am obese, I smoke marijuana (relapsed but quiting again), I am doing CKD, prolactin is out of range, and I have a varicocele. That is what I know right now without seeing someone that actually know what they are doing.
My test dropped 93 points in less than a year at 26 years old. WTF?
01-09-2009, 11:34 AM
01-09-2009, 12:07 PM
So far CKD is working I lost 20 pounds. My plan is to continue it for two more months and then do a healthier diet. Time is good, but
sometimes it gets to the point where I know I need treatment. We'll see though.
Last edited by jon671; 01-09-2009 at 12:10 PM. Reason: add something
01-09-2009, 01:23 PM
i do weed sometimes, but it is like two times a year when i visit a friend.. you know when it feels bad on your system better quit this
otoh, i know plenty of guys who smoked and still smoke it daily (40+ now) who have kids without problems
caffeine lowering is best, for every caffeine cup take two water and try to lower the usage
go through it slowly, i am sure it will improve, and find a better doc in time.. i also thought that quitting smoking would be major improvement, but these things take time
i believe clomid can be used for fertility but you can also try and research some herbal stuff, not sure about this.. i am trying to avoid getting my chick pregnant maybe in the near future i will be posting the same question though
01-09-2009, 09:17 PM
01-09-2009, 09:20 PM
If you are primary can you still have children?
Is there anything else that can be causing my low t?
Sleep apnea, obesity, aromatase, adrenal fatigue, thyroid....?????
01-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Yeah, so long as there is still function. Fertility drugs can be taken and a clinic can concentrate your swimmers and do an AI (this is the worst case scenario if you are still producing some swimmers).
Everything you mentioned can cause low T. Everything I've ever read told me that THC does not effect sex hormones though...but it is healthy to quit if you're not feeling good.
01-11-2009, 02:22 AM
01-11-2009, 08:39 PM
What about my DHEA? I read if you have low levels you are more at risk for a lot of things. Is mine too low?
Another question maybe it is stupid. When you supplement Dhea is that perscription or is it the one I see at the health store in pill form?
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