My take on IGF-1
- 02-26-2007, 07:40 PM
grunt I really appreciate the info you have provided here and it has really helped me in regards to my IGF usage.
I was wondering if you recomend dosing the IGF differently in regards to injury recouperation? I just seperated my clavical from the chest plate yesterday(snowboarding not training) and have some tendon tearing as a result. We got it back in place today and the doctor gives me 6 weeks to slowly work my way back into training. He says IGF would usefull in my recovery, injected into the nearby muscle tissue. He is an athlete as well and is aware of what it is i'm doing.
In this type of situation would it make sense to do a 3 week cycle of 25-25mcg 2xtimes daily? or something similiar, or just stick with 40-50mcg EOD?
- 02-27-2007, 04:53 AM
Grunt must ask you ! are on igf-1 and peg-mgf now 50 mcg igf-1 receptor grade.
Peg-mgf 300 mcg/week 2 times per week
and my stomach is very bloated and can"t eat so much my apitite is all gone and must have much food in me now !
Have you heard about somebodyells that had this problem? and what to do?
- 02-27-2007, 09:13 AM
02-27-2007, 11:54 AM
02-27-2007, 04:59 PM
Grunt I came across an article regarding IGF. The author discusses its benefits but then goes on to these thoughts by Mauro Di Pasquale, MD,
"There is a feedback mechanism between the human growth hormone in the pituitary gland and the IGF-1 in the liver. The human growth hormone stimulates the release of IGF-1, but when the levels of IGF-1 rise to a certain point in the circulation, it signals the shutdown of growth hormone."
1. In your opinion is this accurate?
2.What can be done to minimize this?
3. Can CJC at help kick start the HGH natural production?
02-27-2007, 05:32 PM
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Also, do you think the recomp/fatloss properties of GH are primarily due to its effects on IGF and MGF? In this case, should IGF+MGF be expected to have similar fatloss properties? Or is this GH effect caused through some other mechanism?
03-01-2007, 09:53 AM
I attribute IGF-1's fatloss prowess to a few things:
1. Low insulin. IGF-1 replaces insulin for a few hours but only shuttles nutrients to non-fat cells. This allows for lipolisys to continue even when lots of high GI carbs are ingested, a condition in which normally insulin rises and puts a stop to lipolysis.
2. Shuttling nutrients to only lean cells. That is obvious but it is a point on its own.
3. Hyperplasia consumes LOTS of energy! Proliferation of myoblasts also. This is slower energy consumption is suited to fat metabolism.
03-02-2007, 08:57 AM
As far the anti-aging properties of GH goes, is it the IGF-1 that helps with this or another property of GH that does??
I'm asking because my wife is 38 and the little wrinkles are starting to bug her. We've talked about GH before, but if we could go straight to the IGF, that would be mch easier.
Also Grunt...would a woman's dosage be about 1/2 of a guys? She does lift pretty hard and eats cleaner than I do. She'd like a little more muscle, but other than that, she's pretty happy with her body.
03-02-2007, 09:38 AM
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03-02-2007, 09:46 AM
I have a buddy of mine who won't touch igf because of the fear of the "gut effect" What type of dosage would you need in order for that to happen with igf??
03-02-2007, 09:49 AM
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03-02-2007, 09:54 AM
cool man can't wait to get it.... just kidding
03-12-2007, 04:36 AM
posted in new thread, ill keep my ops outta here then!
03-12-2007, 12:46 PM
03-12-2007, 06:56 PM
thanks grunt, props to you for being helpful for so long on here
03-12-2007, 07:01 PM
grunt, pardon me if this is on here somewhere and i missed it, but how long do you run the igf during your 2XED cutting cycles?
and just for an update how long are you currently running the 3X weekly bulking cycles ?
03-12-2007, 10:38 PM
03-13-2007, 01:59 PM
that is great news, man i think igf if the best thing since bottled 40oz beers, (almost anyway)
i've got 6 more days of my 20mcg ED schedule and then
i'm running the 3X weekly then until i run out
03-13-2007, 02:32 PM
is it just me or does igf really make you crave sweets. I'm pretty good at staying away from them. but man has it been tough lately. The sweets have been winning a little lately. But the good thing is the igf seems to be keeping it off of my belly..
03-13-2007, 03:06 PM
03-14-2007, 09:10 AM
Yeah after all it is INSULINLIKE. If you crave sweets, it's because you are going hypo. Eat more. The IGF-1 will put it away at the right places no matter what you eat...
03-14-2007, 10:16 AM
Yea youre not alone brother. IGF-1 makes my appetite huge. I cant stop eating. Somehow, I still lean up around the waist though, which is great.
03-15-2007, 01:06 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else get a sense of well being while on IGF. I cant describe it but man.... I am always in a great mood and my energy level is out of this world. Its kind of addictive.
Im in sales and I just kill it when Im on IGF.
03-15-2007, 05:41 PM
I heard from a reputable source that Grunt smells like a ham sandwich that was left out in the sun.
03-15-2007, 08:44 PM
03-15-2007, 09:55 PM
igf1lr3, peg-MGF, MGF, rHGH,MT-II
I source posted now I'm banned.
Last edited by yeahright; 03-16-2007 at 12:41 AM.
03-15-2007, 10:56 PM
03-15-2007, 10:57 PM
Oh and Mary Zhou...it was nice to see you, too bad you won't be here long.
03-16-2007, 12:07 PM
I'm having trouble with the quad tendon just above where attaches to me knee and am going to see a PT on Monday.
Grunt: Can IGF-1 be injected into or near that tendon for some healing help, if so, what dose??
I've been running IGF for about a month now at 40mcgs 3x's/wk. Shooting biceps, chest, lats, and shoulders, but rotating those.
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