1. Maybe I misinterpreted the info, but I thought ghrp solo 3x a day was comparable to that figure and the addition of cjc was an even greater amount of gh. But that's what I'm saying there was a list of equivalent exogenous gh numbers that said with cjc at saturation and ghrp at a quarter or a third that the pulse was actually greater than with ghrp at saturation. Wasn't able to verify that though. But I feel great on ghrp without cjc, so I'm getting kinda excited about the idea of throwing cjc in.

2. oh yeah man its beautiful. just watch out for anxiety. I have noticed a little increase.
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3. What I read was that GHRP-6 @ 1mcg/kg was equivalent to 1.4-1.8iu of GH injection. So doing that three times per day (since GHRP is in and out in 3 hours time) we can make an assumption of something like 4.2-5.4iu of GH is comparable to GHRP-6 3 times per day.

With CJC in the picture, all we know is each injection can go upwards of 2iu/day. For realistic assumptions sake, I'd say we could expect a 4-8iu/day effect from the GHRP/GHRH combo - and that number greatly depends on genetics, age and ability of one's pituitary gland to dish out that kind of GH. Either way, I'm doing it because I can feel and see the difference.

4. Originally Posted by fueledpassion
What I read was that GHRP-6 @ 1mcg/kg was equivalent to 1.4-1.8iu of GH injection. So doing that three times per day (since GHRP is in and out in 3 hours time) we can make an assumption of something like 4.2-5.4iu of GH is comparable to GHRP-6 3 times per day.

With CJC in the picture, all we know is each injection can go upwards of 2iu/day. For realistic assumptions sake, I'd say we could expect a 4-8iu/day effect from the GHRP/GHRH combo - and that number greatly depends on genetics, age and ability of one's pituitary gland to dish out that kind of GH. Either way, I'm doing it because I can feel and see the difference.
That's a valid assumption man. If you see results and no negative sides then may as well. Is it possible to get lab work done to see what the effect is? When would you dose around the test to get the most accurate result? About an hour or 2 before?

5. I dont know. I need someone like PA to give advice or instruction on performing this. I'm getting a full male hormone panel done in a few weeks to verify t-levels, thyroid health, cholesterol and IGF-1 levels...
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6. Originally Posted by fueledpassion
I dont know. I need someone like PA to give advice or instruction on performing this. I'm getting a full male hormone panel done in a few weeks to verify t-levels, thyroid health, cholesterol and IGF-1 levels...
dat b has the research so I thought? yeah I wanna get my hormone level done too...

7. Originally Posted by fueledpassion
What I read was that GHRP-6 @ 1mcg/kg was equivalent to 1.4-1.8iu of GH injection. So doing that three times per day (since GHRP is in and out in 3 hours time) we can make an assumption of something like 4.2-5.4iu of GH is comparable to GHRP-6 3 times per day.

With CJC in the picture, all we know is each injection can go upwards of 2iu/day. For realistic assumptions sake, I'd say we could expect a 4-8iu/day effect from the GHRP/GHRH combo - and that number greatly depends on genetics, age and ability of one's pituitary gland to dish out that kind of GH. Either way, I'm doing it because I can feel and see the difference.
yes this is my understanding also.. I understood this before I was booted from dats website lol. and with that manfy units of gh going through. why wouldnt you take this stuff! lol I def would love to get my hans on some.generic hgh. just to compare..... some peopls stack somotrop w/ cjc. dont know the results though.

8. I dont have a mirror at my work so I cant really see my results.... Its always a surprise when I come back home off the boats. but I train late on these weeks at my docks gym. have back today, and will do some lunge challenge .

lunge challenge _ my goal is to be able to do lunges 200 yrds there and back with 45s. right now im doing 100 yrds. I realized its alot of endurance lol. im recovering from knee injury and they are almost no pain at all unless I twist awkwardly.... I want my legs back so well see!

diet has been high fat and low carbs at work. had home cooked wings today. celery, and carrots. salad last night with grilled chicken and two protein shakes.
still pinning twice a day on peps.... week three on tren... hard as a rock!

9. workout was ok. I made the mistake of eating chicken breast and half a cucumber.... it took forever to digest. so I justt stuck ro simple lifts. if I was to do lunges I would of hurled lol

10. not gaining any real weight. def getting bigger in size though. im still 180. ill bust out measurements and getting real close to pct. one more week. cycle has been fun but the whole goal is to try to keep all gains. which I guess would be judged through measurements.
the peptides are supposed to put out insilin which then matures new muscle. so it should be permanent.

workout was ok. I made the mistake of eating chicken breast and half a cucumber.... it took forever to digest. so I justt stuck ro simple lifts. if I was to do lunges I would of hurled lol
Haha I hear you there, I always have stuff in my stomach when I workout and frequently feels like its about to come up.

not gaining any real weight. def getting bigger in size though. im still 180. ill bust out measurements and getting real close to pct. one more week. cycle has been fun but the whole goal is to try to keep all gains. which I guess would be judged through measurements.
the peptides are supposed to put out insilin which then matures new muscle. so it should be permanent.
Yup, I been stuck at 195 for like a week, but I look bigger too. Pct should be pretty smooth with the peptides.

13. Originally Posted by smash1904

Yup, I been stuck at 195 for like a week, but I look bigger too. Pct should be pretty smooth with the peptides.
im thinkin so to. I still gotta get some lean extreme. anti cortisol

14. Originally Posted by smash1904

Haha I hear you there, I always have stuff in my stomach when I workout and frequently feels like its about to come up.
yeah man it was nothing heavy just chicken grilled and fresh cucumber... sat like a rock!

15. Originally Posted by smash1904
Yup, I been stuck at 195 for like a week, but I look bigger too. Pct should be pretty smooth with the peptides.
This has been the case for me as well. I'm eating well, looking much leaner (on day 15 or so now) and strength is still climbing even in PCT but the scale still reads relatively the same.

16. Originally Posted by fueledpassion

This has been the case for me as well. I'm eating well, looking much leaner (on day 15 or so now) and strength is still climbing even in PCT but the scale still reads relatively the same.
yeH calories are there.... I wonder what will push past that? is it genetics? if so arent igf and hgh/peptides supposed to change genetics?

17. well, I don't think so. Consider peptides as reaching the 100% genetic potential rather than actually pressing you passed your genetics. The reason I say that is because no matter how much GHRP/GHRH you pump into your body, the pituitary is only gonna do what the pituitary is able to do. Some people might be able to pump out 10iu's worth of GH per day on peptides while others may only be able to generate 2-3 iu's..

GHRP/GHRH work in an endogenous fashion rather than exogenous. I believe if taken with steroids you could reach size, strength and leanness that your body never would have achieved without it BUT that doesn't mean that your DNA has been "altered". It just means that you've effectively approached that 100% potential of your DNA. For whatever reason, as we age our pituitary starts reducing GH production along with Testosterone, etc etc. So far, TRT has been the obvious answer for most men (and women) who want to be stronger, leaner and have a greater ability to heal muscle and bone injuries as well. I see GH peptides as the solution to GH deficiencies in the near future for this same demographic currently utilizing TRT. Granted, it's just an attempt at living forever but also super healthy like you were at 18. it won't work but in the end it will make us American's freakin huge and strong and confident - even at 60+ ages.

18. Originally Posted by fueledpassion
well, I don't think so. Consider peptides as reaching the 100% genetic potential rather than actually pressing you passed your genetics. The reason I say that is because no matter how much GHRP/GHRH you pump into your body, the pituitary is only gonna do what the pituitary is able to do. Some people might be able to pump out 10iu's worth of GH per day on peptides while others may only be able to generate 2-3 iu's..

GHRP/GHRH work in an endogenous fashion rather than exogenous. I believe if taken with steroids you could reach size, strength and leanness that your body never would have achieved without it BUT that doesn't mean that your DNA has been "altered". It just means that you've effectively approached that 100% potential of your DNA. For whatever reason, as we age our pituitary starts reducing GH production along with Testosterone, etc etc. So far, TRT has been the obvious answer for most men (and women) who want to be stronger, leaner and have a greater ability to heal muscle and bone injuries as well. I see GH peptides as the solution to GH deficiencies in the near future for this same demographic currently utilizing TRT. Granted, it's just an attempt at living forever but also super healthy like you were at 18. it won't work but in the end it will make us American's freakin huge and strong and confident - even at 60+ ages.
yeH this is what I thought too... im a family line of string beans.... i think im the biggest and baddest of my family line lol. igf might be the addition. I wanna be 200 dangit! & not fat lol

19. maybe even test and tren a..... hardcore stack.... im afraid of tren a though.... heard you feel like pure crap....

20. im sry I have been slacking on the meal pictures ill post one tonight of my faMous hobo spaghetti!

21. ah I couldnt wait. this is my hobo spaghetti, has everything in it. no pasta yet. just ground beef, 3 lbs worth. zuchini, squash, onion, bellpepper, three whole tomatoes, can of fire roasted tomatoes, can of corn, mushrooms, and ground jimmy dean sausage hott!

ill be eating it without noodles. so I can keep my carbs low. cant wait!!! this stuff makes awsome soup too!

22. ^^^ looks good man.

Regarding Tren, I'd see what you can do with just different variations of Test and other weaker, but quality androgens like Masteron, EQ, Deca, atc. Personally, my regime is now just Test, Mast and SD.

23. Originally Posted by fueledpassion
^^^ looks good man.

Regarding Tren, I'd see what you can do with just different variations of Test and other weaker, but quality androgens like Masteron, EQ, Deca, atc. Personally, my regime is now just Test, Mast and SD.
masteron I have heard very nice things about. I loved how test e made me feel. its been a while since ive ran aas. cant wait to get some... but def a while from now.

24. Keep the food pic's coming Madd. Loven em
TrenA hurt more than prop. Never got sick. Just hurt and got ANGRY strenght.
Like you log man
Peps(Imp+1-29 for me 300mg each ED) Is the only way i can truly keep strenght+weight in pct and after. Gotta love em.
FYI GWP is havn a great 30off this wkend code is 30
30% off total order anything in the store I Fin stocked up Wish they made 5mg 1-29 also
Good luck keep shuvelin the food.

25. Originally Posted by Neoamerican
Keep the food pic's coming Madd. Loven em
TrenA hurt more than prop. Never got sick. Just hurt and got ANGRY strenght.
Like you log man
Peps(Imp+1-29 for me 300mg each ED) Is the only way i can truly keep strenght+weight in pct and after. Gotta love em.
FYI GWP is havn a great 30off this wkend code is 30
30% off total order anything in the store I Fin stocked up Wish they made 5mg 1-29 also
Good luck keep shuvelin the food.
You know, I'm having awesome luck keeping my gains and strength in PCT as well. I contribute it solely to peptides too since it's the only thing that has changed this cycle versus the previous ones...

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