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The readers of HIGH TIMES want marijuana legalized, nationwide, and now. The 420 Campaign is a plan to bring legalization before the US Congress and the public. We want to use April 20th as a focal point every year to concentrate pressure on Congress to legalize marijuana until we get the job done.

Here are our top ten reasons marijuana should be legalized:

10. Prohibition has failed to control the use and domestic production of marijuana.
The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over 25 million people annually, cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States, and marijuana is grown all over the planet. Claims that marijuana prohibition is a successful policy are ludicrous and unsupported by the facts, and the idea that marijuana will soon be eliminated from America and the rest of the world is a ridiculous fantasy.

9. Arrests for marijuana possession disproportionately affect blacks and Hispanics and reinforce the perception that law enforcement is biased and prejudiced against minorities.
African-Americans account for approximately 13% of the population of the United States and about 13.5% of annual marijuana users, however, blacks also account for 26% of all marijuana arrests. Recent studies have demonstrated that blacks and Hispanics account for the majority of marijuana possession arrests in New York City, primarily for smoking marijuana in public view. Law enforcement has failed to demonstrate that marijuana laws can be enforced fairly without regard to race; far too often minorities are arrested for marijuana use while white/non-Hispanic Americans face a much lower risk of arrest.

8. A regulated, legal market in marijuana would reduce marijuana sales and use among teenagers, as well as reduce their exposure to other drugs in the illegal market.

The illegality of marijuana makes it more valuable than if it were legal, providing opportunities for teenagers to make easy money selling it to their friends. If the excessive profits for marijuana sales were ended through legalization there would be less incentive for teens to sell it to one another. Teenage use of alcohol and tobacco remain serious public health problems even though those drugs are legal for adults, however, the availability of alcohol and tobacco is not made even more widespread by providing kids with economic incentives to sell either one to their friends and peers.

7. Legalized marijuana would reduce the flow of money from the American economy to international criminal gangs.
Marijuana’s illegality makes foreign cultivation and smuggling to the United States extremely profitable, sending billions of dollars overseas in an underground economy while diverting funds from productive economic development.

6. Marijuana’s legalization would simplify the development of hemp as a valuable and diverse agricultural crop in the United States, including its development as a new bio-fuel to reduce carbon emissions.
Canada and European countries have managed to support legal hemp cultivation without legalizing marijuana, but in the United States opposition to legal marijuana remains the biggest obstacle to development of industrial hemp as a valuable agricultural commodity. As US energy policy continues to embrace and promote the development of bio-fuels as an alternative to oil dependency and a way to reduce carbon emissions, it is all the more important to develop industrial hemp as a bio-fuel source – especially since use of hemp stalks as a fuel source will not increase demand and prices for food, such as corn. Legalization of marijuana will greatly simplify the regulatory burden on prospective hemp cultivation in the United States.

5. Prohibition is based on lies and disinformation.
Justification of marijuana’s illegality increasingly requires distortions and selective uses of the scientific record, causing harm to the credibility of teachers, law enforcement officials, and scientists throughout the country. The dangers of marijuana use have been exaggerated for almost a century and the modern scientific record does not support the reefer madness predictions of the past and present. Many claims of marijuana’s danger are based on old 20th century prejudices that originated in a time when science was uncertain how marijuana produced its characteristic effects. Since the cannabinoid receptor system was discovered in the late 1980s these hysterical concerns about marijuana’s dangerousness have not been confirmed with modern research. Everyone agrees that marijuana, or any other drug use such as alcohol or tobacco use, is not for children. Nonetheless, adults have demonstrated over the last several decades that marijuana can be used moderately without harmful impacts to the individual or society.

4. Marijuana is not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol.
It is established scientific fact that marijuana is not toxic to humans; marijuana overdoses are nearly impossible, and marijuana is not nearly as addictive as alcohol or tobacco. It is unfair and unjust to treat marijuana users more harshly under the law than the users of alcohol or tobacco.

3. Marijuana is too expensive for our justice system and should instead be taxed to support beneficial government programs.
Law enforcement has more important responsibilities than arresting 750,000 individuals a year for marijuana possession, especially given the additional justice costs of disposing of each of these cases. Marijuana arrests make justice more expensive and less efficient in the United States, wasting jail space, clogging up court systems, and diverting time of police, attorneys, judges, and corrections officials away from violent crime, the sexual abuse of children, and terrorism. Furthermore, taxation of marijuana can provide needed and generous funding of many important criminal justice and social programs.

2. Marijuana use has positive attributes, such as its medical value and use as a recreational drug with relatively mild side effects.

Many people use marijuana because they have made an informed decision that it is good for them, especially Americans suffering from a variety of serious ailments. Marijuana provides relief from pain, nausea, spasticity, and other symptoms for many individuals who have not been treated successfully with conventional medications. Many American adults prefer marijuana to the use of alcohol as a mild and moderate way to relax. Americans use marijuana because they choose to, and one of the reasons for that choice is their personal observation that the drug has a relatively low dependence liability and easy-to-manage side effects. Most marijuana users develop tolerance to many of marijuana’s side effects, and those who do not, choose to stop using the drug. Marijuana use is the result of informed consent in which individuals have decided that the benefits of use outweigh the risks, especially since, for most Americans, the greatest risk of using marijuana is the relatively low risk of arrest.

1. Marijuana users are determined to stand up to the injustice of marijuana probation and accomplish legalization, no matter how long or what it takes to succeed.
Despite the threat of arrests and a variety of other punishments and sanctions marijuana users have persisted in their support for legalization for over a generation. They refuse to give up their long quest for justice because they believe in the fundamental values of American society. Prohibition has failed to silence marijuana users despite its best attempts over the last generation. The issue of marijuana’s legalization is a persistent issue that, like marijuana, will simply not go away. Marijuana will be legalized because marijuana users will continue to fight for it until they succeed.
 
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I'd be happy if they'd un-ban prohormones/legalize gear.
 
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I could've sworn Mary Jane was a type of candy similar to Sugar Daddies. I'm pretty sure it's not only legal, but caused people to get their houses egged when they handed it out on Halloween. :D
 
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The legal cannabis clubs in California has proven to be quite successful (duh!) and has drastically reduced arrests. Unfortunately, NY is/was the home of Rockefeller and his fvcked up drug laws, not to mention all the old money, so I'm doubtful that this will take off in NY. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
 
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The legal cannabis clubs in California has proven to be quite successful (duh!) and has drastically reduced arrests. Unfortunately, NY is/was the home of Rockefeller and his fvcked up drug laws, not to mention all the old money, so I'm doubtful that this will take off in NY. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
So you are an advocate for the legalization of Marijuana?
 
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So you are an advocate for the legalization of Marijuana?
Not so much legalization so much as decriminalization. Pot smokers shouldn't have to do these crazy bids w/murderers, rapists and pedophiles. It just isn't right.
 
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4. Marijuana is not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol.
It is established scientific fact that marijuana is not toxic to humans; marijuana overdoses are nearly impossible, and marijuana is not nearly as addictive as alcohol or tobacco. It is unfair and unjust to treat marijuana users more harshly under the law than the users of alcohol or tobacco.
I think this is commonly overlooked/ignored by the majority of people
 
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"dude, i got totally baked and forgot to take that bill to congress!!"
 
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I agree and support decriming and legalizing Marijuana. I believe #7 is the wrong way round.

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I don't smoke but I support it's legalization.

Although I'm not a pot smoker remember it is deadlier then cigarette smoking and alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons then tobacco. So I don't agree with number 4. I think if legalized the cancer rate will get even higher hence causing even more deaths then cancer claims already.

Anyway I'm for people having a choice. If you want to smoke a fatty go ahead, you want to pop a dbol tab go ahead. These things hurt no one but the user if he or she isn't both careful and responsible.
 
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In santa barbara ca. legislation was passed in the city that made personal use the lowest priority crime its basically decrimanalized ..but of course even people with medical cards can get screwed if a cop wants to be an ass
 
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I think all drugs should be legal, but I am telling you this will never happen, nor will legalization of "mary jane". It has been an issue since some you were not even born yet, so what makes you think it will ever happen?.
 
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"...cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States"

Yeah right. Amber waves of...cannabis? Don't think so.

"..remember it is deadlier then cigarette smoking and alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons then tobacco."

Sounds good on paper, but where are the cancer wards full of potheads? Various cannibinoids also act as strong anti-cancer agents in the body by inducing or modulating aptosis..the second step after mutation that gets the cancer process rolling.
 
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"...cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States"

Yeah right. Amber waves of...cannabis? Don't think so.

"..remember it is deadlier then cigarette smoking and alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons then tobacco."

Sounds good on paper, but where are the cancer wards full of potheads? Various cannibinoids also act as strong anti-cancer agents in the body by inducing or modulating aptosis..the second step after mutation that gets the cancer process rolling.
Bio did you mean Apoptosis, the programmed cell death...?
 
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Cannabis is just a gateway drug to having a good, relaxing time.
 
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I don't smoke but I support it's legalization.

Although I'm not a pot smoker remember it is deadlier then cigarette smoking and alcohol. Marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons then tobacco. So I don't agree with number 4. I think if legalized the cancer rate will get even higher hence causing even more deaths then cancer claims already.

Anyway I'm for people having a choice. If you want to smoke a fatty go ahead, you want to pop a dbol tab go ahead. These things hurt no one but the user if he or she isn't both careful and responsible.
I might be missing something, but most pot smokers don't smoke 20 joints a day.
 
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I think all drugs should be legal, but I am telling you this will never happen, nor will legalization of "mary jane". It has been an issue since some you were not even born yet, so what makes you think it will ever happen?.
Its already legal in Denver, Colorado...
 
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Less than a ounce and the police smoke on the way to Crispy Creme Donuts...
 
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It's an expensive ticket though, right Manifesto?
 
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Yes sir. I have never got a ticket for that, but I have friends who have.
 
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baby steps...baby steps...but at least they are in the right direction.

Nobody would have thought a country like the US could have ever come into existence, and yet it did. Doesn't matter how long something has been debated, etc....right is right, and seeing peoples' lives wrongly ruined tends to piss other people off. Not to mention the smug attitudes of those in power realy works against them.
 

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One of the reasons marijuana won't become legalized nationwide anytime soon is because the criminalization of it results in way too many jobs for this country, but the politicians won't admit that. They claim it's a gateway drug, and marijuana dealers should be placed in the same category as Ted Bundy and the Menendez brothers, when probably 1/5 of them smoke the herb at least a couple times a year.

I hate politicians, they are all ****ing scumbags. It's ridiculous as to why marijuana was made illegal in the first place.

Anyone who doesn't support the legalization of marijuana but drinks alcohol on a regular basis is a ****ing hypocrite.
 
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One of the reasons marijuana won't become legalized nationwide anytime soon is because the criminalization of it results in way too many jobs for this country, but the politicians won't admit that. They claim it's a gateway drug, and marijuana dealers should be placed in the same category as Ted Bundy and the Menendez brothers, when probably 1/5 of them smoke the herb at least a couple times a year.

I hate politicians, they are all ****ing scumbags. It's ridiculous as to why marijuana was made illegal in the first place.

Anyone who doesn't support the legalization of marijuana but drinks alcohol on a regular basis is a ****ing hypocrite.

Could not have said it better myself...:goodpost:
 
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You do forget though that the children grow up into these positions of power to make changes. It only takes one to pass a bill through, if they really want to.

If you believe you have failed, you have!

I hope you guys don't take these kinds of beliefs into the gym with you "there's no hope, the iron is just too heavy for me, there's no point in trying to lift heavier weights" = P
 
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I don't smoke but I support legalization of marijuana.

Unfortunately though the alcohol companies and the pharm. companies would lose so much money on budweiser and prozac/sleep drugs that they lobby very hard against legalization of marijuana. Its all politics, and money is all that matters in politics.

It isn't right though. If we want to be Puritans then outlaw alcohol . In fact it doesn't even have to be a moral issue, it could be a public safety issue. Alcohol is responsible for so much domestic violence and death and injury from DWI, but no one is discussing the issue of getting rid of alcohol. But it isn't an issue about morality or public safety, its a money issue.

The system is broken, and money broke it. Ron Paul was our best chance to start fixing it. But there are just too many sheeple walking around who vote for who the tv/radio tells them to vote for.
 

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The system is broken, and money broke it. Ron Paul was our best chance to start fixing it. But there are just too many sheeple walking around who vote for who the tv/radio tells them to vote for.
Spoken like a man that knows the fallacies of the extremely corrupt political system in this country.
 
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Sounds good on paper, but where are the cancer wards full of potheads? Various cannibinoids also act as strong anti-cancer agents in the body by inducing or modulating aptosis..the second step after mutation that gets the cancer process rolling.
That's true - although Marijuana smoke does contain more tar than the average cigarette, I've read the cancer-causing effects of tobacco smoke are more due to the chemicals that are added to cigarrettes when they're made, not so much from the tobacco leaf itself.

While it's never a good idea to inhale burnt plant matter, there are other ways to use the plant without incurring the health risks associated with smoking.

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If they ever do 'decriminalize' anything, they should do it based on the impact on society the particular substance has.

I've known all walks of life and have known plenty of people that use/abuse recreational drugs.

There is no across the board answer however, but a majority could be considered.

i.e. I've known tons of pot smokers. About 50% were lazy bums, the other 50% were brilliant. Perhaps it wasn't the plant that made them who they are, but rather they were either lazy or brilliant the whole time.

I've also known a few heroin users. Can't say any of them ever had a job, or any type of acceptable way of life, unless living in a gutter or an abandoned house is acceptable.

I've only ever known 1 meth user that made it out with all their teeth, but I've seen the results on the quality of life with the users. Its not pretty.

Discuss.
 
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I might be missing something, but most pot smokers don't smoke 20 joints a day.
I would actually like to meet someone who smokes 20 joints a day, LOL. What they were getting at is the everyday pot smoker. I know plenty of people that smoke almost half the day (basically after work). As for wards of cancer ridden pot smokers, no way to seperate that group. Most pot smokers I know smoke cigarettes as well, not all but I would easily say 80%. Also because of it's illegal status most people will smoke a lot more when their younger but as they get older they grow out of it or lose interest for family reasons or whatever.
 
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I would actually like to meet someone who smokes 20 joints a day, LOL. What they were getting at is the everyday pot smoker. I know plenty of people that smoke almost half the day (basically after work). As for wards of cancer ridden pot smokers, no way to seperate that group. Most pot smokers I know smoke cigarettes as well, not all but I would easily say 80%. Also because of it's illegal status most people will smoke a lot more when their younger but as they get older they grow out of it or lose interest for family reasons or whatever.
I know a few in the 10 joint a day range, they are not human. Very true about most pot smokers usually being cigarette smokers, 80% sounds about right.
 
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I know a few in the 10 joint a day range, they are not human. Very true about most pot smokers usually being cigarette smokers, 80% sounds about right.
None of the pot smokers that I know smoke cigarettes.
 
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, and smoke a joint on the road, it would be an enormous hazard.
If you call people driving wayyyyyyyy under the speed limit a hazard then yes :D

It's nothing like DUI, not even close but reaction times etc are affected yes.
 
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I support the decriminalization of marijuana smokers and the legalization of marijuana.

I'll state right now that I smoke marijuana. I haven't during the past few months because I've been on probation, but I will definitely be lighting up once I get off probation. I would occasionally smoke once in a while. It wasn't a daily part of my routine. I'd usually smoke a little bit while out partying with my friends, or when I got done work, just to relax.

Getting marijuana legalized will be quite a task. The US government has spent billions and billions of dollars over the years on anti-drug propaganda.

I do not believe in the 'Gateway Theory.' I find it to be an excuse for drug addicts not to have to accept responsibility for allowing excessive drug use to consume their daily lives. It's not a theory. It's an excuse. Drug users just end up getting bored of the high (I don't know how they could) from marijuana, so they resort to actual lethal drugs to get a more severe, intense high. That, of course, will end up getting boring, too, and they'll resort further to even more lethal drugs from then on.

Legalizing marijuana would be rather simple. It'd take time and money, but it could work. They could go about the same process as they do with cigarettes. I'm almost positive that the legalization of marijuana would absolutely destroy the tobacco industry. State governments, as well as the federal government, could give out permits to qualified individuals, to farm and grow marijuana. They could then sell it and distribute it, but they would also have to place a tax on it, which the government would do, just like they do with cigarettes. Any individuals 18 years of age, or older, should be able to possess up to a certain amount of marijuana. It shouldn't be available to minors. The same restrictions that apply to cigarettes and alcohol, should apply to marijuana, if it were to be legalized.

Over half of the prison population in the US is because of individuals either growing, buying/selling, possessing, and/or smoking marijuana. A lot of these inmates also serve long sentences. They get locked up with rapists, child molestors, murderers, burglars, gang members, etc. It's ridiculous. Marijuana users are not criminals. Many people have committed crimes while being under the influence of acid, 'shrooms, LSD, ecstacy, cocaine, etc. How many marijuana smokers have committed crimes? None. Not to mention, our prisons are overcrowded with so many marijuana users, meanwhile real criminals, as I just previously mentioned, are walking the streets.

The 'harmful' effects of marijuana are way over-exaggerated. Marijuana actually does more 'good' than 'harm,' to your body. There are also many myths about marijuana. I actually have a book somewhere around here, which was written by doctors, scientists, and psychologists. It's all about the truth behind such myths made about marijuana. I'll look through it and then cite some of the pieces here.
 
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If anything, that would keep money flowing into the legal system. Making something legal does NOT imply that it's ok to consume it anywhere.

Beer is legal, but you also cannot go down to the store, then pop a beer in your car and drive away.

Driving under the influence of pot would have to be defined (HOW stoned are they?), but would then be able to be classified, and penalities assigned.
 
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I don't mind when people smoke occasionally. I sometimes do it myself, but people that base their lives around it are pathetic wastes of space.

It would definitely boost our GDP if MJ was legal. The tobacco companies already have their foot in the door. It would be so easy for them. The only problem is the negative effect it has on driving. If people were able to get it at any gas station, and smoke a joint on the road, it would be an enormous hazard.
Marijuana could be farmed and distributed like tobacco, but not sold like cigarettes. I think you'd have to purchase the marijuana from a medical organization, government agency, or a marijuana farmer.

Anyone caught driving under the influence of marijuana should be fined, but not arrested. They should be ticketed, fined, and not be able to drive until sobered up. All it does is delay reaction time. It doesn't make you speed or drive like a maniac.
 
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If anything, that would keep money flowing into the legal system. Making something legal does NOT imply that it's ok to consume it anywhere.

Beer is legal, but you also cannot go down to the store, then pop a beer in your car and drive away.

Driving under the influence of pot would have to be defined (HOW stoned are they?), but would then be able to be classified, and penalities assigned.
I like that idea. The highest BAC here in New York is .08. Anything above that, you get slapped with a DWI. I'm sure that law enforcement and the government could find some way to measure exactly how much marijuana someone has smoked, if they're caught driving while under the influence.
 
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I like that idea. The highest BAC here in New York is .08. Anything above that, you get slapped with a DWI. I'm sure that law enforcement and the government could find some way to measure exactly how much marijuana someone has smoked, if they're caught driving while under the influence.
Munchie scale - you start off by offering oatmeal raisin cookies, and work your way to double chocolate chip. The more they can resist, the less stoned they are.
 
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Munchie scale - you start off by offering oatmeal raising cookies, and work your way to double chocolate chip. The more they can resist, the less stoned they are.
:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:
 
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Munchie scale - you start off by offering oatmeal raisin cookies, and work your way to double chocolate chip. The more they can resist, the less stoned they are.
That's fcuking hilarious! :lol:
 

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The only problem with the DUI situation is, what kind of test do you have to determine how high a person is when they're on the road? I think that's another reason as to why it won't become legal nationwide.

At least Cali is headed in a positive direction in terms of marijuana laws.

IMO, every drug should be legal, but whomever commits a crime while under the influence of a substance should receive harsh punishments. The money the government receives could be spent on education and rehabilitation clinics, but if an addict doesn't want help, **** them, let them rot and die.

Government shouldn't be telling us what to put into our own bodies.
 
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IMO, every drug should be legal, but whomever commits a crime while under the influence of a substance should receive harsh punishments. The money the government receives could be spent on education and rehabilitation clinics, but if an addict doesn't want help, **** them, let them rot and die.

Government shouldn't be telling us what to put into our own bodies.
Oh my god, that would be like, teaching personal responsibility!
 
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Oh my god, that would be like, teaching personal responsibility!
In a country where coffee has to have a warning label on it to let you know that hot coffee is hot..........
 
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You can buy beer (or if you prefer, ZIMA) at any gas station. Some people crack it open on the road, some don't. One reason that I want to see it "decriminalized" as opposed to "legalized" is that once Phillip Morris gets to making them, they're gonna contaminate it with all of their chemicals that get you and keep you addicted. "They know the magical amount. Not enough to really hurt ya. The magical amount. Just enough to get ya hooked..."
 
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You can buy beer (or if you prefer, ZIMA) at any gas station. Some people crack it open on the road, some don't. One reason that I want to see it "decriminalized" as opposed to "legalized" is that once Phillip Morris gets to making them, they're gonna contaminate it with all of their chemicals that get you and keep you addicted. "They know the magical amount. Not enough to really hurt ya. The magical amount. Just enough to get ya hooked..."
The tobacco industry wouldn't take over the hemp industry, if marijuana were to become legalized. Legalization would kill the tobacco industry and put all companies out of business.

I don't look at marijuana as a drug. It's a plant. It's listed under a species of plant, not as often listed as a 'drug.' It's not addictive either.
 
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In a country where coffee has to have a warning label on it to let you know that hot coffee is hot..........
This is also a country, where many people don't know that fastfood can make you obese. So, they don't exercise, eat nothing but McDonald's, gain a lot of weight, then try suing McD's, accusing the corporation of their food making them fat and claim that they had no idea it could do such a thing.

Fcuking idiots.
 

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