completely Ridiculous "above the influence" commercial
- 11-15-2006, 03:03 PM
completely Ridiculous "above the influence" commercial
He is the entire dialog of the newest media from the oppressors at "above the influence"
A single kid says these lines on the phone to his friend
"How did she get home"
"I was so high"
"you know me thatís not me"
I had to see this 3 times before I realized this wasnít actually meant to be a joke. They donít even tell you what happened to the girl referred to as "she." Were supposed to create our own horror story about how some kid getting stoned possibly had to do with this girl, who did, by the sound of things, get home ok. I mean someone could walk away from this rightfully thinking her house got bombed by terrorist and Tim is blaming this kid in the commercial because he got high the night before.
There was no evidence presented in this commercial what so ever, just baseless opinion. Many say there is a baseless war being faught in the middle east, well there is one on drugs being fought here. At this rate we are going to be burning people in time square accusing them of witchcraft by 2010.
Please tell me no one takes these seriously.
- 11-15-2006, 03:11 PM
i've actually seen a few responsible anti-marijuana ads where the kid's saying things like "i didn't die or kill someone else blah blah blah .. i just did nothing" the message being that pot isn't going to kill you or turn you into a psychopath .. it just leads to laziness and a loss of motivation
people will always respond better to the truth than ridiculous scare tactics
11-15-2006, 03:28 PM
People respond to shock therapy better than just telling them the reality. However, it seems these ads are more for parents than kids since they'll take one look at laugh...probably while high
Just read a story about this 17 year old that had to be carried from his car to the house because he was so trashed from alcohol. Of course it's on myspace and half the idiots don't realize more than just their friends look at this ****.
I think the real war on drugs should be parents knowing what the hell is going on regardless if it hurts their kids feelings.
11-15-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally Posted by glenihan
I cant say I support that add, but I cant say im opposed to it either. Why? Because it is NON drug, not ANTI drug. Im not against non-drug folks, im against ANTI drug people because they have no business what we do to our body.
BTW- while were on the topic, it seems like steroid hysteria has calmed down a little bit.... knock on wood.
11-15-2006, 03:42 PM
Yeah, I have seen this commercial a million times and have no clue what the hell it's implying. In fact, I have spent so much time wondering I haven't had time to get high in two weeks...kidding
11-15-2006, 03:45 PM
don't get me wrong i'm not anti-drug at all .. i think all drugs should be legalized
i was just saying i'm not against ads that tell the truth .. i've smoked plenty of pot .. and it does in fact make you lazy and cause you to lose motivation .. at least while high
and jay you are completely right man ... its horrible how parents pay such little attention to what's going on in their kids lives .. you don't want them watching something or listening to something or doing something? great .. stop them from doing it .. don't freak out and demand it get taken off the air or illegalized because you are too lazy to be a good observant parent
11-15-2006, 03:56 PM
Damn right! Parents should be allowed to put some fear into their kids too. If my mom ever told me to do something I did it...not necessarily b/c I respected her (that came later with age), but because I was afraid!...my co-workers tell me horror stories about how their 15 year olds steal their $ and smoke pot and have sex at home and blah blah...my mom knew if I farted in the back yard while playing wiffle ball...I couldn't get away with ****!
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
11-15-2006, 04:20 PM
11-15-2006, 08:55 PM
Yea, worst commercial ever! I think pot is a really stupid thing to do but that commercial makes me want to kill people.
11-15-2006, 11:51 PM
Fear with information is a great combo. Realistic fear.
For example of what I have told my daughter about pot. It may not be worse than acohol or cigarettes and you may lead a perfect life and smoke but the chance you take is having a criminal record. Losing your license, being disqualified from jobs or getting fired. Fatal or not it's illegal and while it's illegal you will have to deal with those consequences and I have yet to see how any "high" is worth screwing up your life over.
11-16-2006, 12:26 AM
I don't think its such a bad commercial. I feel that it is a good warning to people that things are not always fun and games just cause your getting stoned. Not that smoking pot is gonna make you do something you would NEVER do while sober but it might loosen your inhibitions enough to make you do something you really regret later. I think that is all they are trying to say.
11-16-2006, 07:16 AM
Originally Posted by natiels
Thats a lot of circumstantial evidence. You could make a case against never getting in a car again, because a lot of people die doing that.
What if's and maybe's dont make a case against something.
It was also illegal for the minutemen and george washington to rise up against the red coats.Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
11-16-2006, 08:01 AM
How can you compare the birth of this country to someone smoking a jointOriginally Posted by spatch
11-16-2006, 08:21 AM
No, people like to say "thats just the way it is" when I ask them to justify some laws. I say if your going to beleive that, drink tea with your pinky out while watching soccer on the tele.Originally Posted by RenegadeRows
11-16-2006, 11:04 AM
Are you seriously arguing the statement that you have a greater chance of doing something you'll regret while high? That is all I was saying. Regret as in later you wish you had not done that because it hurt someone you care about or it made you look like an ass. Not regret as in you went and killed someone or knocked over a liquor store.Originally Posted by spatch
11-16-2006, 12:49 PM
Eh? Well, I have seen some references stretch but holy hell this is a goodin'. Feel free to challenge the laws or lobby to change them. However, I will say this again and again. If smoking weed, or taking X drug to get high is worth risking your success in life then go for it but I think there are some misguided priorities.No, people like to say "thats just the way it is" when I ask them to justify some laws. I say if your going to beleive that, drink tea with your pinky out while watching soccer on the tele.
There are so many ****ed up things in the world and even in the US that could use some serious lobbying or demonstrations and laws changed that actually effect people's lives. IF you can't do without vices or objects to make you feel temporarily better about yourself or situation then I feel sorry for ya.
Again comparing people wanting to escape the control of the European Gov't to being able to smoke a joint in your livingroom is the type of bull**** i'm talking about. People not even understanding the level of changing a law over the changing of complete government.
11-16-2006, 12:50 PM
Also since you're so patriotic go into the faces of the police dept. and light one up for justice! You can go down in the history books right along side the minutemen.
11-16-2006, 12:51 PM
11-16-2006, 12:54 PM
11-16-2006, 01:21 PM
youre right jay and thats what a lot of us are trying to get across....the only reason pot screws up peoples' lives is because it is illegal. if it werent illegal, there wouldnt be a problem. you can come home after a hard day of work and have a beer or cigarette to relax (both drugs obviously linked to death), why not have a marijuana cigarette (no one has ever died from pot, ever).Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
the anti drug commercials are pathetic. has anyone seen the commerical they ran in the 60's where a kid smokes pot and then beats his mom to death with a frying pan? these anti drug people will tell kids/parents anything, true or not, to get people to stop using drugs.
people should be allowed to do what they want to their own bodies, the addiction rates in countries where drugs are legal are actually lower than the addiction rates in america. those that are enforcing these laws (cops, politicians) need to wake up and start spending those billions of dollars and 1000's of man hour on something productive. oh and how about empting half our jails of addicts.
11-16-2006, 02:36 PM
I liked there first shot at attacking Ganga where the kid shoots himself in the head. Pretty much scared the crap out of me (NOT). Sorry just saw borat, and kinda wish i was high while watching that cause i would have pissed my pants. But thats besides the point, Anti Ganga ads without to many ads about the other more harmful drugs is a shameful attempt to keep Ganga from being legalized.
I know alot more people will drive drunk then stoned, not only that are more prown to violence while intoxicated with alcohol then Ganga, but we'll spare the debate because everyone really know's whos informed how dangerous Ganga is (ROLLEYES). As far as some of there current commericals go, i have this to say. Why is it that they don't back it with auctual facts. Though i suppose i should be grateful they aren't showing someone strung out and jones for a next fix, or robbing a bank or some other stretch of the truth.
11-16-2006, 02:54 PM
I think marijuana impairs you to a degree, but anytime in life whether stressed, tired, hungry, upset, angry, rushed etc. you always need to drive cautiously, and marijuana doesnt give warrant for wrecklessness. I do think marijuana users underestimate its effects, much like the thousands of drugs available. Do you think being perpetually under the influence of a depressant that you wouldnt make different decisions, act different or drive different than otherwise? My point is not to bash marijuana, im not a hypocrite, but to say make wise decisions. Life is tough enough to get through, think about what your doing and be aware marijuana does not make you better at anything that could get you or others hurt or killed.
11-16-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
I'd also agree with your statement, in no way do i think anyone should take the wheel or operate anything impaired. To do that is selfish and plain stupid. Ganga, or marijuana as most reffer to it. Is in IMHO one of the safer stress relievers that can be misused but also have many medical and recreational applications and can be a much safer alternitve then drinking alcohol. Its up to the user and the community to educate people about safety and about a drug no matter if its a OC drug or Anything else. Education Education Education Education, and then let people decide wether its right for them and work from there.
Giving people the idea that smoking/eating Ganga will lead you to be a LAZY sob or a no one in your mom's basement with your two idoit friends is'nt what i'd say is realistic. I'm sure if your that lazy MJ would'nt help you in life. But like i said if your already a Lazy piece of **** you'll probably end up there with a bottle instead of a pipe. So pick your posion on this one, also i know many professionals who hold jobs and smoke ganga and have no problems with lazyness. Infact for me its a great bulking tool, i can't slam down enough food, without it at time's. Not to mention its good for relaxation and enlightenment. Of course may i add, all within reason and moderation. I'm sure the negitives from Ganga drinking or any other drug wether legal or not is going to start displaying itself with over useage/abuse.
11-16-2006, 06:07 PM
i'd like to clarify my statement .. i didn't mean that marijuana will make one lazy necessarily when they aren't high ... but it certainly can, in most individuals, dull motivation whilst one is high
11-16-2006, 06:59 PM
11-16-2006, 09:13 PM
This is the biggest problem with the 'movement'. Alcohol is legal although it has restrictions and almost everyone I have met has driven a vehicle while impared. Ciggarettes are legal but people still smoke them knowing they can and most likely lead to their death.if it werent illegal, there wouldnt be a problem.
Legalizing pot doesn't mean without restrictions. However, if people are already breaking the laws on a completely illegal product then they will most likely be breaking any set restrictions which will make it a whole other ball game for enforcement. Just like enforcing alcohol etc already is.
Most people just want their high and not be threatened with going to jail or at least make it easier to get away with(legalize with restriction). Sure, getting high may be great and maybe downing some restricted drugs would make me feel so much better. However, none of them can I not live life without.
Is pot so great and needed that it really needs to be legalized? Can you not live normally without it? If you can then move on if you can't then there might be the problem.
11-16-2006, 09:19 PM
11-17-2006, 12:56 AM
I think that's a possibility, definitely. Especially if someone is abusing the drug. However, Ive know a lot of people that can be quite productive while using moderate amounts of marijuana. And I stress moderate.i'd like to clarify my statement .. i didn't mean that marijuana will make one lazy necessarily when they aren't high ... but it certainly can, in most individuals, dull motivation whilst one is high
The problem with the War on Drugs is that it will never be won, no matter what happens. Because drugs are a part of human culture and have been for thousands of years, if not more. Nearly every animal on the planet has a plant they like to eat to catch a buzz...When I was a kid I grew up on a farm, and some of my cows LOVED apples. We had an apple orchard way in the back of the cow pasture, and every fall when they'd get ripe, a few of the cows (always the same ones) wouldnt come in the barn at milking time because they were out in the field drunk out of their gourd. (if a ruminent animal eats too much sugary fruit, they get wasted because the fruit juice turns to alcohol during the digestive process)
Anyway, I digress...
My point is the government is trying to surpress a basic human drive to seek a pleasurable experience. Even in countries where drug users get the death penalty prohibition doesnt work, and it never will.
Education and accountability are the only real cures to the nation's drug problem. And you can't leave that up to the government. As our society goes on though, it seems like people just love to come up with excuses not to be responsible for their own actions.
And the drug using community is just the same. Everyone on this board tries to educate ourselves about the proper use of gear, trying to be as responsible as possible. Is it because of people like us that steroids are illegal? No - its because of dumbasses everywhere that abuse them and play into the cliche that the general population believes to be the truth because of the BS propaganda plasterd all over the place.
I'd say many recreational drugs are exactly the same in a way. Is a couple beers with your buddies infront of a nice fire telling stories and laughing your ass off a bad thing? Something that creates great memories and helps forge meaningful and long lasting friendships? Helll no - its one of the best things in life. But there's always that ******* who just has to get behind the wheel of his car after downing a bottle of Jack Daniels and ends up killing someone.
Yeah, its the alcohol's fault. It's the marijuana's fault that kids are unmotivated. The LSD's fault that some loser doesnt want to become a responsible member of society. The Deca's fault that some kid grew boobs and stunted his growth.
People need to stop demonizing chemicals and plants and start demonizing a s s h o l e human beings that can't take responsibility for their own actions, and who dont bother to educate themselves about the compounds that they put into their bodies.
We need to outlaw ignorance, not plants and inanimate molecular structures.
The problem is the a s s h o l e s far outnumber the responsible ones - and that all pours back into the viscious cycle of irresponsibility fostered by our society.
All that aside - I did see the newest anti-marijuana commercials and I do think they're the best ones yet. They're making the kids that abuse the plant out to be losers, which holds a lot more truth than telling you it will make you go crazy and shoot your friends.
11-17-2006, 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
Yes, i recognize the difference. As such, instead of guns I use my words.
11-17-2006, 05:06 AM
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