hey guys,im pretty new to the whole PH thing,but looking into these,they look like there more for cutting rather then bulking,is this true?i plan on bulking like crazy and was wondering would be ok to also take a creatine drink and pre work drink while using either of these?the new size on max performce and jacked would be the ones i would be taking.if not what you you recommend to add to this to help me bulk?im looking in to the natadrol since its less stuff to take and added sexual help is pretty big in my book.thanks