amazing results on clomid

[p0fell0w]

i've been taking clomid for around around 3 weeks.

before clomid 309
after clomid 965

and i'm still taking them until sept 3
no wonder i'm always horny around my g/f haha

[JanSz]

i've been taking clomid for around around 3 weeks.

before clomid 309
after clomid 965

and i'm still taking them until sept 3
no wonder i'm always horny around my g/f haha

So you know that your balls are working.
Now just transition to HCG.
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[corndog]

it totaly killed my libido, test levels stayed the same as when on test but so drive what so ever. why did you strt taking it

[p0fell0w]

So you know that your balls are working.
Now just transition to HCG.
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.

what do you mean transition to HCG? when i get off clomid will my body still produce enough testostrone.? and what is HCG?

[corndog]

ok i am guessing you are on clomid to restart your system, if so what caused your body to stop producing test? there is a chance your body wont restart and continue to make test without meds

1st question is why did you stop producing test on your own

[JanSz]

what do you mean transition to HCG? when i get off clomid will my body still produce enough testostrone.? and what is HCG?

Human chorionic gonadotropin HCG
Human chorionic gonadotropin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Novarel
Abraxis
Pregnyl
Hucog

Ovidrel (if you are rare case and allergic)

Always buy the smallest vial or ampoule that you are able.
Always reconstitute with diluetant provided.
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You cannot be on clomid for life, unless you want to go blind plus other sides.
You can be on HCG for life.
Other than increasing Testosterone, HCG at higher doses may increase your E2 excessively.
Depending on your reaction to HCG, you may need more HCG than you can tolerate.
You will then use as much as you can and add the missing Testosterone as a shots or gel/creme.

Tolerable HCG dose would be a dose that would not require you to use more than 2mg/week of Arimidex/Liquidex?Anastrozole.
You should end up on HCG(400-750iu) per shot per 2x/week schedule below, (it is 4 HCG shots/week).

You want to have DHT at the top range or only slightly more, say 150% of the top range would be a max.

If you need to raise DHT, use transdermal T.
If you do not need to raise DHT, use Tshots.
If you do not need T but need DHT, put little bit of transdermalT on your scrotum.

Your goal on estrodial, E2 is
E2-ultrasensitive(10-30), 15 usually best.
Personal E2 level can be found by tweaking, using nightly erection as a guide.
Do not check E2 while on clomid.

Your testosterone goal is FreeT~300
FreeT should not be assayed value.
Get TT, Albumin and SHBG and figure out your FreeT from chart or calculator post #41.
Use chart first, for sanity check. It is easy to mess up units on calculator.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...oodtest-2.html
Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator

Schedule, T+HCG or just HCG use post #68:
I prefer 2x/week
According to your schedule, you have days whe you can draw blood, plan your schedule with blood drawing in mind.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...oodtest-4.html

[table 1 3 0] 2x weekly T-shots, HCG two days before T shot
1 | Monday | 0 hrs | T-Shot 7AM | no blood draw ever
2 | Tuesday | 24+12=36 hrs | HCG 7PM | ok to draw before HCG shot
3 | Wednesday | 36+24=60 hrs | HCG 7PM | ok to draw before HCG if HCG was skipped the day before
4 | Thursday | 84 hrs | T-Shot 7PM | no blood draw ever
5 | Friday | | no shot | ok to draw after 7PM
6 | Saturday | 84+36=120hrs | HCG 7AM | ok to draw before HCG shot
7 | Sunday | 168-24=144 hrs | HCG 7AM | ok to draw before HCG if HCG was skipped the day before
[/table]

Note:
for people doing T shots on other days or hours considered on above tables,
remember that you are either on 7 or 3.5 day schedule,
7*24=168 hrs
3.5*24=84 hrs
Print the table, write your own days and hours over what I posted.

[p0fell0w]

i'm guessing it was probably a ****ty pct after prohormones that caused me to stop producing

[corndog]

supprised your dr. put you on clomid without allot of testing to see why or did you tell him about the ph u took

[p0fell0w]

supprised your dr. put you on clomid without allot of testing to see why or did you tell him about the ph u took

i told him everything..they did test after test..some chick did a mri on my piptuary gland my LH level came back low and he wanted to see if he can get that up and get me restarted with clomid.

[corndog]

GOTCHA, i would guess you should restart

[colkurtz_spf]

i told him everything..they did test after test..some chick did a mri on my piptuary gland my LH level came back low and he wanted to see if he can get that up and get me restarted with clomid.

Hopefully your HPTA reset. The best way to find out is to retest one month after you're off clomid. Make sure you draw the same time and weekday as your last. Get plenty of rest and start taking ZMA and fish oils. The most important number will be LH. Testosterone levels fluctuate.

[LeanGuy]

Nice response to clomid. Ask your doc if you can stay on for at least 8 weeks if possible... I was on 12.5mg ED.

I'm doing good 2 mos after stopping clomid... my test was <300, went up to 750, and is now hanging around 600+

I still have insomnia though, so mine might end up dropping again. I think this was what caused it to go low in the first place. Sleep is a b!tch... its the one health thing you have little or no control over. Unfortunately its very important.

[Omega Man]

Hey guys. Been on clomid since jul24 at 37mg for 1 week then 5 more weeks at 25mg. My first test results coincidentally came back at exactly 309 like p0fellow, had my test done again on friday and got my results back today.

Testosterone Serum, 1108 (ref range 241 - 827)

I will discontinue use today unless anybody thinks I should stay on longer and can convince why. Will stay off for 3-4 weeks and retest. I'm very happy thus far

[LeanGuy]

Testosterone Serum, 1108 (ref range 241 - 827)

Wow, nice. Mine was 750 at the peak. I hope it holds for you after quitting. Sometimes it takes a little longer or another cycle to keep going. Post your results at 1 mo and then 2 mos.

[p0fell0w]

awesome results omega.. i just had my testostorne ran again offically through the dr this time..last time i got the lab to run them while i was getting an STD test lol. anyways now my testostone is 994 and he wants me to stay on for 4 more months.. i'm going to start taking lean xtreme while i'm on clomid since i know its working great and so i can melt this mid section fat off my belly while my testostone is so high

[Omega Man]

Wow, nice. Mine was 750 at the peak. I hope it holds for you after quitting. Sometimes it takes a little longer or another cycle to keep going. Post your results at 1 mo and then 2 mos.

What do you mean another cycle?

That does sound like a good idea p0fellow. I'm sure my results on a diet (which I badly need) would be much better with my test this high. Hmm Maybe I'll just drop it down to 12.5 mg, and with half a bottle left I have enough at that dose to last a couple months. Is it safe so run clomid this long? I mean it's a small dose, clomid wont shut you down after a while or desensitize your leydig(?) cells will it?

[p0fell0w]

What do you mean another cycle?

That does sound like a good idea p0fellow. I'm sure my results on a diet (which I badly need) would be much better with my test this high. Hmm Maybe I'll just drop it down to 12.5 mg, and with half a bottle left I have enough at that dose to last a couple months. Is it safe so run clomid this long? I mean it's a small dose, clomid wont shut you down after a while or desensitize your leydig(?) cells will it?

naw clomid wont shut you down at all..and i'm pretty sure you arent desensitizing your cells. the only issue i brought up with my dr about being on it for 5-6 months is the issue with eye problems. but he assured me that everything would be fine

[LeanGuy]

What do you mean another cycle?

I've read some guys need to run it longer until your body gets used to producing on its own. If you stop and find your T dropping too much, you could do it again for a couple of months. I guess cycle is the wrong word

[Omega Man]

UPdate!

Been 6 weeks on 12.5 mg and had my blood test taken yesterday and my results are:

Testosterone Serum, 892 ng/dl (Ref range 241 - 827)

Now I'll go off the clomid for 3 or 4 weeks and have it retested.

[sarcazmo]

hi JanSz,

I posted this question in another thread about a week ago but have not received a response. You state in your TestE Dosage Chart that "in the study endogenous testosterone was blocked, testis were not producing T during study". Does this imply that if one's natural baseline TT is, say 350ng/Dl, then for any given x-y value on the table, one should add 350 to the TT value ( i.e, 200mg TE/wk = ( 1058 + 350 ); i.e. does the 212.23 value represent such a baseline measurement?

Cheers,

srczm


Get TT, Albumin and SHBG and figure out your FreeT from chart or calculator post #41.
Use chart first, for sanity check. It is easy to mess up units on calculator.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-...oodtest-2.html
Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator