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Old 09-27-2006, 01:20 PM   #31
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So the igf-1 is more effective than the lr3 version?
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:46 PM   #32
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So the igf-1 is more effective than the lr3 version?
This whole thread is about Long R3 IGF-1. And no, hIGF-1 isn't more effective.
 
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:03 PM   #33
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Thanks, Ive been using igf-1lr3 for some time now. EOD 25-40mcg with good results. I deffinitly notice that pee has a strange odor during my usage. Have you heard anything like this before?
 
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:53 AM   #34
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Thanks, Ive been using igf-1lr3 for some time now. EOD 25-40mcg with good results. I deffinitly notice that pee has a strange odor during my usage. Have you heard anything like this before?
No. You are probably not human.

J/K. But I haven't heard of anything like that before...
 
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:13 AM   #35
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preston25, if your carbs are low you may be in ketosis...happened to me first week.
 
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preston25, if your carbs are low you may be in ketosis...happened to me first week.
Extremely smart reply, I say. Reps to you man.
 
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Note: I use "Hyperplasia" in the above posts, knowing it isn't the exact word for growth of new myoblasts. Close enough I guess.
how about "myoplasia"?
 
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this might be a huge wastse of money---but if you are willing --would it have any value as a TD?--also Im starting to think the pgf2a I bought wont work?
 



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this might be a huge wastse of money---but if you are willing --would it have any value as a TD?--also Im starting to think the pgf2a I bought wont work?
I don't think there would be any way to make this work as a transdermal.

What's your pgf2a not doing? How are you using it?
 
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I don't think there would be any way to make this work as a transdermal.

What's your pgf2a not doing? How are you using it?
well its on its way but its supposed to be the only prod around that you can use as a TD to kill fat cells[ not just shrink]closesed thing to lipo and its also similar to igf as inject [site spec muscle growth]
 



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well its on its way but its supposed to be the only prod around that you can use as a TD to kill fat cells[ not just shrink]closesed thing to lipo and its also similar to igf as inject [site spec muscle growth]
It is readily absorbed through the skin, so you should be fine.
 
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It is readily absorbed through the skin, so you should be fine.
one thing that didnt make sense--they say its got good potential as a TD fat burner---but not so good as TD spot [site spec]muscle builder---now if I put it on an area that has thin skin[no fat] like biceps--why would it not work?
 



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hey grunt you seem very knowlegable about this [pgf2a] and [igf-1]how do they compare ,I know they can be stacked--any personal ex?
 



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hey grunt you seem very knowlegable about this [pgf2a] and [igf-1]how do they compare ,I know they can be stacked--any personal ex?
No I have yet to try pgf2a on myself. I will report when I do.
 
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I cannot confirm this, although I agree there is no evidence of any heart-enlarging effects. For example, Long R3 IGF-1 is used for kids with deficiencies and no heart size monitoring is ever done. Pubmed is at your disposal if you want to look into that aspect of it. I concentrated my studies on enhancing the local effect and lessening the systemic.

Virgin Cycle.... HGH alone? Igf-Lr3 alone? Mgf alone? HGH/IGFlr3? IGF/MGF? HGH/MGF????
 
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Virgin Cycle.... HGH alone? Igf-Lr3 alone? Mgf alone? HGH/IGFlr3? IGF/MGF? HGH/MGF????
They are all low-side-effect options bro, any of these is good.

Some people will say that you should start with AAS (even the semi-legal ones) before the peptides, but I like peptides for a first-timer, because they are low on sides and their effects are more subtle.
 
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They are all low-side-effect options bro, any of these is good.

Some people will say that you should start with anabolic steroids (even the semi-legal ones) before the peptides, but I like peptides for a first-timer, because they are low on sides and their effects are more subtle.
My thoughts exactly. (Going to try lr3-igf1 as a first timer). Thanks for all the info Grunt!
 
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