What kind of pets do you have?
- 06-06-2008, 10:08 AM
- 06-06-2008, 10:26 AM
I have a 3 year old pure bred blue doberman, he's about 95 lbs and tall but he has a pretty blocky head for a dobie. He (edit)has gone after smaller dogs and he killed 1 cat and numerous opossums, raccoons, birds, etc etc. He is extremely protective of my wife (thats why I got him). Very cautious around people, I dont let anyone in the house - Instead I bring out the dog to meet them outside of "his turf." Very friendly with people once he gets to know them. He is pretty neurotic (i've never had a dobie that wasnt, or seen one that wasnt) and goofy. He is overly affectionate which pisses me off but my wife loves it. He likes to hug, its really bizarre.. he'll come up and put his arms around you and lay his head on you for as long as you'll let him. He's been difficult to train - I adopted him at a 1.5 yr old and he was a guard dog and was abused pretty bad. I dont recommend anyone get a dobie unless they understand animal behavior and have experience training dominant/aggressive dogs. He has major abandonment issues as he was adopted and brought back many times due to training difficulties. He whines a lot because of it which is annoying but its not something Ive been able to break
I also have a red doberman/terrier mix. She is 50 lbs and she is a beautiful dog. She was also adopted, they fixed her unfortunately b/c i'd love to breed her. She is brilliant and has the best temperment of any dog i've ever seen.
PS - I hate pits from personal experiences. I've had to shoot 2 of them - one on my property and one of them attacked my little dog while I had her on a walk. Too many irresponsible idiots buy them b/c they think they are 'cool.' Same goes for presas et al.
- 06-06-2008, 10:35 AM
A gunslinger/dog walker? j/k I won't judge you since I wasn't there but I would only shoot an animal as a last resort. I hope there was more to the story than just 'on my property' for you to kill the dog.
06-06-2008, 11:49 AM
If a large, off-leash aggressive animal viciously attacked your leashed animal and you could not separate them using the standard means (punching, kicking, hitting with objects) would you just let your animal die? No, you wouldn't - you'd use whatever means possible. If the owner came out I might have had to shoot them too. Why? Because I live in the GHETTO. A-Holes here constantly ignore the laws and let their animals run wild. Many are large, aggressive pit bulls with no training that need to be put down, not let roam free... especially considering the amount of children in the neighborhood.
My dogs, which are always on leash (even on my property) have been attacked numerous times by pits. I do carry an Asp which will normally deter if not knock unconscious most of them. However, if that does not work then I do what I have to do. These attacks normally result in expensive vet bills ($300 or more) for ME.
My dogs ARE my CHILDREN and there is no way on earth I'd let one of them die without doing everything in my power in their defense.
06-06-2008, 12:33 PM
06-06-2008, 12:39 PM
06-06-2008, 01:42 PM
You construed that as bragging? Brilliant. Maybe if you read again (you can read... right?) - I'd hoped my original post would serve more as a warning to those considering dobermans and other aggressive breed dogs that are known to have high prey drives that are difficult to break.
Now I'm also bad for being a libertarian and defending our rights as set forth in the constitution.. you got all that from my avatar? I am impressed... Does my avatar offend you that much? If so you are living in the wrong country my boy.
I carry a pistol because it's my right. I carry an asp because I'm sick of walking my dogs and having ignorant a-holes with untrained aggressive dogs running out and attacking my dogs which are leashed and not doing any harm. Have you tried to pull a 70+ lb pit off another dog? Probably not.
Did I offend you for saying something negative about pit bulls? I am so sorry.
06-06-2008, 02:02 PM
Well if you have this happen often you should maybe buy a break stick. You put it behind the pits back teeth and turn it and it unlocks the dogs jaws. All the pits I've ever had were gentle and good with other dogs.
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06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
It's often enough for me to have bought an asp lol. I appreciate the link, I will look into the breaksticks.
The problem really lies with the people around here.. they get these dogs as status symbol and usually tie them out in their yard with speaker wire or something. The poor dogs are deprived of food half the time and they never receive any training (which pits love). They also lack socialization with other dogs which is a shame. I've got friends who have great pits, very friendly and social dogs FWIW
06-06-2008, 04:13 PM
I can't say i'm for shooting dogs. It's a shame that there are so many irresponsible people that own pit bulls. When I was 12 some guy shot my boxer right between his eye and snout. My dog was in my neighbors yard, across from where the guy lives and he shot him through the fence.
He said that my dog was "ramming" the fence in a vicious manner, but I know damn well that my boxer is the biggest puss on the face of the planet.
My pitbull I have now is 6 months old, so his behavior can change as he ages. However, he's very calm with kids and other animals. MY 4 year old nephew smacks him (not something I encourage, but he's a kid) and all my dog does is lick him.
My pug gets annoyed and chases my pit. I was walking him and a curious mastiff came to see what the big fuss was and all they did was smell each other, my dog just wanted to play.
I understand there's a lot of aggressive dogs, but it's all in how you raise them, some are stubborn and it's just in their blood. I'm sure there are other alternative to shooting a dog. They don't have the understanding that you do.
06-06-2008, 04:26 PM
06-06-2008, 05:31 PM
Keep it nice folks. Let us not turn a thread into something good as it was intended into a pissing match.
06-06-2008, 05:54 PM
Doberman's are some crazy dogs. My friend had one and I knew it well, then one night I was sleeping and it latched on to my arm. I managed to get it off of me, but it was basically in attack mode, so I slowly crept out of the house. Saw the thing a week later and it acted like it was my best friend. Not saying all Doberman's are crazy, just the ones I've encountered.
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
06-06-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm glad that you leash your dog, but it seems to be a danger. I imagine all the killings happened on your property? Please keep a close eye on your dog, it clearly wants to do damage. It would suck if it hurt someone/something and you ended up having to put him/her to sleep.
06-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Dobies dont live long so when he kicks the bucket I want to get an american bulldog or a german sheppard.
06-06-2008, 08:27 PM
06-06-2008, 09:36 PM
06-06-2008, 10:12 PM
06-06-2008, 10:20 PM
06-07-2008, 12:31 AM
U gotta post pics when u get her. A Corso is something to be proud of. There's a shelter by my house that had a whole litter of Presas dropped off there in december. I wanted one so bad.
06-07-2008, 01:16 AM
Tuesday is the appt to meet the pups. Not sure if I'll get one of these or put a deposit on one for their scheduled July litter
06-07-2008, 11:27 AM
06-07-2008, 05:21 PM
06-07-2008, 07:47 PM
06-07-2008, 08:02 PM
Obviously, if these attacks are often enough you have bought an ATP, your dog is involved. Now, do not construe this as your dog directly attacking another, but giving/feeding off negative energy, assuming dominance positions (that you did not recognize), and so on. I have never heard of one dog, or one individual, attacked so many times without provocation.
If your dog was a guard dog, he will more than likely assume aggressive positions/stances when out with you in public. The fact you did not, or cannot, recognize this and somebody else's pet was killed because of your ignorance is somewhat unfathomable. Provocation is obviously occurring, and you are not recognizing it - this is your fault.
Moral of the story:
Realize your dog does not fare well with other canines, and stop walking it where you may encounter them; hopefully, with this approach, we might avoid your Dirty Harry attitude and less dogs will be needlessly shot.
Cases like this make me glad purchasing a gun is harder than walking into Wal-Mart in Canada.
06-07-2008, 08:33 PM
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06-07-2008, 09:10 PM
06-07-2008, 09:19 PM
Has anybody owned, or known anybody who owned, those Bengal house cat breeds? They are pretty amazing.
06-07-2008, 09:53 PM
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