Whats the offical word on Oratropin-1?

UNDERTAKER · 05-09-2005, 11:34 AM

I heard a lot about it when it very first came out, but no new logs or info from more users in this or the IBE forum. It would be nice if anyone who tried it could post a summary of their experience with it on this thread.

-2z- · 05-09-2005, 12:43 PM

I'd like an update on that stuff as well.

bmass · 05-09-2005, 01:22 PM

does anyone know if it has been lab tested??

LuckyBoy · 05-09-2005, 01:28 PM

I was going to do a log but I don't know how well the feedback would apply to everybody. I'm currently on day 11 of a 30 day as part of pct. The issue is I work 4 very hard hours in a warehouse every night which is basically hardcore cardio. I can tell that I've lost some fat and I'm definitely fuller in my upper body. The pumps are there during my normal workouts and during work. Theyre not as painful as injectable is reported to be so that helps. I can keep you guys updated if you'd like but like I said, my work load isnt normal so my results may be skewed. But so far I can tell something is definitely going on. Oh and my hair is growing like a weed. (I've never had balding issues)

UNDERTAKER · 05-09-2005, 01:41 PM

yea dude keep us posted

SJA · 05-09-2005, 02:13 PM

I think that price has kept people from buying this.

lifted · 05-09-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SJA

I think that price has kept people from buying this.

I know it has for me...I'm about to run an injectable cycle instead within the next few months..still deciding though.

From all that I've READ, OT-1 is definatley result producing, but compared to the inj. IGF-1, it doesn't compare. This coming from guys that have done both inj. and oral. Why pay more for less results? I can see if unwanted pinning was an issue though...

Ginseng · 05-09-2005, 02:22 PM

Lucky boy,

What did you mean when you said your hair is growing like a weed? is it just growing at a faster rate or is it alot thicker than usual?

lifted · 05-09-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IBE

I am not sure where you are heiring this from but it does compare if not better

Really? Do you have any links from users' reports? I'd like to read them.

All that I've seen at this forum and others (I can't however list those sites), people have said that they had better results from the inj. And some have said that they haven't exp. much at all. I have to admit though, I as soon as I saw those logs, I didn't care too much for it since everybodsy was saying the inj. was much better. So maybe I missed some NEWER logs? Please explain, thx.

lifted · 05-09-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IBE

the only person I know of on this board that said the inject was better was riskbar they have lots of logs on most of the other boards give me a few min. to gether them up and I will post them here.

okay, thx for the help...

LuckyBoy · 05-09-2005, 03:50 PM

It's growing back thicker and really quick. I just got a hair cut about 2 1/2 weeks ago and I could already use another one.

**milwood** · 05-09-2005, 04:15 PM

IBE-
can you get as much absorbed via this new oral delivery system as an inject? That was my question. I did 30 days of OT, and my personal guess was that it simply takes more than was originally thought to make it happen (given limited oral efficacy compared to ~100% inj). Very unscientific on my part, of course. I felt good on it, but got nothing noticable that is intrinsic to IGF, so I can't really say. This is not to criticize, because my overall cycle was good. I was on other anabolics, though, so I am a bad case study. The lack of any sides or pronounced results just made me wonder. The other thing I worried about was not having refrigerated it right away. Could that have ruined it?

I will look closely for reports, because I would love to do another cycle of this. I plan to do a IGF cycle in about 4 weeks, and was planning to run inj to compare (never done that either prior). I'm intrigued by the oral delivery, and would MUCH RATHER go that route, to be sure. If I can get some clarity on it, I'll do it. I think some people are still worried that since it has never been orally bioavailable before, it just can't really be done. And that's what many of the big science guys on a number of boards still maintain.

lifted · 05-09-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IBE

We can tell you that we are awaiting a diseased study outcome involving â€œStreptocytosin (STZ)â€? induced diabetes study that yields NO â€œBack Ground Noiseâ€? that will determine 3 new alternative compositions.

IBE, excuse my ignorance, but does this mean you're testing people that are pre-disposed to diabetes? And then seeing wether or not the OT-1 will induce diabetes in them? Probably not...lol...but I would like to see something like this done as diabetes also runs in the family and I'm being very cautious with IGF-1 useage for this very reason...

**milwood** · 05-09-2005, 05:49 PM

thanks for your input, IBE, as always. Now what's new with the GHRP oral? Any updates? And do you think that oral delivery will someday replace inj. totally?

juggernaut333 · 05-09-2005, 06:39 PM

There is some positive feedback on this at UBB

bmass · 05-10-2005, 06:03 AM

But IBE i dont understand why dont you lab test your gear and then you have proof in black and white and you can end all speculations it would only be good for your business

UNDERTAKER · 05-10-2005, 03:31 PM

is oraltropin-1 the only oral product you have at this time under this class of stuff?

400runner · 05-10-2005, 04:13 PM

could you give us a date about what month it should be comming out?

UNDERTAKER · 05-10-2005, 04:53 PM

what are the differences in effects these new products will produce in comparision to ot-1

nevergoodenough · 05-10-2005, 05:38 PM

I just started an oratropin log in IBE's section of the board if anyone is interested...