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    Abliderate Advanced vs Eviscerate Smoulder.


    If you had to choose between the two, which would you use to unsheathe abs. I understand that one is for subcutaneous fat while the other is for VAT but how would you discern? I have read that not being able to perform an ab vacuum indicates VAT, is that true? I'm under the impression that at one point I was pre-diabetic (faaaaat kid).


    Would you say I have VAT? I will be doing a log after acquiring either or.

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    Eviscerate will theoretically help reveal your abdominal muscles more, BUT I would opt for abliderate advanced. It is, in my opinion, a superior formula, and anecdotally, I've noticed better benefits with the AA. Also, weirdly enough, I feel that AA didn't affect my VAT too greatly but decreased subcutaneous fat quite a bit.

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    I'm going to use both. Application of Abliderate Advanced first with Eviscerate on immediately following, actually hoping the Abliderate carrier helps absorption of the Evisc a bit, but who knows (also applying the Evisc to pecs).

    I haven't got a chance to use AA yet, but I'm a huge fan of Abliderate and Eviscerate. VAT is the underneath fat while SAT is the stuff you can pinch.

    From the picture I'd say Eviscerate, but Coop's used both and is quite knowledgeable so his words mean quite a bit here. I haven't had a chance to use the AA yet (just getting ready to).

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    Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I'm going to use both. Application of Abliderate Advanced first with Eviscerate on immediately following, actually hoping the Abliderate carrier helps absorption of the Evisc a bit, but who knows (also applying the Evisc to pecs).

    I haven't got a chance to use AA yet, but I'm a huge fan of Abliderate and Eviscerate. VAT is the underneath fat while SAT is the stuff you can pinch.

    From the picture I'd say Eviscerate, but Coop's used both and is quite knowledgeable so his words mean quite a bit here. I haven't had a chance to use the AA yet (just getting ready to).
    You will really enjoy it. It is so much more than just topical 7-keto.

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You will really enjoy it. It is so much more than just topical 7-keto.
    Yeah I'm pretty much starting this Monday. I'm also interested to see how the combination of the two every morning works (AA and Evisc). I know Dsade has said he has used them both before to great results.

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    Many thanks ill be picking up a bottle of AA this week
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    Additional question if you can, what's your take on tta + fish oil, and would it have any negative sides with glycobol? Concerns being with tta I'd assume i should have more fats but with glycobol i shouldn't?
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    Additional question if you can, what's your take on tta + fish oil, and would it have any negative sides with glycobol? Concerns being with tta I'd assume i should have more fats but with glycobol i shouldn't?
    I'm not sure what you're getting at. There's no negative interaction.

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    Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    I'm not sure what you're getting at. There's no negative interaction.
    I was just under the impression that tta worked better in an omega 3/6 rich environment
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    I was just under the impression that tta worked better in an omega 3/6 rich environment
    Your diet should be rich in those anyway so...yeah

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    I'm currently using both -- 26 days out from my show. The AA REALLY helped get the waistline down (see my earlier posts), and I love the E. as I get further toward my goal.

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    . . . as you see, I have some issues with excess skin left over from when I was obese, but things are coming in.

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    what fantastic results! Anything you can do about the excess skin or is surgery pretty much the only option?

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    Im amazed, great work. Thank you i will definitely be picking up AA and e later when i have more money
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    Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    what fantastic results! Anything you can do about the excess skin or is surgery pretty much the only option?
    I'm working on the problem. I have some promising directions.

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    Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    what fantastic results! Anything you can do about the excess skin or is surgery pretty much the only option?
    damn.. if he can do something about that.. that would be unreal!
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    Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    damn.. if he can do something about that.. that would be unreal!
    Completely agree. My older brother (and a friend) both lost a lot of fat before and struggled with some hanging skin issues. Sucks to see people dominate fat loss and have something like that going on that may require surgery. I wouldn't put much past Matt given his results so interested to see what he has cooking!

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    Hey dsade when will AA be shipping out.
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    Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Look for a restock of Abliderate Advanced next week.
    From another thread and posted last Friday (3-30)

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    I noticed a skin-tightening effect during both my abliderate advanced runs so I have a feeling dsade will have this taken care of.

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