Bear with me guys: IGF-1 and penile tissue hyperplasia?

Page 1 of 3 123 Last
  1. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    Red face Bear with me guys: IGF-1 and penile tissue hyperplasia?


    So the other night I was trying to cram down calories..and well my appetite just wasn't there...Sooo I went with the good ol' tried and true appetite booster delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol

    Browsing the forums while eatings some chicken..some random words crossed my mind


    IGF-1, hyperplasia, penis enlargement exercises(jelqing)

    Now I can say, I tried some of these exercises for about a month before I got too bored of doing them and actually added .5" to my penis that has stayed for good.


    I consider myself to be well-educated about all kinds of drugs, AAS, and the likes, though I certainly don't know as much as a lot of the smart guys on this site..
    It makes perfect sense in my mind that if one were to do such exercises on an IGF-1 or GH cycle, it would certainly assist and speed up size gains of another manner.


    I plan on running a 30-day IGF-1 cycle sometime in the near future(once i get the damn money!) and I am going to put this theory to work regardless..


    The reason for posting this thread is just to see what other people think about it, if they have any experiences or opinions, etc.

    Also I think its pretty damn hilarious myself.

    ...I can't even guess what kind of off-track topics this thread may stray too..lol


  2. New Member
    Ikaika's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    26
    Rep Power
    129
    Level
    4
    Lv. Percent
    77.54%

    um. question. are you gonna pin it into your...um...nevermind.
  3. Board Supporter
    doggzj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Age
    30
    Posts
    951
    Rep Power
    598
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    45.13%

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikaika
    um. question. are you gonna pin it into your...um...nevermind.
    No, that isn't the idea. IGF-1 has the ability to cause new tissue growth. He isn't talking about local inj, he is looking at it's systematic properties. From what I know, IGF-1 can also speed recovery, which also would be a good for PE exercises.


    If you don't know anything about PE (penis enlargement), the most common way is for exercising the penile tissue to cause it to scretch. There are many theories, any not much for hard facts as to why I does work, or even if it is a long lasting effect. Some even theorize that the penile tissue becomes injured, and repairs itself stronger, like muscle tissue after a hard workout.

    Blown > This idea has actually crossed my mind before, so I'm very interested in what you find. You could find nothing at all, or maybe the theories are correct and you find some amazing results. Keep us posted.
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    Beowulf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    3,430
    Rep Power
    2153
    Level
    42
    Lv. Percent
    64.23%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Hey Blown, if you try this, please don't post progress pics
  5. Board Supporter
    judge-mental's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    39
    Posts
    731
    Rep Power
    492
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    5.88%

    not gonna work. basicaly the recptors there where shut down (the DHT receptors).
    there is alot more info on this, if you want I'll expand. you wouldnt get any penile enlargement from this, unless you are an adolescent.
  6. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikaika
    um. question. are you gonna pin it into your...um...nevermind.

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO!

    Dogg: Thanks for explaining the general idea


    About PE exercises in general and such: I did a program for a month more than 2 years ago, gained .5" and it has stayed since.

    I'm certainly expecting it to work, just due to the fact that i've had success in the past.
    I don't see why it wouldn't work, in fact I'm just hoping I don't end up with 16"+


    Beo: LOL! good stuff
  7. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    Quote Originally Posted by judge-mental
    not gonna work. basicaly the recptors there where shut down (the DHT receptors).
    there is alot more info on this, if you want I'll expand. you wouldnt get any penile enlargement from this, unless you are an adolescent.

    Please expand.
    I wouldn't think it has anything to do with the DHT receptors, just the fact that the IGF-1 grows more cells in the body where stressed?
    (scratching-the-surface theory)
  8. Board Supporter
    judge-mental's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    39
    Posts
    731
    Rep Power
    492
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    5.88%

    ok. you need to get your physiology strait. its not that simple. there are specific anabolic pathways where IGF is either a messenger or upregulates messengers (directly, receptor crosstalk, whatever)
    I don't have time for a full reiview on peniel tissue growth, maybe later
  9. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    Sorry man, I am in no way trying to say im an expert, i am far from that. When you get the time I'd love to read your reasoning.

    My reasoning is rather simple but goes like this:

    i've had PE experience and it was successful
    IGF-1/GH can cause hyperplasia, acromegaly, all over your body, face, internal organs, we all know about that stuff.
    I figure the stretching of penile tissue, slightly breaking it down, it would then "repairs itself stronger, like muscle tissue after a hard workout"(doggzj)

    Now I know for a fact these exercises work, I just need someones insight on the actually physiological actions of IGF on human tissue.

    You're speaking of anabolic pathways, but your penis isn't a muscle as we all know. Could someone chime in on IGF-1 and growth of other tissues asides from skeletal muscle?

    I am not disrespecting in anyway, I'm just lookin for some information and explanations.


    PS: My main reason for using IGF-1 is for the recomp effects, I just figured hey why not get a little extra from it

    Sometime in the near future I will be running a cycle, and along with my weight-training routine I will be incorporating the PE routine as well, so I guess I'll be the guy who settles this. Expect a log in the near future fellas.

  10. Board Supporter
    judge-mental's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Age
    39
    Posts
    731
    Rep Power
    492
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    5.88%

    yes, it will repair your ligaments. how will that enlarge your penis? its not a connective tissue.
  11. New Member
    bumCakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    170
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    49.59%

    What kind of exercises would ypu do??? Do you just like tie a 10lb plate to it or what?
  12. New Member
    McBurly's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Age
    31
    Posts
    498
    Rep Power
    162051
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    69.07%

    Quote Originally Posted by Blown
    Sooo I went with the good ol' tried and true appetite booster delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol

    lol damn hippies
  13. Board Supporter
    doggzj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Age
    30
    Posts
    951
    Rep Power
    598
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    45.13%

    Quote Originally Posted by judge-mental
    yes, it will repair your ligaments. how will that enlarge your penis? its not a connective tissue.
    One of the main ways to increase penile length is stretching of the ligaments that attach the penis to the body.

    I'm not saying this will/would work. PE itself is effective, but it's a very slow and long process. If this actually sped up the results, there is quite a large PE niche that would be buying all the IGF-1 they could find.
  14. Registered User
    Beowulf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    3,430
    Rep Power
    2153
    Level
    42
    Lv. Percent
    64.23%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    As you said, the penis is an organ. Many claim that IGF causes your organs to grow, which some people claim to be the reason that so many pros have distended guts. ALR says that we have a lot of IGF receptors in the intestines, so your penis might not grow, but you could end up with some big ass intestines!

    If it does in fact make organs grow, it could have some effect. But if what ALR says is true than other organs would probably claim most of the IGF.
  15. Elite Member
    DR.D's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  228 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    6,780
    Rep Power
    307856
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    45.71%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    What the hell is PE (jelqing)?! IGF increases scar tissue deposition in injured tissue. That may be a bad idea in the penis. The reason GH/IGF causes gut growth is the same reason it would not help penile growth much. The tissues with fast cell division (quick turnover) like blood, skin, intestines, cancer, etc. respond most rapidly and favorably. Stuff that doesn't have a fast turnover, like nerves, bones, penis will not respond too rapidly.

    I have heard that attaching weights to the penis will stretch it to increase length, but also have adverse effects on future erectile function. Is this the PE you speak of?
  16. Registered User
    Nabeshin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    287
    Rep Power
    264
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    98.08%

    The official medical/scientific community is to PE as the official medical/scientific community was to AAS. Which is to say, totally divorced from reality. So don't expect to be able to turn to the literature on this one.

    If you want to learn about this stuff, visit the appropriate boards. Lots of people have been doing it for around half a decade now, and I have yet to see anybody who didn't see an improvment in erectile function --- reports of harm in this regard are non existant.

    I've seen guys jelq too hard, too often, before they were experienced enough to handle hard workouts, and wind up with blood blisters on their dick. I even heard of a guy who managed to get blood to dribble out of his uretha as a result of his zeal. All parties recovered fully and quickly, and erectile function was not negatively impacted.

    The IGF-1 theory was actually discussed on MOS. I believe one of the members was an AAS user, and reported no additional gains in his PE while on an IGF-1 cycle. But that's one sketchy recollection, so take it for what it's worth. Too my knowledge, nobody has actually done a direct test.
  17. Registered User
    Ubiquitous's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  231 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    36
    Posts
    3,462
    Rep Power
    1851
    Level
    42
    Lv. Percent
    2.51%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    really though, like D said.. what the hell is jelging?

    Blown, please offer a breif explanation of this jelging thing. Blood blisters..
  18. Board Supporter
    SOWarrior's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    32
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    171
    Level
    10
    Lv. Percent
    39.44%

    There's a website that someone posted on Cuff's thread in the adult section with the link to the site for PE. Don't have time to get the link right now. Check out Cuff's Wild night thread. it's in there.
  19. Board Supporter
    doggzj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Age
    30
    Posts
    951
    Rep Power
    598
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    45.13%

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous
    really though, like D said.. what the hell is jelging?

    Blown, please offer a breif explanation of this jelging thing. Blood blisters..
    just google jelqing. You will come up with tons of reading. If you use to much force you can cause the veins to not only stretch, but break and cause spots of blood on the penis. It's just a bruise, and it goes away. Not nearly at bad as it sounds.
  20. Registered User
    Mach .78's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,228
    Rep Power
    732
    Level
    27
    Lv. Percent
    58.28%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by SOWarrior
    There's a website that someone posted on Cuff's thread in the adult section with the link to the site for PE. Don't have time to get the link right now. Check out Cuff's Wild night thread. it's in there.
    And that would be me. I have been doing the Newbie routine for a month and 20 days from Thunders Place and I have added 1/4 in length and a little girth. PE works. Some guys there have added 2" to there units as well as impressive girth gains (over time). I'm glad to see I can actually contribute to Dr. D's knowledge since you have been very informative in your posts on PCT protocols etc... You guys will find this site much like AM because these guys are good folks. There are some women on the forum as well. May I suggest the newbie routine first and after a couple of months you can try hanging for length and clamping for girth. I will be working on length before girth because, like they say, a thinner rubberband is easier to stretch than a thicker one. My wife notices the difference. I last longer and from Kegels I am learning how to become Multi orgasmic. Gentlemen, A Free PE site for you. Enjoy. Oh yea, I'm Proav8or over there. http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/index.php?
  21. Registered User
    Max32's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  270 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    1,063
    Rep Power
    1293
    Level
    25
    Lv. Percent
    58.13%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Quite the interesting thread guys, lol.
  22. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    LOL thanks max, don't act like youre not subscribed


    Yea PE works, that's not the question.
    I know 'PE workouts' can cause increases cell SIZE in penile tissue, just as weight training with muscle cells.

    The question is would the IGF-1 cause any hyperplasia(growth of new cells) in penile tissue?

    If anyone could chime in with some actual scientific info it would be wonderful.
  23. inventor of the remix
    Blown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    187
    Rep Power
    213
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    51.15%

    PS: My wang is going to end up looking like Lee Priest's arm in my avatar


  24. Kyra Gracie= my future wife
    mywetnightmares's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    435
    Rep Power
    333
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    33.24%

    I just thought of something, Birth control pills are estrogen correct? Well, estrogen makes titties grow right? What if a chick was to get a script for the pill and run IGF-1 concurrent? GIGANTANORMOUS TITTIES!!! I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, maybe more estrogen would be needed, but that could always be arranged. Somebody should find a female to try this. I've heard that in order to get a real good gyno goin' you need estrogen, progestin, IGF-1 (which is mediated by estrogen), and prolactin (mediated by progestin?). Think about the awesome titties that girls could get if they tried this and my theory is correct.

    Especially since IGF will cut fat. Big titty hard body females.
  25. Board Supporter
    max-rot98's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    738
    Rep Power
    487
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    95.73%

    Not that I know everything about gyno but does that sound contradicting. Estrogen causes fat igf reduces it. Isn't there a possibility that the igf would take away the estrogen mediated effects in female breast tissue? Just a thought. Like I said I don't know as much as some so I could be off.

    But I sure hope your theory is correct MWN.
  26. Kyra Gracie= my future wife
    mywetnightmares's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    435
    Rep Power
    333
    Level
    17
    Lv. Percent
    33.24%

    Well that's the great thing, titties aren't made of all fat, there's still small girls out there with big titties remember. Igf-1 isn't anti-estrogenic anyway, it just causes fat loss. Girls could shed a few pounds of fat on cycle and develop some breast tissue at the same time. I't kinda like how even if guys who have gyno cut down the still have gyno.
  27. Board Supporter
    max-rot98's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    738
    Rep Power
    487
    Level
    22
    Lv. Percent
    95.73%

    Think of this too though a guy still can reduce the size of the gyno by cutting. The lump under the nipple is still there and nipples may be puffy and possibly still hold a little fat there but visibly the gyno is much reduced.

    Also wouldn't small girls with big titties be genetic, where they hold their fat when they put on fat not high estrogen high igf-1?

    Also then what else are titties made of besides fat that will grow from igf-1 use out of curiousity?

    Understand I am not trying to start a huge debate or take this thread off topic but I am having a hard time understanding your theory.
  28. USA HOCKEY
    CEDeoudes59's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,928
    Rep Power
    3204
    Level
    48
    Lv. Percent
    8.25%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    search: IGF*
    http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/
    (ton of stuff there, you just gotta search through the BS)
    post good information if you find any

    supra was injecting it in his....
    he used to hang out here until we chased him away...
    My Little Site about Hair Loss & Anabolics-
    hair loss from steroids dot com
  29. Registered User
    whunterx's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Age
    68
    Posts
    68
    Rep Power
    163
    Level
    8
    Lv. Percent
    6.91%

    Interesting stuff here guys. I never heard of any of this stuff before. I guess i'll have to incorporate "jelging" into my training.
  30. Elite Member
    DR.D's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  228 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    6,780
    Rep Power
    307856
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    45.71%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach .78
    ... I'm glad to see I can actually contribute to Dr. D's knowledge since you have been very informative in your posts on PCT protocols etc...
    Thanks Mach! It seems there is always something new to learn these days.
  31. Diamond Member
    Jayhawkk's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Age
    39
    Posts
    12,790
    Rep Power
    11682
    Level
    67
    Lv. Percent
    47.82%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Anyone else cringe when they read the blood blister and poping of veins part?
  32. Elite Member
    DR.D's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  228 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    6,780
    Rep Power
    307856
    Level
    56
    Lv. Percent
    45.71%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    The whole thing sounds a bit extreme to me. Just for an extra inch you would milk your wiener 30 minutes a day for a whole year?! F that. It just sounds tedious. If you could do some form of PE that produced lasting results without any vascular damage in just a month or two, that would be different. I'll just have to make do with my little 8 inch wang. (lol)

    To be honest, the real way to do this is when you are young. Doing androgens at a young age while your penis is still growing is very effective. I started cycling at 16 years old, and I can tell you it does promote growth for sure! If one were to do a few cycles between the ages of say 14 and 17, significant and permanent results would be achieved.
  33. Registered User
    Nabeshin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    287
    Rep Power
    264
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    98.08%

    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    The whole thing sounds a bit extreme to me. Just for an extra inch you would milk your wiener 30 minutes a day for a whole year?! F that. It just sounds tedious. If you could do some form of PE that produced lasting results without any vascular damage in just a month or two, that would be different. I'll just have to make do with my little 8 inch wang. (lol)
    ****, if I had an 8 inch wang, I wouldn't bother, either. But I don't, so I do.
  34. New Member
    bumCakes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    170
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    49.59%

    Would "Flogging the Dolphin" count as PE? If so, i can do a year. But if not, i'm too afraid to watch the video on how to perform these exercises... "Learn How to Jelq, FREE VIDEO" No, Thank You.
  35. New Member
    the Cardinal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    182
    Rep Power
    226
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    37.27%

    I almost hate to bring this up, but how about injecting hyaluronic acid gel? It's being tested for premature ejaculation, but has the an interesting side effect of increasing glans circumference.

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/495107
  36. New Member
    TheGreatHunt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    20
    Rep Power
    121
    Level
    4
    Lv. Percent
    64.43%

    Heck yes I'm subscribed! LOL...

    Yes, some girls have great proportions without being fat(My girlfriend is 34-24-36). I took a look at this jelqing thing... looks tight, I'll do it, hahahah.

    When is this cycle supposed to happen? I want to READ about it... PLEASE don't post any pics of your training heheh
  37. USA HOCKEY
    CEDeoudes59's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,928
    Rep Power
    3204
    Level
    48
    Lv. Percent
    8.25%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    like weightlifting gains come real fast, you can add over an inch in about 4 months
    My Little Site about Hair Loss & Anabolics-
    hair loss from steroids dot com
  38. Registered User
    Nabeshin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    287
    Rep Power
    264
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    98.08%

    Yeah, fast. For very small values of fast.
  39. Banned
    anapolack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    184
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    3.27%

    ok.....correct me if im wrong......but viagra......it causes blood to flow to weenie right?.....well if your on lr3 and dose viagra every 6 hours and give your pee pee an occasional tug and rub to keep it full every half hour would the igf collect there in the erectile tissue and cause hyperplasia?
  40. Board Supporter
    xtraflossy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Age
    34
    Posts
    1,930
    Rep Power
    12331
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    21.94%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Why bother with the Viagra??
    Just give it a shot in the dome! put a rubberband around the base (not too tight) for 20 min or so.
    Your sure to grow a few more penises that way
    (actually, maybe that doesnt sound as crazy as it did a second ago)

    HERE: http://-Study done on IGF (and other...t/full/24/1/85

    - IT took me forever to find this information.
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. STUPID question but bear with me srs question
    By Chico222 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 06-19-2010, 01:28 AM
  2. Phera Plex Guidance - newbie - bear with me....
    By arudd1 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 05-22-2006, 11:34 AM
  3. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-15-2005, 09:31 PM
  4. timing issues with igf and insulin
    By GH_MAN in forum IGF-1/GH
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 08-02-2004, 03:29 PM
  5. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 01-21-2004, 09:52 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in