I dropPed my igf on floor. Saw bubbles in it afterwards and never felt anything from it afterwards pump wise or another effects....
Well, I was under the impression that IGF was unstable in powder form, but when reconstituted and stored it was perfectly stable. I was also under the impression that it should be in cake form to be considered quality stuff. Anyways, I too dropped my IGF on the floor, however I wasn't so lucky as you. My vial shattered and I lost at that point about $50 of IGF-1 LR3 to the garage floor. Sucked. And my IGF-1 was the most expensive quality out there, too. It really hurt my heart.
Hey FP Pm me I got a question about the igf quality
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US endos seem very knowledgable as far as diabetes and certain other common US conditions, but seem amazingly ignorant about optimization of xy axis and even thyroid panel. If in range, good enough for them no matter symptoms mentality seems to be the norm.
Here they slap useless bone stimulators on you to heal fractures and maybe forteo if you are a pro athlete and have the money, yet in Eastern Europe GH may be used to heal fractures. Seriously, the fact that some of our orthopods here would even order a bone stimulator for healing makes one ask how much power the medical device industry has and how much doctors are profiting from such use. These are probably same doctors who will tell you GH doesn't heal bones or joints. Why because some hot looking medical device rep (salesperson) with a BA in communications bought the office breakfast and told them so. So who do you want to listen to?
I do agree GH can be dangerous and unless monitored closely by an endo actually trained and knowledgeable in this area, the risk of harm may outweigh the benefit. Also, thebig variable is if you are not getting it directly from a real and reputable pharmacy, no telling whatyou are getting. I saw some thing about Ukraine. Haha, my wife is Russian and I have spent time in Ukraine's major cities and I would be leary if taking anything coming from a pharmacy in Ukraine that is designed for common person over there. Health care over there is very substandard unless you are very wealthy or an athlete.
i noticed boosts in strength concentration and endurance on lr3. probably because it mimics growth factors in the brain and cardiovascular systems also. mainly neurotrophins and fibroblast growth factors. it seems from experience growth factors have very many potential uses
growth factors and peptides can be used to enhance any cells in the body.
I plan on using igf after my twelve week cycle for pct and to create new muscle cells. However I don't plan on ed injections. I honestly plan on e3d injections @40mcg for 3 weeks. My question is will I still get a jump start in my gonads using it e3d. I know that there are other options for pct but I do want the added muscle cells for my lagging muscles. Thank you guys very much.
I plan on using igf for pct. I know that there are other options but I also want the newly added muscle cells. I am however wondering if igf1 will jumpstart my gonads if I did e3d injections at 40/mcg for 3 weeks. Any input would be greatly appreciated especially if you have done what I am doing. Thank you very much.
uhh who said anything about injecting into my nuts??? If it came across that way that is definitely not what I intend on doing. In fact I cringe at the thought. Maybe I worded this wrong. I want to cause hyperplasia. But I want to know if these dosages are sufficient in making my nuts product testosterone. Thank you very much
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That is very interesting considering all the threads(including this one), posts, sites, and scientific research on the subject. No offense sir but why do you say
myostatin inhibition in the natal and perhaps neonatal animal OTOH results in hyperplasia well above that seen in normal animals
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dang, i should of been born 30 years later.
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Well Mr. Arnold I know who you are now. I got a bad rep because I didn't know who you were when I asked the question lol. Guess I'll google everyone first before I reply. Well I have been looking up loads of information on IGF and found tons of studies claiming hyperplasia but in rodents. Not a biology major so don't know how different cell structures are between rats and men. However, there are tons of claims that state igf1 cause hyperplasia in humans. If this is not the case how is it that the body builders of today are ridiculously bigger than in Arnold s time? I assumed it was because they have genetically altered themselves using peptides. If this is not the case what makes them break through these genetic barriers?