Smashin pct: ghrp6/cjc no dac/mt2/igf lr3/mgf peg
- 06-27-2012, 03:18 PM
- 06-27-2012, 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Jahcuree
- 06-28-2012, 11:45 AM
So I increased the clen dose to 50mcg and its giving me the shakes. Also I've had some serious strength drops and I'm pretty sure its from my job: my muscles are already heavily fatigued once I get to the gym.
50mcg was way too much for me - I felt shaky weak and tired all morning. I've also been getting back pumps, so all in all I think I'm on to much stuff, and have decided to drop the clen for now.
06-29-2012, 12:07 PM
So big thing I don't like about going into pct is feeling doms real bad. You take your on cycle recovery for granted tell you're off. Aside from that I feel fine.
Also I ran into a gym buddy I hadn't seen in awhile, told him why I hadn't been around much and he said "you still look big." I guess even with 10 lbs lost I don't look much smaller? I hope its been my bf getting lower, kinda looks like it.
06-30-2012, 07:50 PM
So today was my 6th day straight of work and my arms are like noodles. I had to end early, which made my boss pretty angry "not doing what you say you're going to do." Made me feel terrible, but I had trouble pulling myself out of the water onto the dock. Hope I don't get punished or fired next week.
I can really feel not being on gear now - aesthetically I'm doing fine, but my recovery is ****.
07-04-2012, 01:18 AM
I really need a pre workout shake, this job is killing my gym time. I'm down to 3 exercises a day on my 4 day muscle split, and I'm having trouble finishing my sets. Really its just my push muscles that are suffering, being fatigued from work, and then making it hard to work the day after. Legs and pull seem ok, just overall energy is down.
07-06-2012, 01:55 AM
Seems my weight has more or less level out, now I just need to increase the calories a bit to start growing again. I'll be ordering some mcts tomorrow, so that should make a big difference. I also want to get some more waxy maize and maybe some casein. I'm going to give that new maximize a try, loved v2 and this version looks pretty legit.
Just want to note I have close to no libido right now, but I think that might have a bit to do with my lack of energy. Between the physical exertion and trying to start up my own test production at the same time is leaving me feeling pretty depleted.
07-07-2012, 12:08 AM
My workouts are getting a little better and I think recovery is picking up. Ordered mcts cause they didn't have em at the shop I get everything from.
07-08-2012, 07:27 PM
Weight is up, same with energy and recovery, but libido still sucks. Not that I can't perform, just no desire. I'm still getting mean morning wood, which makes it weird. Still getting bad acne flare ups, but it seems to be spacing out and getting better. I look leaner and more vascular so I think I'm recomping well. Also the pain in my joints is going away.
Now I wanna talk about mt2: I will post pictures but I am far darker than I have ever been and in 2 weeks flat. I've been dosing 250mcg every morning, now I'm dosing M/W/F cause I don't want to get much darker(especially in the face). I have a lot of friends asking if I've been tanning and I just say its excessive sun exposure cause of work.
07-09-2012, 12:01 AM
Hahah getting too brown?? That's scarry, I think I'd turn black on the stuffOriginally Posted by smash1904
07-09-2012, 12:02 AM
This is probably a stupid question, but what are MCTs?Originally Posted by smash1904
07-09-2012, 02:04 AM
Haha ya my face is getting way to dark, I don't know how to slow it down so the rest of my body can catch up... Sunscreen? Wearing a hat? If it gets much darker I may drop it to once a week dosing next week.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-09-2012, 02:07 AM
Mcts are medium chain triglycerideds, which means fast absorb fat that is more readily used as energy rather than stored as fat. I'm hoping I'll start gaining weight again with it being added to my shakes.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-09-2012, 12:45 PM
Ah, gotcha. Thanks brotha, sounds good.Originally Posted by smash1904
I have no idea how to get the body to catch up to your face color. I'd say maybe try to layout with your face covered once a week.
07-09-2012, 10:21 PM
I've been covering my head in a tanning bed to try and even it out, but I think the uv rays still go through my shirt. I think I need a high spf cream to put on darker spots.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-10-2012, 12:12 AM
If you have a rash guard, they are usually 100% uv protection. Try that over your face if you have one.Originally Posted by smash1904
07-10-2012, 06:14 PM
hey, i started my test cycle, what did you recommend to help develop my chest, was it MFG. i rember it has a really short half life, and id half to freeze it.
07-11-2012, 01:19 AM
Actually I do, I'll try that out. Thanks.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-11-2012, 01:34 AM
There is mgf and mgf peg, and then igf des and igf lr3. Regular mgf/igf des has a 5 min? halflife, where as mgf peg/igf lr3 is something like a 24 hours halflife. Mgf will increase satellite cells, but without igf those cells won't really turn into muscle cells, or not as well? Igf will use up all the satellite cells pretty quickly, so you can make it more efficacious by cycling between the two(I've been thinking one week mgf peg followed by a week of igf lr3 and repeating) or by taking them at the same time. The timing is pretty important: mgf 1 hour after workout igf 12 hours after mgf(which is how your body naturally works I guess). I think need regular mgf to use in conjunction with the igf lr3, although you can use igf des as well. Using the mgf peg will compete with igf which is why you want something like 24 hours between uses, so there are ways of working that too. Igf stays effective for 4 weeks before needing to take 2-4 weeks off.Originally Posted by csa2179
07-11-2012, 01:24 PM
So the last couple nights I've been waking up at about 5 in the morning and having trouble going back to sleep - I'm awake and refreshed, ready to start the day. I force myself back to sleep cause 5 hours of sleep can't possibly be enough, can it?
07-11-2012, 03:35 PM
Haha I don't know man, I cant function highly with that amount of sleep, but if you feel good it must be ok for your body.Originally Posted by smash1904
07-11-2012, 11:58 PM
Just a couple post back/bicep workout shots. I think you can see I'm significantly darker too.
07-12-2012, 02:09 PM
Noticeably darker. You looking more Italian already. HahaOriginally Posted by smash1904
07-12-2012, 09:16 PM
Haha my roomates called me a guido the other day...
07-16-2012, 01:18 AM
Im feeling all right, but not fully recovered yet. Doms is pretty bad, but my joints feel good and my energy is all right. More sleep would help. Acne seems gone some days, but then it comes back with a vengeance.
I can't compare igf to mgf, cause I could see and feel the igf working but I can't tell if the mgf is doing anything. It doesn't seem to enhance my recovery, or to really be helping in any way - everything I'm seeing and feeling can be explained with the ghrp and cjc.
07-16-2012, 11:50 AM
Adding a little over 50ml to my morning shake which comes to about 350 calories from mcts. Will double that up next week if my weight doesn't start inching the other way.
07-18-2012, 07:32 PM
So the mcts are making me sick - had me in the bathroom all morning.
07-19-2012, 12:45 AM
So mct is a no go, at least with now brand. Makes me sickly. Work was terrible today, felt like I was going to puke in the water the whole time.
I am placing an order soon for igf and mgf. Figured I would do igf lr3 and regular mgf for four weeks(mgf 1 hour post workout, igf 12-24 hours later) followed by a week off when I would take mgf peg 1 hour post work out. Then I would start over.
07-19-2012, 12:16 PM
So I found a protocol, and modified it to include MGF post wo:
Sunday - Off Training - Mid-day PegMGF 200-300mcg
Monday - Training (Afternoon) MGF 100-200mcg 1 hour post wo
Tuesday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Wednesday - Training (Afternoon) MGF 100-200mcg 1 hour post wo
Thursday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Friday - Training (Afternoon) MGF 100-200mcg 1 hour post wo
Saturday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF Injection 40-80mcg
Should allow enough stem cell proliferation to keep igf as effective as possible for a much longer time(perhaps indefinitly?). We will see, but I am very excited.
07-23-2012, 12:55 AM
I'm feeling pretty stable, weights steady, work outs are getting pretty good again, recovery is getting better. Only problem I'm really having is my libido sucks. It's not that I can't perform, its just a disturbing complete lack of desire.
More on mt2: I am now dark as ****, everyone is shocked. My hands and face are darkest from getting the most exposure, with my legs being the lightest with the least exposure. I had dropped to 250mcg twice a week, but now feel I need to cut that in half. I honestly don't want to get much darker. Just check out my hand:
07-24-2012, 12:31 PM
Weight is up a little bit, and I'm looking leaner, so Im taking that as a good sign.
07-25-2012, 12:14 AM
Stepped on one of those machines that tells you your bf based on electrical impedance... Said 14%, but I dunno how accurate that is, or if I calibrated it wrong.
07-26-2012, 11:53 AM
Weights starting to creep up again, I can't wait tell I start igf. Also tried a new exercise last night: you hold two plates together in front of you. I guess its like a pec static hold? Felt really good.
07-26-2012, 07:14 PM
I read about that exercise in one of the articles on here...did u use it as a finisher for the pecs?
07-27-2012, 01:48 AM
Ya that's where I read about it too, but I'm doing 3 full body work outs a week so I don't overwork a muscle group. The gym and my work make each other very difficult, and hitting all the muscles lightly 3x a week is a lot more manageable.
07-29-2012, 01:24 AM
Been super busy the last couple days, got a settlement check so I been looking at investment opportunities, and a work truck. I really want to buy everything I could ever want to run, but I'm trying to hold onto as much investment capital as possible.
Everything except my igf showed up the other day "very sorry, we'll get that right out to you." I'd have started it already
07-30-2012, 11:53 AM
Lol nice. What do you do for work?Originally Posted by smash1904
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07-31-2012, 11:17 AM
I'm a diver, mostly doing hull cleaning right now...
07-31-2012, 01:41 PM
oh nice dude. I heard there is a decent amount of money involved with commercial divers.Originally Posted by smash1904
edit: how are the updates on the tan? you super dark now?
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08-02-2012, 11:29 AM
So I'm just about 6 weeks into pct, I'm feeling fairly recovered so am coming off torem/exem/daa. Might get some formestane and start daa back up in a couple weeks, but I kinda want my endocrine system to work on its own for a bit. I bought some tren ace, test 400 and test prop, plus some var for my next cycle. I also have some dbol, and epistane, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to end up running or how I'm going to run it, but I'm going to give myself a good 100-150 days off. I'm going to run another cycle of accutane before hand, and need to wait a month or two before I feel I should.
This gives me plenty of time to mess around with igf which I started at 40mcg yesterday. Did 200mcg mgf into four muscles the night before. I'm going to try 60mcg on Friday, just want to see if I get hypo or not cause I didn't with 40mcg... If that doesn't happen I'm going to try another brand and compare. I might want to mess around ostarine at some point, or high dose formestane for anabolic effect.
Mt2 is down to 100mcg on Friday night cause I can't control my hands getting darker. It's to the point where my hands are as dark as my neighbors, and he's a light skinned black dude... So its Friday night, with a Saturday tanning both session.
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