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  1. Peace in the Middle East


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  2. Love that pic. There will never be peace in the middle east as long as muslims demand that everyone converts to islam.

    However, I am all for nuking Mecca and creating "pieces in the middle east".

    Gumbo
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  3. If it was up to me, I'd make their dream come true. I'm such a nice guy...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Gumbo View Post
    Love that pic. There will never be peace in the middle east as long as muslims demand that everyone converts to islam.

    However, I am all for nuking Mecca and creating "pieces in the middle east".

    Gumbo
    hey man i dunno from where u did hear that but it s really not true!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Naseem View Post
    hey man i dunno from where did u hear that but it s really not true!
    What exactly do you mean by that?
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  6. uh oh

  7. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    uh oh
    my thoughts exactly

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DmitryWI View Post
    What exactly do you mean by that?
    i meant it s not true that muslims demand every body converts to islam since in islam to eb muslim it should come from your own wish not by forcing!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Naseem View Post
    i meant it s not true that muslims demand every body converts to islam since in islam to eb muslim it should come from your own wish not by forcing!
    It's what I thought but radical muslims don't think so. We are all bunch of sinners to them and we should all ****ing die.
    Religion has caused more wars and more killing than any other reason for war. And I'm not talking about islam, but religion in general.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by DmitryWI View Post
    It's what I thought but radical muslims don't think so. We are all bunch of sinners to them and we should all ****ing die.
    Religion has caused more wars and more killing than any other reason for war. And I'm not talking about islam, but religion in general.
    i know what u mean ! u right in part but it s not religion on it s own who caused and still an ll cuase wars it s the ppl who corrupt teh relegion u know what i mean sume do that to get the power other ppl juss blind ignorant....ect the same who are behind crap to day are the same who did the ww1 ww2 and ll be behind teh ww3 if u know what i mean they gave us a clue in the 1 dolla bill the pyramid with whole seein crap eye! u got me !

  11. I understand that, but if all these religions wouldn't exist in the first place then all those maniaks wouldn't have an excuse to hate, kill, etc., others...
    I'm not against believing in God or whoever you believe, but religion and God are two different things.
    Take a look at my myspace.com page in my signature I have a blog Religion vs. Spirituality

  12. ok i ll check well religion it s the way u get a link to god !but the real one not corrupted ones by humans who follow their own devil !

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Naseem View Post
    well religion it s the way u get a link to god !
    Religion is not the way to God, or the only one way to God I should say. To connect with God all you have to do is meditate. You don't have to go to church to believe in God and have relationship with Him. I'm not saying it's wrong (going to church) but it's not the only one way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naseem View Post
    but the real one not corrupted ones by humans who follow their own devil !
    But who decides which religion is real and which one is not? Everyone think they belong to the right religious group and they are right and better than other group. Did they run it by God and made sure it's ok with Him? I doubt it.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by DmitryWI View Post
    Religion is not the way to God, or the only one way to God I should say. To connect with God all you have to do is meditate. You don't have to go to church to believe in God and have relationship with Him. I'm not saying it's wrong (going to church) but it's not the only one way.



    But who decides which religion is real and which one is not? Everyone think they belong to the right religious group and they are right and better than other group. Did they run it by God and made sure it's ok with Him? I doubt it.
    i didnt say like to go juss to church like to go the gym and then u u in teh way to god first off it comes from u r heart b4 that u need the knowledge like to know who is god ! also the oness of god where is he what he wants from us...ect it s the dogma and really deep topic ! and the last quote " u r quote" is relly complex i ll be glad to discuss that with u we need to chat or sumthin feel free pm me since u sound honest minded u got me!
    juss as introduction of topice to seprate the right from teh wrong when it comes to relgion first god sent prophets right and we have to start from that ! what message came with ect like we have to go back to the roots ! like wth christianty jesus came with the msg of the gospell not 4 gospels!and he never said: i am god or the son of god
    also chek www.prisonplanet.com good site!

  15. You don't have PM privileges, but you can send me message on myspace if you have account or [email protected] or we can keep talking here.

  16. I have to disagree with you on prison planet Naseem. The guy is a big propaganda machine himself.

  17. Islam historically offers infidels three choices -- death, conversion, or "dhimmihood" -- which is a "protected status" where infidels have fewer rights and must pay extra taxes to the rulers. Over hundreds of years, this "choice" and subsequent treatment tends to destroy all infidel communities, as you can see from the remarkably low numbers of infidels in Muslim countries.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Naseem View Post
    also chek www.prisonplanet.com good site!
    I looked at it for few seconds and I don't think I want to spend any more time on that site. All I could see is "blah, blah, blah" Sorry...

  19. Quote Originally Posted by spitboy2000 View Post
    Islam historically offers infidels three choices -- death, conversion, or "dhimmihood" -- which is a "protected status" where infidels have fewer rights and must pay extra taxes to the rulers. Over hundreds of years, this "choice" and subsequent treatment tends to destroy all infidel communities, as you can see from the remarkably low numbers of infidels in Muslim countries.
    You act as if such an unfortunate socio-economic categorization is, or was, specific to the Muslim religion. The same type of church-endorsed caste systems were prevalent in Judeo-Christian churches [Catholic, especially]. Due to a more 'conservative', traditional, and rigid approach to religion in other centers in the world, coupled with an increasingly secular attitude in the West, we tend to forget that our society and all its unforunate segregation, economically, culturally, etc., is built on the precepts of Judeo-Christian religion.

    Not singling you out, but this attitude of inherent violence within the Muslim religion bothers me. What further bothers me is the reference to a very broad range of ethnicities and cultures as being 'Muslim'. We have come to categorize the 'other' as such, and have even began referring to countries as Muslim countries; nevermind the possibly diverse range of people contained therein. It's a fallacy in the truest sense to refer to people as such; it is akin to referring to Americans or Canadians as Christian countries.

  20. Granted, there have been horrible times of Christian oppression of minorities in the past. However, these oppressions were done in spite of Christ's example. Islam's violence is due precisely to the example of Mohammud, who was a warrior who beheaded men, ordered assasinations, and declared jihad against the infidel a central act of a faithful Muslim.

    Jihad is an essential part of Islam, and is taught by all orthodox schools of Islam as holy war against the infidel to promote Islam. As well, Islam divides the world into the "house of peace" (where Islam rules) and the "house of war" (where Infidels rule). Read a little. Just because you can make a comparison between Islam and other religions does not mean that all religions teach the same thing.

    Most Muslims, I presume, want nothing to do with Jihad or the oppression of infidels. However, to assume there is no problem is silly.

    I recommend www.jihadwatch.org for more info, or of course
    littlegreenfootballs.com

  21. Quote Originally Posted by spitboy2000 View Post
    Granted, there have been horrible times of Christian oppression of minorities in the past. However, these oppressions were done in spite of Christ's example. Islam's violence is due precisely to the example of Mohammud, who was a warrior who beheaded men, ordered assasinations, and declared jihad against the infidel a central act of a faithful Muslim.

    Jihad is an essential part of Islam, and is taught by all orthodox schools of Islam as holy war against the infidel to promote Islam. As well, Islam divides the world into the "house of peace" (where Islam rules) and the "house of war" (where Infidels rule). Read a little. Just because you can make a comparison between Islam and other religions does not mean that all religions teach the same thing.

    Most Muslims, I presume, want nothing to do with Jihad or the oppression of infidels. However, to assume there is no problem is silly.

    I recommend Jihad Watch for more info, or of course
    littlegreenfootballs.com
    Your first mistake is painting the entire religious precept of 'Jihad' under the same brush. There is, in fact, five Jihads, with the Greater Jihad being a solely metaphorical 'war' waged against one's own temptations and sins; the Jihad of least interest to the vast majority of Muslims, yet ironically most referred to by media and individuals such as yourself , is the Lesser Jihad. Perhaps it is you, who should read a little?

    What is silly is to extrapolate a geo-culturally specific phenomena, in which disgruntled youth have been given a maninpulated doctrine, through which to focus pre-determinant anger towards a perceived threat. It is quite right to assume that there exists a very tangible distaste within Middle Eastern youth, this is granted; however, and as I stated before, it is somewhat ignorant to confuse a geo-political struggle with an inherent and systemic violence within a religion.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Not singling you out, but this attitude of inherent violence within the Muslim religion bothers me. What further bothers me is the reference to a very broad range of ethnicities and cultures as being 'Muslim'. We have come to categorize the 'other' as such, and have even began referring to countries as Muslim countries; nevermind the possibly diverse range of people contained therein. It's a fallacy in the truest sense to refer to people as such; it is akin to referring to Americans or Canadians as Christian countries.
    Have you read the Koran? The first two sura's are Mohammed whining about how the Jews rejected his advances, and how they should die.

    As far as diversity in Arab/Muslim countries: can you tell me how many Jews there are in each Muslim country? How are they treated? How about Christians? How are they treated?

    You CAN call them Muslim countries, as most ME countries are Muslim and actively discourage the practice of other religions. The US and other WEstern countries could be referred to as Christian countries, as most of them are based on Judeo-Christian ideals. However, the freedom of expression allowed and vast range of ideas expressed freely bely that description.

    Look, many religions were based in violence. Islam is no exception. The fact is that Islam is where Christianity was 500 years ago. But guess what? Those growing pains are unacceptable. They cost thousands of American lives, so far, along with thousands of other innocents around the world every year. It doesn't really matter what 'true Islam' teaches, just as it likely didn't matter what Jesus really meant when you were being seived in an Iron Maiden by the Inquisition. What matters is how Islam is being taught, and bought, today, and the effect it has on the rest of the world.

    The Bhuddists have it right: the world is a tapestry. Pull one string, and affect the whole thing.

  23. There are about 15000 jews in Iran (Its not an Arab country, officially anyways). Every so often they are attacked for being part of mossad.

  24. I have read the Koran - I was forced to when I was in the IDF. I'm personally a little worried when I see left wing liberals try to convince themselves that the problems of the muslim world are our fault.

    Wanna go to heaven??? Kill a jew. What a wonderful religion. I laughed when I saw the most famous tv show in the arab world - it essentially a version of the Elders of Zion, where Jews must sacrifice a Christian Child to make Matza. Quite amusing, and its why im in favour the Samson option - Kill the entire Middle East.

    Id recommend everyone to go and watch Suicide Bombers - Its a documentary made by a French guy.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by DmitryWI View Post
    You don't have PM privileges, but you can send me message on myspace if you have account or [email protected] or we can keep talking here.
    ok kool i am gonna use that ! thats my mail neva1gi[email protected]
    well for the prisonplanet and infowar.com i think it s good in away of sum informations llike alex jones he is doin good job at investigation!
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