My take on IGF-1

[r1ck]

Also having something like 30IU of liquid in the barrel makes it easy to divide in two halves for bilateral injection. If you are doing 5 units of liquid, how are you going to divide that in two?

You use 2 syringes? one for each side?

[Ubiquitous]

Still looking to start stuff you can't handle huh? :bruce1:

I like to add BW after the IGF-1 because that's what I'll be pushing out at the same time as the air bubble, leaving my precious IGF-1 inside the syringe.

Also having something like 30IU of liquid in the barrel makes it easy to divide in two halves for bilateral injection. If you are doing 5 units of liquid, how are you going to divide that in two?

I like having my IGF-1 spread quick and good throughout my muscle tissue, so of course having a larger amount of liquid helps with that.

You can continue to play tough, and I'll just grow more mkay?

It's on tough guy!

You make a concentration of 500mcg/ml. If you have to use ONE pin, then that's easy.. 8 units(40mcg)/2= 4 units(20mcg) a side.. easy peasy japanesey... I use two needles regardless, because I'm sterile like that. 4 units a slin pin... bingo, bango.. your mamma does the tango.

Slin pins are designed for near zero dead space, so whatever is left over is the volume in the actual 1/2" 29g pin. negligible.

You're a big smart french wussie, but you're a bro.. brobro..

[Grunt76]

You use 2 syringes? one for each side?

Nope, one for both...

[Grunt76]

It's on tough guy!

You make a concentration of 500mcg/ml. If you have to use ONE pin, then that's easy.. 8 units(40mcg)/2= 4 units(20mcg) a side.. easy peasy japanesey... I use two needles regardless, because I'm sterile like that. 4 units a slin pin... bingo, bango.. your mamma does the tango.

Slin pins are designed for near zero dead space, so whatever is left over is the volume in the actual 1/2" 29g pin. negligible.

You're a big smart french wussie, but you're a bro.. brobro..

LOL and here I thought I was in for a fight.

Actually it might be better this way...

[r1ck]

It's on tough guy!

You make a concentration of 500mcg/ml. If you have to use ONE pin, then that's easy.. 8 units(40mcg)/2= 4 units(20mcg) a side.. easy peasy japanesey... I use two needles regardless, because I'm sterile like that. 4 units a slin pin... bingo, bango.. your mamma does the tango.

Slin pins are designed for near zero dead space, so whatever is left over is the volume in the actual 1/2" 29g pin. negligible.

You're a big smart french wussie, but you're a bro.. brobro..

I find two needles better also, since I inject only 2 units each side

[Thunder1]

loading BW or NACL is for wussies.. you don't need it.

AA straight up is fine. There's no necrosis after 7mg diluted at 500mcg/ml for me.

That's right, all of you who load BW or NACL into your pin are wussies, and I'm calling you all out... even my man Thunder and my boytoy Grunt.

Ok brother you started it.:bb:

[skull]

I just got finish reading an article that claims it a bad idea to use t3 with igf--its says that the t3 would destroy the newly formed cells from the igf--now Im not sure if its igf there talking about or the lr3 igf --I was wondering if the antibinding protiens in the lr3 would protect it from the t3--what Im trying to do is cut some bodyfat and do some spot muscle growth with the lr3 [BIs/shoulders/ lats] Im already taking a mild anabolic[25mg anavar] to counter the t3 and try to direct to bodyfat instead of muscle loss --do I got it all wrong or what? would I be better using ephedra instead?

[Grunt76]

I just got finish reading an article that claims it a bad idea to use t3 with igf--its says that the t3 would destroy the newly formed cells from the igf--now Im not sure if its igf there talking about or the lr3 igf --I was wondering if the antibinding protiens in the lr3 would protect it from the t3--what Im trying to do is cut some bodyfat and do some spot muscle growth with the lr3 [BIs/shoulders/ lats] Im already taking a mild anabolic[25mg anavar] to counter the t3 and try to direct to bodyfat instead of muscle loss --do I got it all wrong or what? would I be better using ephedra instead?

I feel that that idea about T3 & IGF-1 isn't unwarranted. I wouldn't go so far as saying that for sure that T3 will kill the new baby cells, but there is some evidence that it can do so. The higher the dose, the more likely that effect, of course. It goes for the Long R3 as well as the hIGF-1.

Yes you may run ephedrin or clen or albuterol or any bunch of fatburners with IGF-1 with good results.

[r1ck]

do any people do anabolic with igf?
like m1t with igf at the same time
or test e with igf?

are resultats better?

[skull]

I feel that that idea about T3 & IGF-1 isn't unwarranted. I wouldn't go so far as saying that for sure that T3 will kill the new baby cells, but there is some evidence that it can do so. The higher the dose, the more likely that effect, of course. It goes for the Long R3 as well as the hIGF-1.

Yes you may run ephedrin or clen or albuterol or any bunch of fatburners with IGF-1 with good results.

what would you consider a high dose --so I guess the resistance to binding protiens of the LR3 offer no protection from t3

[Grunt76]

what would you consider a high dose --so I guess the resistance to binding protiens of the LR3 offer no protection from t3

No, because T3 tends to destroy what IGF-1 has created, it does not directly attack the IGF-1 molecule.

do any people do anabolic with igf?
like m1t with igf at the same time
or test e with igf?

are resultats better?

Yep all the time and the results are just about spectacular. Imagine doing a bulking cycle. I mean, an ALL-OUT bulk. You eat everything in sight. You're going to blow up, gain lots and lots of muscle provided you do things right. And you will also gain some fat. Now picture that same bulking cycle, except you put on MORE muscle, and LOSE fat at the same time. That's what IGF-1 can do for you.

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[CRUNCH]

I'm doing 200mcgs of T4 every morning, plus IGF (40 mcgs 3x's/wk and GH (10 iu's 3x's/wk), and some test.

Should I lower the T4 or go off completely if it's hurting the IGF results??

[skull]

I'm doing 200mcgs of T4 every morning, plus IGF (40 mcgs 3x's/wk and GH (10 iu's 3x's/wk), and some test.

Should I lower the T4 or go off completely if it's hurting the IGF results??

yea they recomend you take t4 with GH or INSULIN but they dont recomend you take t3 with any of them --go figure?--any idea what dose of t3 would be ok?

[CRUNCH]

yea they recomend you take t4 with GH or INSULIN but they dont recomend you take t3 with any of them --go figure?--any idea what dose of t3 would be ok?

T4 but not T3...that is weird.

Not sure of the T3 dose, no experience with it.

[Grunt76]

I'm doing 200mcgs of T4 every morning, plus IGF (40 mcgs 3x's/wk and GH (10 iu's 3x's/wk), and some test.

Should I lower the T4 or go off completely if it's hurting the IGF results??

200 mcg's of T4 is a small dose. More than likely you are OK bro.

I am using 300mgc's of T4 and 25mcg's of T3 and my pegylated MGF is blowing me up all the same...

[CRUNCH]

Excellent...thanks Grunt!

[skull]

so I been checkin around [other sites ] and seems that 50-75mcg of t3 is the magic number when using IGF-1LR3 as long as an anabolic is being used.One guy even uses 150mcg if you can believe that. Anavar is a good choice because it raises ATP levels and t3 uses up your ATP to create heat .Also theres some confusion if the t3 will actualy go to the site where you injected the IGF and destroy it.When they talk about t3 eating muscle its mostly got to do with a systemic effect not local.

[Ubiquitous]

Interesting.. sh*t 25mcg on cycle is good enough for me regardless.

LR3IGF-1 leans me out anyways, why go overkill with T3? Some people just go bucknutty on the doses with everything.

[Grunt76]

Interesting.. sh*t 25mcg on cycle is good enough for me regardless.

LR3IGF-1 leans me out anyways, why go overkill with T3? Some people just go bucknutty on the doses with everything.

Bumping this absolute truth!