Smashin pct: ghrp6/cjc no dac/mt2/igf lr3/mgf peg
- 05-21-2012, 09:23 PM
I will be starting pct 6/3:
1-4 torem 60mg/day
I was on hcg so I expect this to go well. Ran deca and test for 12 weeks.
1-16 ghrp6 100mcg x2/day
1-16 cjc without dac 100mcg x2/day
1-2,5-6,9-10,13-14 clen 20/40/60/80(increase every couple days for two weeks)
1-4,9-12 mgf peg 200mcg x2/week
5-8,13-16 igf lr3 30mcg x3/week
MT2 will be loaded during pct, and then I will switch to maintenance protocol. This is both for summer being here, and it lowering cortisol, but I also like the libido stimulation and fat loss.
- 05-22-2012, 09:09 PM
Nice cycle, is the forma topical or capsuleChristopher
- 05-22-2012, 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by csa2179
05-23-2012, 10:48 AM
Yeah I think it will be a good cycle, I'm on osta right now. Just came out of a two week deload so im about to start lifting heavy, anxious to see how good this osta is, this is the end of week 2.
05-23-2012, 11:25 AM
Haha ya my 1 week deload ended up being a two week deload - I started my 2nd job and I've been swamped. At least the new job is hull cleaning which has me swimming, carrying equipment and scrubbing hulls is a great arm workout...Originally Posted by csa2179
Last time I did forma 50mg x2/day for 60 days. I want to increase that to 112 days but I've read you should only run it 6-8 weeks, and to lower the dose the last week or two. Also at this dosage could I expect it to cause acne? That's a big reason I'm going into pct, and thinking against osta...
05-23-2012, 11:53 AM
Did u get RC osta or iron mag? If u got research chem. I would run it 20mg I'm on that and am retaining muscle and lower bf
05-23-2012, 07:48 PM
05-24-2012, 10:16 AM
I have mp osta 20mg, haven't ran it before... Not sure what to expect from it, but if I can expect acne I'm prolly going to lay off for a bit.Originally Posted by csa2179
05-24-2012, 10:17 AM
Why without peg mgf? I've heard good things about it... And that it works like an igf pct, allowing igf to work better.Originally Posted by 956Vette
05-24-2012, 11:49 AM
run the lr3 + mgf at the same time. igf pre w/o 3-4x week, mgf morning in the muscles worked day before, 2-3x week. igf and mgf never on the same day.
this way u have gaps in this "cycle" without insulin.
05-24-2012, 07:43 PM
just did first dose. im ****ing stoked!!
05-25-2012, 12:06 AM
I read they compete for receptor sites, even taken on separate days(long half lives). But when you cycle between the two they both work better(almost like a pct to the other?). This is just the information I've came across, and if you can shed some light that'd be great. And I get what you're saying about gaps from insulin, is that important? Would it work if I did a 1 week break between them, cause that would work out well in my every 5th week deload...Originally Posted by GLHF
05-25-2012, 08:08 AM
Hey this is a little off topic, but is there anything u can use to directly enhance a specific set of muscles. My chest is gentically small. I want it to get bigger, I can develop strength in it but no size, I've tried everything as far as training. My shoulders, back, and legs are huge, I have 18inch bi's but my chest is really bring my symmetry out of wack.
05-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Two things: how is you're posture? If that's good then have you tried igf or mgf? Igf causes hyperplasia, and mgf increases satellite cells. My chest was already pretty big, but igf made my pecs get huge. And I've heard cycling between mgf n igf makes each of them work better. Just a thought, read up on them.Originally Posted by csa2179
05-25-2012, 04:04 PM
Thanks I will, u inject directly in to the peck?
05-25-2012, 04:40 PM
Yup, half in one, half in the other. Pre or post workout, I did post. Supposedly its supposed to take awhile for the new cells to mature, but mine started looking bigger right away.Originally Posted by csa2179
05-25-2012, 04:56 PM
Is tweleve weeks long enough of a cycle for them and can u use Aas while using them?
05-25-2012, 08:07 PM
I think its supposed to be 4 weeks on 2-4 weeks off for either one of them. Something about diminishing returns after that point... That's why I'm cycling between the two, that way I'm constantly getting something in effect, and getting the needed down time for each at the same time. Now I'm thinking about a 1 week break between em too.Originally Posted by csa2179
And ya, you can run on aas, its actually more effective cause the new cells mature faster. I think the only one you wouldn't want to run it with is tren which greatly increases igf as it is.
05-26-2012, 03:25 PM
Word, well I've got a test cycle coming up in August, I need to do more research cuz I'd love to add this in. What were ur dosages, and can u post a chest pic, no homo
05-26-2012, 06:03 PM
05-26-2012, 06:06 PM
What I like to do is add 2cc, then pull 1cc into a pin and freeze it, then divide 100 tics by 16 for 4 injects a week. That comes to just over 30mcg per dose which worked fine for me.Originally Posted by smash1904
05-26-2012, 06:27 PM
Is that per peck
05-26-2012, 06:29 PM
Ur chest has a nice outline, that's what I'm trying to get but it won't build.
05-26-2012, 10:38 PM
Nope, 15mcg per pec.Originally Posted by csa2179
05-26-2012, 10:45 PM
Haha ya thanks, I feel I'm lacking mostly in my triceps, forearms and calves. Pretty happy about everything else. Post a pic so I can see what you're talking about, no homo. And ya igf/mgf will tale care of your chest not growing. Start taking it now, like igf June mgf July and then another month of igf in August when you start your cycle, and then the test will have a lot of new muscle cells to mature, your chest should get huge - just make sure you kill it on bench, pec dec n flies...Originally Posted by csa2179
05-27-2012, 11:29 AM
i dropped my fone in water so the camera doesnt work. um my chest doesnt really grow thicker or wider. it looks like i have worked out for two years and never done chest.
05-27-2012, 04:50 PM
Ya I know what you mean, it sucks. That should change with igf and test.Originally Posted by csa2179
06-22-2012, 11:53 PM
Alright the times just about come. I have torem, daa, and exemestane(don't have $ for formastane) on hand, and clen, ghrp6, cjc, peg mgf, and mt2 in the mail - should be here early next week.
I have a couple questions:
If I took my last shot on Thursday, when do I start torem? I was thinking tomorrow...
I started daa today, but when do I start the exemestane? It's 25mg caps so I'm thinking M/W/F but I'm not sure if that's too much/frequent.
Would running clen 5 on 2 off be good enough to keep me from desensitizing ect? I'd take benedryl F/S/S, but should I stick to the 2 weeks on 1 week off schedule?
Ghrp6 am/pm - 100/100
Cjc am/pm - 50/100
Mt2 250/day for 2 weeks then M/W/F
Peg mgf 250 M/Th x4 weeks
06-23-2012, 10:27 PM
How heavy can you go at how many reps? JW.
06-24-2012, 08:58 AM
In which lift? I'm currently doing 3x30 at 30% 1rm after some issues with 4x10 and 5x5 routines.Originally Posted by mazdaspeed619
06-24-2012, 12:41 PM
It really kind of started last night, but this is the first morning so I'm setting today as day 1. I dosed torem(60mg caps) last night and this morning, and will do another tonight, before just dosing once a day. Just kickstarting. I've been on DAA for three days now, will start exemestane on Monday. Dosed ghrp and mt2 last night and today, still waiting on the cjc... Should be here Monday.
So two questions yet to be answered:
1) Exemestane 25mg M/W/F? I know I don't want to kill my estrogen, but I need it under control cause of the daa.
2) Clen M-F weekends off? Is that enough time off vs on to not desensitize?
06-24-2012, 12:44 PM
So does ghrp and cjc have synergy with mgf? Seems like the elevated gh would cause elevated igf, and mgf would keep developing satellite cells for the igf to convert...
06-24-2012, 12:49 PM
Eggs, potatoes, tomatoes and avacado. I try and eat one avacado a day. I'm working on my diet cause not eating for 6 hours during the intense bout of excersise that I call work is causing me to lose weight and feel drained.
06-24-2012, 08:02 PM
06-25-2012, 12:57 AM
Thanks, I'm really looking forward to this.
06-25-2012, 10:35 PM
Still feeling good, cleaning boats actually felt easier today than last week. Got the last of my order today(ep cjc and clen). Usp ghrp6 is g2g(hungry as ****), and I swear my shoulders looked bigger and veineyer this morning after dosing mgf last night post shoulder workout. Nothing to report Usp on mt2 - I'm just sunburnt.
06-25-2012, 10:51 PM
So I've been researching this product called kratom - very interesting:
Mitragyna speciosa is a leafy tree that grows from 3-15 meters tall. Its leaves contain mitragynine and are chewed as an opiate substitute and stimulant in Thailand and South-East Asia, primarily among the working class. It has a relatively long history of human use.
I'm going to try it out to see if I can stop my painkiller script.
06-26-2012, 12:37 PM
Started clen today, 30mcg, will dose 30/30/40/40/50 during the week with weekends off and I'm pretty sure I'm going to need to take a week off every two weeks with this protocol. Also 50mg benedryl every night.
Started cjc last night, felt refreshed on 6 hours of sleep.
One note: since I started the mt2 I've been waking up with morning wood that doesn't go away after using the bathroom, for a long time either, so I understand that side effect now.
06-27-2012, 02:13 PM
Lol, I've heard about that side effect of mt2 many times. Not a bad side to add while in PCT!Originally Posted by smash1904
06-27-2012, 03:15 PM
Ya I've been wanting to try it for awhile, and with my acne acting up, summer being here, and starting pct with it increasing libido and offering cortisol control, it seemed optimal.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
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