Smashin pct: ghrp6/cjc no dac/mt2/igf lr3/mgf peg
- 06-24-2012, 02:41 PM
It really kind of started last night, but this is the first morning so I'm setting today as day 1. I dosed torem(60mg caps) last night and this morning, and will do another tonight, before just dosing once a day. Just kickstarting. I've been on DAA for three days now, will start exemestane on Monday. Dosed ghrp and mt2 last night and today, still waiting on the cjc... Should be here Monday.
So two questions yet to be answered:
1) Exemestane 25mg M/W/F? I know I don't want to kill my estrogen, but I need it under control cause of the daa.
2) Clen M-F weekends off? Is that enough time off vs on to not desensitize?
- 06-24-2012, 02:44 PM
So does ghrp and cjc have synergy with mgf? Seems like the elevated gh would cause elevated igf, and mgf would keep developing satellite cells for the igf to convert...
06-24-2012, 02:49 PM
Eggs, potatoes, tomatoes and avacado. I try and eat one avacado a day. I'm working on my diet cause not eating for 6 hours during the intense bout of excersise that I call work is causing me to lose weight and feel drained.
06-24-2012, 10:02 PM
06-25-2012, 02:57 AM
06-26-2012, 12:35 AM
Still feeling good, cleaning boats actually felt easier today than last week. Got the last of my order today(ep cjc and clen). Usp ghrp6 is g2g(hungry as ****), and I swear my shoulders looked bigger and veineyer this morning after dosing mgf last night post shoulder workout. Nothing to report Usp on mt2 - I'm just sunburnt.
06-26-2012, 12:51 AM
So I've been researching this product called kratom - very interesting:
Mitragyna speciosa is a leafy tree that grows from 3-15 meters tall. Its leaves contain mitragynine and are chewed as an opiate substitute and stimulant in Thailand and South-East Asia, primarily among the working class. It has a relatively long history of human use.
I'm going to try it out to see if I can stop my painkiller script.
06-26-2012, 02:37 PM
Started clen today, 30mcg, will dose 30/30/40/40/50 during the week with weekends off and I'm pretty sure I'm going to need to take a week off every two weeks with this protocol. Also 50mg benedryl every night.
Started cjc last night, felt refreshed on 6 hours of sleep.
One note: since I started the mt2 I've been waking up with morning wood that doesn't go away after using the bathroom, for a long time either, so I understand that side effect now.
06-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Lol, I've heard about that side effect of mt2 many times. Not a bad side to add while in PCT!Originally Posted by smash1904
06-27-2012, 05:15 PM
Ya I've been wanting to try it for awhile, and with my acne acting up, summer being here, and starting pct with it increasing libido and offering cortisol control, it seemed optimal.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
06-27-2012, 05:18 PM
Yeah man, that makes the mt2 sound like an amazing addition to PCT, my only scare with it would be getting waay too dark with the nice natural sun out. I've seen some real crazy transformations as far as skin tone with that productOriginally Posted by smash1904
06-27-2012, 10:21 PM
Ya my head gets a lot more sun exposure than anything else, I got to watch for that.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
06-28-2012, 01:45 PM
So I increased the clen dose to 50mcg and its giving me the shakes. Also I've had some serious strength drops and I'm pretty sure its from my job: my muscles are already heavily fatigued once I get to the gym.
50mcg was way too much for me - I felt shaky weak and tired all morning. I've also been getting back pumps, so all in all I think I'm on to much stuff, and have decided to drop the clen for now.
06-29-2012, 02:07 PM
So big thing I don't like about going into pct is feeling doms real bad. You take your on cycle recovery for granted tell you're off. Aside from that I feel fine.
Also I ran into a gym buddy I hadn't seen in awhile, told him why I hadn't been around much and he said "you still look big." I guess even with 10 lbs lost I don't look much smaller? I hope its been my bf getting lower, kinda looks like it.
06-30-2012, 09:50 PM
So today was my 6th day straight of work and my arms are like noodles. I had to end early, which made my boss pretty angry "not doing what you say you're going to do." Made me feel terrible, but I had trouble pulling myself out of the water onto the dock. Hope I don't get punished or fired next week.
I can really feel not being on gear now - aesthetically I'm doing fine, but my recovery is ****.
07-04-2012, 03:18 AM
I really need a pre workout shake, this job is killing my gym time. I'm down to 3 exercises a day on my 4 day muscle split, and I'm having trouble finishing my sets. Really its just my push muscles that are suffering, being fatigued from work, and then making it hard to work the day after. Legs and pull seem ok, just overall energy is down.
07-06-2012, 03:55 AM
Seems my weight has more or less level out, now I just need to increase the calories a bit to start growing again. I'll be ordering some mcts tomorrow, so that should make a big difference. I also want to get some more waxy maize and maybe some casein. I'm going to give that new maximize a try, loved v2 and this version looks pretty legit.
Just want to note I have close to no libido right now, but I think that might have a bit to do with my lack of energy. Between the physical exertion and trying to start up my own test production at the same time is leaving me feeling pretty depleted.
07-07-2012, 02:08 AM
My workouts are getting a little better and I think recovery is picking up. Ordered mcts cause they didn't have em at the shop I get everything from.
07-08-2012, 09:27 PM
Weight is up, same with energy and recovery, but libido still sucks. Not that I can't perform, just no desire. I'm still getting mean morning wood, which makes it weird. Still getting bad acne flare ups, but it seems to be spacing out and getting better. I look leaner and more vascular so I think I'm recomping well. Also the pain in my joints is going away.
Now I wanna talk about mt2: I will post pictures but I am far darker than I have ever been and in 2 weeks flat. I've been dosing 250mcg every morning, now I'm dosing M/W/F cause I don't want to get much darker(especially in the face). I have a lot of friends asking if I've been tanning and I just say its excessive sun exposure cause of work.
07-09-2012, 02:01 AM
Hahah getting too brown?? That's scarry, I think I'd turn black on the stuffOriginally Posted by smash1904
07-09-2012, 02:02 AM
07-09-2012, 04:04 AM
Haha ya my face is getting way to dark, I don't know how to slow it down so the rest of my body can catch up... Sunscreen? Wearing a hat? If it gets much darker I may drop it to once a week dosing next week.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-09-2012, 04:07 AM
Mcts are medium chain triglycerideds, which means fast absorb fat that is more readily used as energy rather than stored as fat. I'm hoping I'll start gaining weight again with it being added to my shakes.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Ah, gotcha. Thanks brotha, sounds good.Originally Posted by smash1904
I have no idea how to get the body to catch up to your face color. I'd say maybe try to layout with your face covered once a week.
07-10-2012, 12:21 AM
I've been covering my head in a tanning bed to try and even it out, but I think the uv rays still go through my shirt. I think I need a high spf cream to put on darker spots.Originally Posted by Jahcuree
07-10-2012, 02:12 AM
If you have a rash guard, they are usually 100% uv protection. Try that over your face if you have one.Originally Posted by smash1904
07-10-2012, 08:14 PM
hey, i started my test cycle, what did you recommend to help develop my chest, was it MFG. i rember it has a really short half life, and id half to freeze it.
07-11-2012, 03:19 AM
07-11-2012, 03:34 AM
There is mgf and mgf peg, and then igf des and igf lr3. Regular mgf/igf des has a 5 min? halflife, where as mgf peg/igf lr3 is something like a 24 hours halflife. Mgf will increase satellite cells, but without igf those cells won't really turn into muscle cells, or not as well? Igf will use up all the satellite cells pretty quickly, so you can make it more efficacious by cycling between the two(I've been thinking one week mgf peg followed by a week of igf lr3 and repeating) or by taking them at the same time. The timing is pretty important: mgf 1 hour after workout igf 12 hours after mgf(which is how your body naturally works I guess). I think need regular mgf to use in conjunction with the igf lr3, although you can use igf des as well. Using the mgf peg will compete with igf which is why you want something like 24 hours between uses, so there are ways of working that too. Igf stays effective for 4 weeks before needing to take 2-4 weeks off.Originally Posted by csa2179
07-11-2012, 03:24 PM
So the last couple nights I've been waking up at about 5 in the morning and having trouble going back to sleep - I'm awake and refreshed, ready to start the day. I force myself back to sleep cause 5 hours of sleep can't possibly be enough, can it?
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