I'm running Epistane/Havoc for 8 weeks. Havoc for the first 4 weeks, and then a bottle of Epistane.
Here's the blog: Havoc Blog
I start tomorrow!!!
Here's the blog: Havoc Blog
I start tomorrow!!!
Thank you and I'll keep you updated.great connection man
I'm going mo make the same in septemper, let us know about progress
good luck
Dosage is 20/30/40/40/40 (and it might go to 6 weeks).Whats your dosage for this cycle going to be like?
Just wondering why you are/were taking doses immediately after your workout? Has this proven to be effective for you?I always assumed it was kinda pointless. ne way good log so far.keep it up:head: :head: :head: :head: :head:
I have not had any such feelings. Maybe you're extra sensitive to it in some way? And yes, I am dosing every day.I assume you're dosing ED? Also, have you noticed any warm feeling or almost flush feeling after your dose?
I may be sensative to this compound but I noticed a warm feeling about 45 min to 1h after dose, and accelerated sweating off days (currently doing pulse cycle).
I see, my mistake. I just thought you were taking it right before and right after.I'm not dosing post workout, unless I work out in the middle of the day. Since the half life of the compound is 5-6 hours, I take 20mg pre workout and then 10 or 20 post.
Since I bumped to 40mg just for one day (to test how it felt), I took 20mg in the morning, then 20mg about 4-5 hours later, and then worked out. I think it's best to have your full daily dose prior to the workout, if possible.
I was taking it pre and post, but that was only on the days where my workout fell in the middle of the day.I see, my mistake. I just thought you were taking it right before and right after.
I was taking it pre and post, but that was only on the days where my workout fell in the middle of the day.
To clarify, from now on, I'm going to take 20mg at 10 A.M. and 10 or 20 mg at 3:30 P.M. and work out from about 5-6:30.
Everything is great, minus the slight double chin. lolsounds like things are working out. thats great hopefully my epi run with phera will be just as good
Lot number?What's the lot number on your Havoc? Just wanna check.
Also, are you noticing any signs of shutdown yet?
Just checkin. I seem to be overly sensitive to this compound. Just wanted to check to see if it might just be a more potent batch, but mine is the same lot num.Lot: 23D307
Why do you ask?
What's it doing to you?Just checkin. I seem to be overly sensitive to this compound. Just wanted to check to see if it might just be a more potent batch, but mine is the same lot num.
Get crazy sweats and body-temp changes. Though I don't get any of the other sides like back pumps or dry joints. Only other side I can say I noticed was some oily skin and a couple more zits.What's it doing to you?
Wow, I've gotten away with 50 mg without problems...Get crazy sweats and body-temp changes. Though I don't get any of the other sides like back pumps or dry joints. Only other side I can say I noticed was some oily skin and a couple more zits.
Also I should note that those "bad sides" come at 20mg doses. I can't even go up to 30mg
The strength gains on it are def. sick. went up 40lbs in rows the first week. Next time though I think i might stack it with phera for some size since I can't go very high on the havoc anyways.Wow, I've gotten away with 50 mg without problems...
I do get some back pumps, but I kind of like them.
The best side for me so far has been the ability to bench 275.
A freaking 70 lb increase....:think:
Great progress man. Keep it up.Weight: 188 lbs (+13 lbs)
Thanks buddy.Great progress man. Keep it up.
If you feel fine, go for it. 5-6 weeks is a pretty long standard cycle, but it has been done before. Nolva should bring everything back for you. I wouldn't be too worried about significant shutdown unless you start feeling emotionally/physically funny. If you do go for 5 or 6 weeks nolva should probably be 40/40/20/20.Day 28
post cycle therapy will begin as soon as I have all of the products. I've got Nolva here now, more liver support stuff, as well as Carbolin-19 and a natural test booster...however, I ordered Retain 2 and 6-oxo to clamp down on cortisol and recover the HPTA.
So I should get to post cycle therapy by the end of the week (Friday) or I might continue to dose at 40 mg a day until day 35 to make it a full 5 weeks on. I'll just go by how I feel.
Really? I'm comin up on 3rd week and I can tell some definite bf loss. What was your starting bf%?One thing is for sure; I have not lost fat while taking this compound.
I just named this a Havoc/Epistane blog because at the time, I was going to use Epistane but ended up buying Havoc and Epidrol instead. If I run this compound again, I'm going to go with Epistane next time.Have you decided to just take Havoc for the 5 weeks and save the Epistane for another time?...sorry just a little confused. Your progress looks great, and this log has helped answer alot of questions so far, thanks.
I would dose everything pre-workout. I felt the best when I did that and combined it with 3 caps of RPM, pre-workout. When I went up to 30 and 40 mg, I did 20 mg about an hour pre workout, and then the rest half an hour later (half hour, pwo).Hello everyone I am new here, but I have read these posts and followed ur progress. Then I decided to buy some Havoc for myself. I am 21 years old. I am 6 feet tall. I weigh 188 pounds and have a max bench of 265. I am going to start this product in about 4 days, but I need to know how to take it. I have experience with products like this. I have taken Superdrol in the past. I work out everyday at 11 so when should I take the first dosage and when should i take the second one? Thanks for ur help. I will keep u guys posted.
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