[drveejay11]

JohnnyB + Einstein aka THE BAD ASS IGF-1 Brothers

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by drveejay11

JohnnyB + Einstein aka THE BAD ASS IGF-1 Brothers

LOL I'm still learning

JohnnyB

[Grant]

Have there been any studies showing negative effects on the heart?

[steveo]

Can you mix the powder form IGF-1 LR3 with BA or not then? Some say it destroys the IGF-1LR3 and some dont. Most places that sell the liquid version sell it mixed with Benzyl Alcohol.

[sikdogg]

Yes, you can and should mix it with BA otherwise how are you going to dose the powder accurately.

[steveo]

skidddog, they say that mixing it with BA would kill or weaken the IGF-1 as its not the going solvent for IGF-1 LR3, this is just from posts that i read. IM trying to find out the truth however. I've been hearing more and more that LR3IGF-1 can not in fact be properly suspended in Benzyl Alcohol but most suppliers sell in already mixed in BA. It supposedly looses potency and degrades when in BA. and that it should be mixed in some sort of acetic acid or hydrochloride solution.

Anyone that can help out on this please do so, so i can clear things up for myself.

[Matthew D]

this is the debate that has been going on.. personally, I don't see where suspending it in an acid would help to preserve it. I do know that we have had several people use IGF-1LR3 suspended in BA that have had results and from what I understand (I haven't actually seen the paper) that suspension in BA is the correct way for storage to move it from the manufacter. Just wondering, who is the "they" you are talking about?

[steveo]

Originally Posted by Matthew D

this is the debate that has been going on.. personally, I don't see where suspending it in an acid would help to preserve it. I do know that we have had several people use IGF-1LR3 suspended in BA that have had results and from what I understand (I haven't actually seen the paper) that suspension in BA is the correct way for storage to move it from the manufacter. Just wondering, who is the "they" you are talking about?

"They" are other members that claim they know the way IGF-1 LR3 works and the strains that are involved and that using BA will weaken and even make some of the strains useless, which then gives you a weakened or usless IGF-1 LR3. Their are so many mixed reviews that I would not want to waste my money trying it until i knew for sure what its good with.

[jcam222]

Have any of you ever read the instructions for reconstitution on Gropeps website? I thought I had seen exerpts of it posted at one point that did refer to a certain PH requirement to prevent degradation of the peptide...........

[riskarb]

http://www.gropep.com.au/index.php/article/view/81/1/50

[Matthew D]

the instructions posted are talking about reconstitution.. and if you are thinking you are wasting your money, then all I can say is don't buy and go see if you can get it from GroPep and see what they say...

[willieman]

I am currently doing and IGF cycle alone...never done AAS(well M1t, and M5aa), and can tell you that the results are valid..good pumps, overall good feeling, muscle bellies full...site injections are a winner...until last night I had only shot my left delt becasue I am right handed, and after taking a look the other day left delt was maybe a little bigger, but the quality of the muscle was significantly better.Most injects have been in quads...my quads are pumped, and I am getting striations where I never had them before.I am also leaning out pretty good.My product came reconsituted in BA.
I am sure that being the fragile substance it is, there are probably different was to reconstitue,and different ways of handleing and I have heard alot on it from some of the most upstanding people in the community.It is expensive, and the results are not shocking, but more of quality, and makes and excellent off cycle choice as well.
I think a main factor is that this compound is still in a infintile state, and has some extremely excellent possibilities, without the harshness that one can get with AAS.

at least this has been my expirence so far..

[flexster]

Does the statement below that BOBO made original still hold true, if so why is Muscle-Reseach selling it diluted?



Any form of IGF is ONLY supplied in a lyphosized form, which means a dry powder state. NEVER PUCHASE PRE-DILUTED LIQUID IGF!!!! There is no such product made anywhere in the world and even if there were real IGF ever present in the vial it would all be dead by the time you receive it. IGF is a very delicate peptide and must be diluted by yourself, where you have access to a refrigerator and freezer. There has also been a lot of talk by certain sources claiming to have IGF made by the Eli Lilly company, to clear things up Lilly is a pharmaceutical company and as stated IGF is a research drug and has not yet been approved, Lilly does not and never has manufactured research drugs for retail sale.

[Nullifidian]

Muscle-Research sells IGF1 Long R3. Not the same as regular IGF1

[LittleMonster]

do u really have to fill it up w/bw if u r using u-100 slins? or can u just do 40mcg of lr3 by itself?

[sikdogg]

Prolly not, but i usually fill my syringe with about 1/4 to 1/2 cc just to make sure i inject all the IGF in. Otherwise, there's gonna be some left over in the syringe.

[sikdogg]

Originally Posted by jcam222

Have any of you ever read the instructions for reconstitution on Gropeps website? I thought I had seen exerpts of it posted at one point that did refer to a certain PH requirement to prevent degradation of the peptide...........

Reconstitution is different than suspending for the sake of preservation as Matthew stated. Granted that BA was not the best solution for preservation but it did the job well. Acetic Acid is supposed to be better due to it's PH, i believe that this may be the reason that MR is now using AA instead of BA.

[LittleMonster]

Originally Posted by sikdogg

Prolly not, but i usually fill my syringe with about 1/4 to 1/2 cc just to make sure i inject all the IGF in. Otherwise, there's gonna be some left over in the syringe.

gotcha,thx