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  1. tattoopierced1
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    You gotta control that temper, especially for your child. I know it can be hard to do, but you HAVE to for you son. You sound like a decent guy that made a bad decision and have somewhat of a temper.. your ex knew this. Do what you can for your son, but most importantly, let petty fighting to the wayside...there is no point in it.


  2. Well, most people refuse to work at fastfood resturants because America has been way too kind to them thus far. McDonald's also has tuition reimbursement.

    Not to be a ****, but I am offering a solution to your problem as it stands. If something else comes along better then that's great, but McDonald's does offer benefits to full-time workers.

    Everyday that you do not work, you are losing out on what you could be making in that day. (Opportunity Cost....for all you econ. buffs).
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    hey man, that really blows, and it is so unfair the way guys get treated in the court of law. no matter what happens, its always the guys fault, even if the biitch slaps you over the head with a frying pan and shoots you, you go to jail for domestic abuse. Stupid court system. You should just hire someone to kick the **** out of the guy that she cheated with, kick his ass fight club style 'till he is unrecognizable, then sue him for harrasment. Now what to do with the BIITCH, hmmmm. Well, since the kid needs a mom, its hard to say I would really want to get her back some how., Maybe have "break up sex" and RAM her so hard that it destroys her Vag and she is unable to have another baby and then everytime she goes to take a wiz it will hurt, making her think of you. Or maybe take some high dose Clomid and pull a Blow Job Betty on her.

    Thank you TheMyth. This is incredible and brought a tear to my eye

  4. do your attorneys need to talk to each other. Have they done this.

    Any job is better than no job.

    No matter how angry you are you must stay out of trouble and follow the rules of your probation.

    It is great that you are looking to pay child support. Is there a way that you can get visitation rights as well. The sooner you start to have interaction with your son the more your anger may go away and you will start developing a special bond with your son. Do not pick your son up at your ex's alone as you should go with another person to make sure no conflict occurs.
  5. tattoopierced1
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    Quote Originally Posted by evankyle View Post
    do your attorneys need to talk to each other. Have they done this.

    Any job is better than no job.

    No matter how angry you are you must stay out of trouble and follow the rules of your probation.

    It is great that you are looking to pay child support. Is there a way that you can get visitation rights as well. The sooner you start to have interaction with your son the more your anger may go away and you will start developing a special bond with your son. Do not pick your son up at your ex's alone as you should go with another person to make sure no conflict occurs.
    record everything. Go out and buy a small personal recorder and any interaction you have with any of them, record.
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  6. I must say I'm biased on this one.

    But most important where you mention telling your son what has happened, I have 3 kids and am divorced. You have no right to burden your child with the sins of the mother. Your relationship failure has nothing to do with how she parents her son. Children deserve the right to love both parents without taking on your issues.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    You gotta control that temper, especially for your child. I know it can be hard to do, but you HAVE to for you son. You sound like a decent guy that made a bad decision and have somewhat of a temper.. your ex knew this. Do what you can for your son, but most importantly, let petty fighting to the wayside...there is no point in it.
    I agree with this! My ex took my kids from a babysitter and ran with them for almost 3 months. He would not let me talk to them or see them, all because he did not want to pay child support. My kids still have issues from this. But we get along now, the ex and I, at least for the kids sake.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    I must say I'm biased on this one.

    But most important where you mention telling your son what has happened, I have 3 kids and am divorced. You have no right to burden your child with the sins of the mother. Your relationship failure has nothing to do with how she parents her son. Children deserve the right to love both parents without taking on your issues.
    So true. "Mommy and Daddy didn't get along very well" is about all the kid needs to know.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Thank you TheMyth. This is incredible and brought a tear to my eye
    thanks man. I still think its the way to go. Megadose that clomid and bust that fatal nut Blow Job Betty style. You can't be held responsible if she willingly swallows!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    I agree with this! My ex took my kids from a babysitter and ran with them for almost 3 months. He would not let me talk to them or see them, all because he did not want to pay child support. My kids still have issues from this. But we get along now, the ex and I, at least for the kids sake.
    Children are very curious and will ask a lot of questions. Even some we don't feel comfortable answering. I'm not talking about telling him as a toddler or a teen. Someday, when he's all grown up, he may wanna know why and how his mother and I 'didn't get along.' I'm not gonna make something up and lie to him. My ex loves to lie. She lies to everybody. I don't. I can be blunt and brutally honest. I can be critical, but I usually try being constructive about it. I'm just one of those people. I'm especially not gonna hide anything from my son. If he doesn't ask, then I won't tell. I'd never say horrible things just to have it out for my ex, though. She made a mistake. She'll regret it, if she isn't already. I've moved on. She'll just have to accept that. I'm wanting to maintain a friendship with my ex, as we've gone through so much. If not for each other, then for our son. He deserves to have both of us in his life. He deserves to be surrounded by love. He doesn't deserve to face any consequences from this situation. He did nothing wrong. I just hope that he knows and feels that his daddy wanted to be there this whole time. Babies and children are much more intelligent than we think.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    thanks man. I still think its the way to go. Megadose that clomid and bust that fatal nut Blow Job Betty style. You can't be held responsible if she willingly swallows!
    You need to be a motivational speaker. That is by far the funniest thing I've read all week.
    "I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
    WHITE WHALE!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    thanks man. I still think its the way to go. Megadose that clomid and bust that fatal nut Blow Job Betty style. You can't be held responsible if she willingly swallows!
    Are we talking about a huge load or poisonous/contaminated semen now?

  13. HUGE load!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by tattoopierced1 View Post
    record everything. Go out and buy a small personal recorder and any interaction you have with any of them, record.
    I'm not sure if the law exists in just some individual states, or if it exists all throughout the country, but I do believe (I could be wrong, as laws constantly change) that recording somebody's person or voice, without them knowing it, is illegal. But, like I said, I could be wrong. Should I tell them that I'm recording them, or no? I guess I could always purchase a personal recorder, turn it on, and put it in my pocket, for whenever I go over to my ex's house to pick my son up.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    HUGE load!
    Are you fcuking serious!?

    How does the Clomid manage to do that?

    I can't believe that I'm actually finding your idea to be enlightening. To megadose Clomid, get my ex to deepthroat me, then gag her and make her choke on a thick load of my manjuice.

    How much are we talking here?

  16. the recording is only an issue over the phone so far as I know. Recording in person interactions is different.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    the recording is only an issue over the phone so far as I know. Recording in person interactions is different.
    Hm, I didn't know that. I should get a recorder then. It'd help me out in the longrun, especially if my ex or anyone in her family insists on making any wild and crazy accusations.

    Now, I'm worried about my ex leaving our son with her mother. I do believe my ex is much smarter (we've talked about it several times before) than to leave him with her mother. Her mother has a nasty past with CPS. She used to abuse my ex while she was growing up and still continues to. She abused her ex-husband, too. Oh, and let's not forget about her assaulting me. She also recently tried making accusations towards my mother at work (they both work at the hospital) and my mother almost lost her job. My ex's mother gets a kick out of all this. I already heard a rumor that she supposively said that she wasn't gonna have much to do with her grandson. Most likely because he's partly mine. I wouldn't put it past her, to hurt him just to hurt him, or to even try setting me up and calling the cops on me. I'm worried about him being abused. I'm extremely worried about this. I understand that while he's in my ex's custody, she can parent him how she wants and the same goes for me. But, what if I feel my ex's mother is a threat to him and my ex leaves him with her while she's at school or work? Am I allowed to call Social Services and for a police escort, and go pick up my son? Afterall, I have more rights to my son than his grandmother.

  18. do you know if there ever were any actual calls in to the police on her for the abuse?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    Are you fcuking serious!?

    How does the Clomid manage to do that?

    I can't believe that I'm actually finding your idea to be enlightening. To megadose Clomid, get my ex to deepthroat me, then gag her and make her choke on a thick load of my manjuice.

    How much are we talking here?
    Read up on clomid! Peter North style loads are for real!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    do you know if there ever were any actual calls in to the police on her for the abuse?
    I just know about it from my ex and her father. I've also seen marks and bruises on my ex, and I've heard her mother hit her, whether it be in the next room or over the phone. But my ex will hit her back. So...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    Read up on clomid! Peter North style loads are for real!
    Is it a fertility drug or something? lol

    How would I go about obtaining this? Would I need a prescription, or no? Or perhaps just Google?

    You've sparked my interest, Myth.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    Hm, I didn't know that. I should get a recorder then. It'd help me out in the longrun, especially if my ex or anyone in her family insists on making any wild and crazy accusations.

    Now, I'm worried about my ex leaving our son with her mother. I do believe my ex is much smarter (we've talked about it several times before) than to leave him with her mother. Her mother has a nasty past with CPS. She used to abuse my ex while she was growing up and still continues to. She abused her ex-husband, too. Oh, and let's not forget about her assaulting me. She also recently tried making accusations towards my mother at work (they both work at the hospital) and my mother almost lost her job. My ex's mother gets a kick out of all this. I already heard a rumor that she supposively said that she wasn't gonna have much to do with her grandson. Most likely because he's partly mine. I wouldn't put it past her, to hurt him just to hurt him, or to even try setting me up and calling the cops on me. I'm worried about him being abused. I'm extremely worried about this. I understand that while he's in my ex's custody, she can parent him how she wants and the same goes for me. But, what if I feel my ex's mother is a threat to him and my ex leaves him with her while she's at school or work? Am I allowed to call Social Services and for a police escort, and go pick up my son? Afterall, I have more rights to my son than his grandmother.
    you are asking some good questions here. I think you should get legal advice on this. If you feel your mother in law is a danger to your son I would report this to your lawyer and ask his advice as soon as possible.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by evankyle View Post
    you are asking some good questions here. I think you should get legal advice on this. If you feel your mother in law is a danger to your son I would report this to your lawyer and ask his advice as soon as possible.
    I just have to wait until I have the money in order to pay for my attorneys. The criminal lawyer is more expensive, of course, but it's well worth it. I'm not gonna expect pro-bono attorneys and public defenders to fight my case. That's just asking for trouble. I've learned my lesson from being in court the first few times. They only can do so much, but when you hire an attorney, you're paying them to do absolutely whatever they can. They'll do anything for you.

  24. Clomid is only showing up as being a fertility drug for women...

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    Children are very curious and will ask a lot of questions. Even some we don't feel comfortable answering. I'm not talking about telling him as a toddler or a teen. Someday, when he's all grown up, he may wanna know why and how his mother and I 'didn't get along.' I'm not gonna make something up and lie to him. My ex loves to lie. She lies to everybody. I don't. I can be blunt and brutally honest. I can be critical, but I usually try being constructive about it. I'm just one of those people. I'm especially not gonna hide anything from my son. If he doesn't ask, then I won't tell. I'd never say horrible things just to have it out for my ex, though. She made a mistake. She'll regret it, if she isn't already. I've moved on. She'll just have to accept that. I'm wanting to maintain a friendship with my ex, as we've gone through so much. If not for each other, then for our son. He deserves to have both of us in his life. He deserves to be surrounded by love. He doesn't deserve to face any consequences from this situation. He did nothing wrong. I just hope that he knows and feels that his daddy wanted to be there this whole time. Babies and children are much more intelligent than we think.
    That is fine as long as you to are willing to admit being wrong. I think that 15 is to young to make smart relationship decisions. Maturity comes with age and experience. As well if she is being abused she is looking to "fix" her life through someone else. If her parents are abusing her then she is likely even less mature mentally.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    That is fine as long as you to are willing to admit being wrong. I think that 15 is to young to make smart relationship decisions. Maturity comes with age and experience. As well if she is being abused she is looking to "fix" her life through someone else. If her parents are abusing her then she is likely even less mature mentally.
    Everybody has a different way of parenting. I'm not going to talk about such things with my child until he's much older. Possibly in high school, maybe even college. I'm not just gonna be like, "Your mother cheated, that's why." I'm just gonna explain that she was young, most likely confused, didn't know what she wanted, made a mistake, and I decided that her and I should just be friends. Something along those lines.

    My ex's father has had sole custody over her for years. Her mother has always had issues and still does. Her mother always gives her and her father a hard time. Her mother didn't have the best life growing up, so that could possibly contribute to why she is the way she is. She's just very spiteful, rude, and downright mean. She always knew better than to hit my ex in front of me because I would've gone crazy. I'm against child abuse and I won't even be spanking my child. I don't believe in it.

    My ex's mother now tells people that she's 'afraid' of me. Well, hm. I'd be afraid of somebody who I falsely accused and put into jail, too.

  27. Damn man you are a trooper.......all i can say is keep on keeping on.........and i do believe that if you get in front of the judge and make it clear you find her mother a threat to your, your ex's, and your child's continued health, the judge will make it clear the child is not to stay with her. he can require there be others around when she see her grandson, if she chooses to see him. ill talk to my sister a bit more about all this.......she is currently finishing up law school and is very knowledgeable about these kind of cases

  28. You can get your lawyer to go in and file a temporary visitation schedule that will enable you to see your son while the court stuff is going on.

    You can pull police reports and get statements from family , people who know the exs mom, etc to write documents for you stating her violence.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    You can get your lawyer to go in and file a temporary visitation schedule that will enable you to see your son while the court stuff is going on.

    You can pull police reports and get statements from family , people who know the exs mom, etc to write documents for you stating her violence.
    My ex and her father have told me before, that they won't keep my son away from me, even when I was supposively getting ordered to court for child support. That hasn't happened, though. I'm hoping, even if I take her to go for paternity testing and joint custody, that they'll still allow me to go pick him up and drop him off. It'd be very selfish of them to not let me see him, only because I brought her to court. Some people in her family just don't want me having rights, so that'd be the only reason they'd try fighting this. They don't want me having any rights, but there I'll be, fighting for my rights.

    I'll talk to my family lawyer about pulling up any possible records about my ex's mother. I doubt I'll be able to get statements from friends or family members of hers. They wouldn't give me statements that would help me get what my ex's mother doesn't want.

    All I know is, if my ex and her father go to court and try fighting my attempt to get just joint custody, then they truly are selfish and possessive people. It'll be out in the open. It'll be clear.

    I won't be surprised if my ex and/or her mother get charged with perjury. They constantly lie. I've heard that this judge in family court has a nack for people who lie and talk shiit. He'll be able to tell if my ex is lying, kissing his ass, sucking up, etc. That'll be interesting to see. Her and her family need to hear my rights be established, by the judge himself, or else they won't believe what anybody says. They think they know it all, so they go by what they think they know. This will be a wakeup call for their family, especially my ex. I know she'll eventually hold this against me. She's the kind of person who would say something like, "You think you're such a big man by taking me to court?" She'd just throw things in my face, be rude, etc., even if I'm willing to maintain a friendship with her. She doesn't understand, I must do this for our son and myself. I have rights and I want them protected.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by getupforletdo View Post
    Damn man you are a trooper.......all i can say is keep on keeping on.........and i do believe that if you get in front of the judge and make it clear you find her mother a threat to your, your ex's, and your child's continued health, the judge will make it clear the child is not to stay with her. he can require there be others around when she see her grandson, if she chooses to see him. ill talk to my sister a bit more about all this.......she is currently finishing up law school and is very knowledgeable about these kind of cases
    Talk to your sister and get back to me! Thanks for your support!
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