My take on IGF-1
- 10-12-2006, 07:04 PM
- 10-12-2006, 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by logan22
Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
10-13-2006, 10:31 PM
Grunt say you work a midnight shift & train right before you go to bed in the morning. What would your pwo shake / meal consist of seeing you need carbs?
10-14-2006, 12:50 AM
That would be the most difficult question of all.Originally Posted by Thunder1
Whey, sugar, some peanut butter and fiber to slow absorption, and some oats or other slow-absorbing carbs. A couple bananas or some fructose to reload the liver, which will release glucose throughout the night as the glycaemia drops.
Bear in mind, there is no perfect answer to that situation.
10-14-2006, 12:57 AM
Grunt, you still pimping silver?
have you looked at AlmostPro's GH/Slin/IGF protocol? I think FullyBuilt posted it here recently. E3D with Lr3 seems to fit nicely in that regimen.
10-14-2006, 01:09 AM
Yeh bro, AP and I regularly chat about them peptide thangz.Originally Posted by Ubiquitous
I have kept the same address, it is still at
Did you like the watery stuff?
10-14-2006, 01:15 AM
I'm trying it now, sans GH.
I haven't made a dent in the first bottles bro.. but yeah I use it when I'm coming down with something and booyah, bingo bango, au revoir.
10-14-2006, 02:26 AM
Grunt would you kindly address these statements I received from a person in an email. I told them I would get your feedback and NO I am not joking, someone actually said this:
. . . in any case IGF comes in a powder tablet and has to be mixed with bacterial static water before use.
I am very experienced in this area and have never seen IGF1 LR3 or IGF 1for that matter in any other form than a powder tablet. I thought I would give you the heads up. thanks
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10-14-2006, 03:55 AM
10-14-2006, 02:31 PM
That is WEIRD. What kind of "tablet" weighs 1mg? I mean, that "tablet" must be about the size of a grain of salt....!? Unless he's getting it many MG's at a time? Maybe he has hIGF-1 and not Long R3 IGF-1? I am confused, I have never seen any IGF-1 TABLETS.... WTF? Never heard about it either. Maybe straight from the manufacturer before it is split into individual mg's? I am lost here.Originally Posted by CROWLER
This would only happen at extremely high doses. Same with extreme-dose hGH.Originally Posted by sandusky
10-15-2006, 02:02 AM
Chinese generic igf looks like a white disc in a vial, almost like a tablet. Its definetly over 1mg mass but maybe there are fillers? I always wondered why no one mentioned this or asked questions about itOriginally Posted by Grunt76
10-15-2006, 02:20 PM
It only seems to look like a tablet because of what lyophilization does to the IGF-1. It's 1mg.Originally Posted by justreading
10-15-2006, 02:56 PM
10-15-2006, 04:10 PM
This is wrong, Grunt. You were right the first time. Stop getting confused.Originally Posted by Grunt76
10-15-2006, 04:10 PM
10-20-2006, 12:14 AM
Buying 1MG of LR3-IGF (Lyophilized)
Doing 40mcg E3D, this would last 8 weeks aprox?
Would it be a waste of money? or fatloss/gains would be ok?
10-20-2006, 01:43 AM
For sides/results, I feel you will be hard pressed to find a better deal.Originally Posted by r1ck
Your MG should last you 75 days, a bit more than 10 weeks.
10-20-2006, 02:21 AM
Nice thread Grunt, lots of good info.
I'm currently doing 3x a week @ 40mcg or 50mcg on leg days.
Didn't know you could stay on all year long dosing this way. But since I do now, that's what I'll do!
10-20-2006, 10:54 AM
10-20-2006, 02:05 PM
Cool, please give some feedback later on, OK? These protocols are fairly new and it will be good to have some ability to assess how well they do over the longer term.Originally Posted by Jaxxx
10-22-2006, 12:50 AM
Will do, already have 4mg in hand, so at my current dosing I'll be good to go for 30 weeks.Originally Posted by Grunt76
10-22-2006, 01:35 AM
7 mgs will last me 525 days at E3D
I'm actually just starting a Monday, Wednesday, Friday rotation with it as I'm combining it with another little helper. It should last longer this way actually. I'll let you know as I ascertain results. I can compare to my past ED protocols, I've ran 7mgs that way as well. 25 on, 25 off.
10-22-2006, 01:40 AM
10-22-2006, 01:44 AM
in theory you can run E3D protocols indefinitely. This very thread is trying to find out what is best. The other standard protocol is 25 days on, 25 off, using up 1mg in 25 days with 40mcg split bilaterally/day.
10-22-2006, 10:42 AM
oh ok, I was wondering, since i workout every 2 days, mabye I should try 30mcg post-workout E2D
monday chest/shoulders/tris - inject tris
wed legs - inject quads
friday - back/bicep - inject bicep
sunday - chest/shoulders/tricep = inject shoulders
total 120mcg for 7 days
very similar to 40mcg E3D
monday - inject
thur - inject
dimanche - inject
total - 120mcg for 7 days
what do u think grunt? or others
10-22-2006, 02:41 PM
Yes that also looks good. Depending on your LBM this might be run indefinitely or you may get slowly diminishing results.Originally Posted by r1ck
How long postworkout are you planning on pinning?
10-22-2006, 02:54 PM
I started training 3 years ago at 128 lbs with 20% bf,Originally Posted by Grunt76
had only 100lbm
Today im 165lbs 12% bf 145 lbm with natural diet/training
I did try a tbol only cycle and stop it after 2 weeks, because I was getting joint pains and hair lines wow
gained around 40lbs of muscle, I have small bones(wrist,ankles), hard to put more, igf1 is my option to try to get to 10% bf and gain mabye a couple of lbm to shape up.
I have 1mg of igf-1, not sure if eod(30mcg) or e3d(40mcg) would be better without any gut increase. I train every 2 days. I might change my workout routine to accommodate e3d igf1.
what do you think, Thanks
p.s. im 24 years old, 25 next summer
10-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Yes those dosages both look good. No need to go higher than that for sure.Originally Posted by r1ck
10-22-2006, 05:00 PM
thanks masterOriginally Posted by Grunt76
I did a search and couldnt find the answer
If I have puffy nips (little gyno) from puberty since im 12 years old
the days ill inject igf1lr3 in my pecs will it aggravate my puffy nips? wondering
10-22-2006, 06:50 PM
No, unless your estrogen is really high to begin with, and that's another matter entirely for sure.Originally Posted by r1ck
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