IGF-1 Information Here!
- 06-09-2004, 06:31 PM
- 06-09-2004, 07:29 PM
I am currently doing and IGF cycle alone...never done AAS(well M1t, and M5aa), and can tell you that the results are valid..good pumps, overall good feeling, muscle bellies full...site injections are a winner...until last night I had only shot my left delt becasue I am right handed, and after taking a look the other day left delt was maybe a little bigger, but the quality of the muscle was significantly better.Most injects have been in quads...my quads are pumped, and I am getting striations where I never had them before.I am also leaning out pretty good.My product came reconsituted in BA.
I am sure that being the fragile substance it is, there are probably different was to reconstitue,and different ways of handleing and I have heard alot on it from some of the most upstanding people in the community.It is expensive, and the results are not shocking, but more of quality, and makes and excellent off cycle choice as well.
I think a main factor is that this compound is still in a infintile state, and has some extremely excellent possibilities, without the harshness that one can get with AAS.
at least this has been my expirence so far..
- 08-12-2004, 08:25 PM
Does the statement below that BOBO made original still hold true, if so why is Muscle-Reseach selling it diluted?
Any form of IGF is ONLY supplied in a lyphosized form, which means a dry powder state. NEVER PUCHASE PRE-DILUTED LIQUID IGF!!!! There is no such product made anywhere in the world and even if there were real IGF ever present in the vial it would all be dead by the time you receive it. IGF is a very delicate peptide and must be diluted by yourself, where you have access to a refrigerator and freezer. There has also been a lot of talk by certain sources claiming to have IGF made by the Eli Lilly company, to clear things up Lilly is a pharmaceutical company and as stated IGF is a research drug and has not yet been approved, Lilly does not and never has manufactured research drugs for retail sale.
Muscle-Research sells IGF1 Long R3. Not the same as regular IGF1
do u really have to fill it up w/bw if u r using u-100 slins? or can u just do 40mcg of lr3 by itself?
Prolly not, but i usually fill my syringe with about 1/4 to 1/2 cc just to make sure i inject all the IGF in. Otherwise, there's gonna be some left over in the syringe.
Reconstitution is different than suspending for the sake of preservation as Matthew stated. Granted that BA was not the best solution for preservation but it did the job well. Acetic Acid is supposed to be better due to it's PH, i believe that this may be the reason that MR is now using AA instead of BA.Originally Posted by jcam222
Anyone mixed it w/b12 instead of BW? Is it a good idea?
igf-1 in acetic acid
Will anyone share their opinions and/or past results about long r3igf-1 already mixed with acetic acid? I recently purchased a mg. online but am pondering the whole 'premixed' thing. What's the deal, is it real or is it a waste of money?
Nullifidian- if you read the paragraph before the one quoted by flexster you would have realized that the author was in fact referring to the long r-3 version of IGF-1.
"For the rest of this article when I say IGF I am now referring to Long R3 IGF-1 for simplicity sake."
So........what is your defense now, or anyone elses' for that matter?
Easy there tiger.Originally Posted by EDNhoss12
Defense to what???
sorry, just getting a little frustrated w/ this.
seems everybody is conflicted w/ this. I've read numerous times that BA can degrade the IGF, and everyone that opposes this idea cannot back it up w/ something. Anyway, I'm just eager to use this stuff w/ my cycle and just want to learn more about the product I'll be purchasing. Thankx crowler.
If you're purchasing your IGF from MR then you don't have to worry cuz they are now using AA instead of BA.
There have been alot of bros on this board and on others that purchased IGF with BA and got good results so why are you sweating this??
haven't spoken w/ many users of MR's product, but that's good to know. Thankx
How do yall get 40 mcg's out if it is 1mg/ml....that is a very small amount. And is it necessary to fill the entire slin pin up with bw or could you fill it half way?
please help me (lr3igf-1)
Hi bobo, I notice you are very knowledgeable regarding lr3igf-1 and I’m new to all this and I like to try it out
I know were to get it, but I don't have the slightest idea how to inject it or were, can you illustrated me?
What do you recommend for a beginner? I think I’m a good candidate for testing the lr3igf-1 Thanks...
Inject it w/an insulin pin. Pull your desired amount fill the rest of the pin w/bacteriostatic water and inject into the desired muscle. Usually you want to inject postworkout into the muscle that was just worked. 40-50 mcg's ed is a good place for anyone to start.
P.S. There is a **** ton of info on this topic in this forum. Try reading through the threads as i'm sure they'll answer any questions you may have.
Bro, if you would have just used the search button, you would have found a hundred posts saying the exact same thing as what Sticks just said and you wouldn't have looked like such a noob.Originally Posted by jaxsys
Thanks for the reply sticks; and positive thinking, unlike others...
So in a full body workout, I take 40 mcg and inject every muscle with the same pin?
And if so, how do I determine the amount that each muscle gets?
No. If you're working bis, divide up the shots evenly, 20 mcg each, using two syringes/needles. I would not recommend pinning more than one set of muscles bilaterally in connection with each workout. But if you're going that route, just divide each shot evenly. YOu might also consider bumping the dosage a bit. I actually like doing mine pre-workout because of the tremendous pump I get when I'm at the gym, but the consensus on this board is that pinning after a workout is most effective for growth.Originally Posted by jaxsys
Originally Posted by einstein1905
I wonder if the use of advandia for receptor "sensitivity" is a possibility for longer cycle results.
I have been running 50mcg ed for a week now, I got some extra AA from MR and added 1 extra cc to the vial.. I have been running .5iu(100mcg total) bi laterally after workouts. I honestly haven't noticed anything posative, or negative at this point..
what size needles are you guys using for the MR IGF-1 ?
slin pins bro (1cc syringes, .5" needle made for insulin sub-q injections)Originally Posted by cretinx
so 29/30 gauge?Originally Posted by D_town
thanks a lot.
si senorOriginally Posted by cretinx
I realize that Bobo states that for a first time user you should only use 40-50mcg a day. Why is this. I have read on other boards and spoken to people who have used IGF-1 and researched it extensively and they seem to believe the best dosing protocal to be 1 mcg/kg bodyweight.
COuld someone please explain to me why Bobo chooses this dosing and what are IGF-1 sides from high dosing?
i just started my igf cycle i am doing 40 mcg a day i added 4 extra cc of AA so my shots are 200 mcg of solution
i am doing sub q shots , but i would like to pin into my biceps when i workout them any specifics how to do biceps injections
im looking for sources of purchase. any ideas? help is appreciated,
Take the time and search the board.Originally Posted by preston25
Seriously, quit being a lazy azz and search.Originally Posted by preston25
Originally Posted by preston25
First off, you're lucky sponsors here sell IGF-1, or your ass would be banned faster than you can say "NO SOURCE POSTING".
Second, stop being a lazy POS and take a look at the board sponsors.
I'm glad you guys werent this harsh with me!! Much love brothers!
PS: I got all my needles and needed materials in today to reconsitute the IGF. Wish my luck on having enough AA. I think I will be ok, one of the AA bottles is filled almost full, while the other is half and the last is nearly nothing. It might even out.
I'll let you know in my post what happns. If all goes well, I start my cycle monday after a schedule out all my supp intake and workout regemin.
Thanks guys (you know who you are) who helped my stubborn, deaf, dumb, and retarded ass in my post.
Would GH be better than IGF-1lr3 for strength for an endurance athlete. ?
Its my understanding that most users of GH dont see significant results from it with short term use ... it is something you would want to run long term to really get the benifits from hGH. That is just my understanding, though. I dont know much about GH other than that.Originally Posted by preston25
IGF would probably be a better alternative depending on your goals. Which are what again? Just curious?
I've only been pinning IGF for a couple days now, not even two weeks, and I'm down in BF (noticably) and up 6lbs. I didnt expect to see results like this at all given the fact that IGF is non-hormonal (not AAS so to speak). I'm also only using 40mcg ED with minimal gym time (I've been sick).
Just my .2 cents,
Im a cyclist. Yeah ive gained 4 lbs in the first week and i dont lift on a weekly bases. This stuff is crazy. I have also lost all my veins in my legs. I thought i wouls get more cut. Whats up with that?
Weird ... I remember you saying something about this in another post. I personally have no idea why you lost vascularity. Take another look at your diet. You mentioned AAS, have you jumped into a cycle and just havent said anything about it?Originally Posted by preston25
Someone else will have to answer that one for you buddy. Best of luck to you.
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