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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    Me? Quiet? Well shyt, negro, you must not be paying attention!! lol I'm on there every single day at work, and then via mobile the rest of the day. HA!!

    Like the vid of the Nagant blasts, too, by the by. I was searching for one recently, and wouldn't you know it, now I can't find one in my local haunts! No big, money isn't there now, but maybe sometime. I still want to get a big'un and put that Archangel stock on it. It'd look bad-azz with a tripod and a cord sling on my show tables!!!
    My FB has been quirky as fukc lately, so that's probably why. I knew it wasn't normal to not see a classic "at work" Tim post. Ha!

    According to a few sources, there is going to be a huge influx of the carbines here this year. Molot from Russia is now refinishing many of the stockpiled Mosin's that were originally slated for destruction in Russia; and are now selling them/exporting to the United States; and of course every importer and their mother is jumping all over them. I'm positive when you have the bones to drop on one they will be around. If not hit me up, we'll get you one.

    I meant to hit you up for the name of that stock. It's bad azz my friend! My need to have a Florida Mosin shoot in the near future.




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    This one is for you, Tim:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    This one is for you, Tim:




    I NEED ONE!!!! DANGIT!!!

    Yeah, I know the name. They're a division of ProMag. (We watch a lot of the same pages, remember? lol) I do want a long barrell, though. If nothing else, just for the aesthetics. My only wish is that I could put a scope on that puppy. That'd complete it. I'm not a great shot, but I greatly prefer a scoped rifle. We shall see!
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    That's pretty sick, but say the Nagant is $150, add in $200 for that stock, at least 10 mags, and you're up to $550; over half way to a mil-spec Rem 700. Add in the fact that it's ProMag and I have serious doubts.

    I'd be perfectly happy with the M44 as is. I only hope I can find them at decent prices when I decide to buy. It's all going up up up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    I NEED ONE!!!! DANGIT!!!

    Yeah, I know the name. They're a division of ProMag. (We watch a lot of the same pages, remember? lol) I do want a long barrell, though. If nothing else, just for the aesthetics. My only wish is that I could put a scope on that puppy. That'd complete it. I'm not a great shot, but I greatly prefer a scoped rifle. We shall see!
    You can definitely scope that bad boy if you wanted too. I know that a reproduction PE sniper scope (Accumounts.com) would work with that furniture stock. You'd have to drill and tap the receiver, but it would definitely work. In essence, you'd be making a very modernized M91/30 PE sniper rifle! I'm in!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    That's pretty sick, but say the Nagant is $150, add in $200 for that stock, at least 10 mags, and you're up to $550; over half way to a mil-spec Rem 700. Add in the fact that it's ProMag and I have serious doubts.

    I'd be perfectly happy with the M44 as is. I only hope I can find them at decent prices when I decide to buy. It's all going up up up.
    You could save a bit on the price by just getting a barreled action instead of the whole gun, but I hear ya. They definitely need to come down on the price of that stock for sure. If it was 100-125 dollars, it would sell like hotcakes.

    Classicarms has a ****load of M44's right now, but they're already flying off the shelves. AIM got some in yesterday; they sold out by the end of the day....and they also had quite a few.

    Don't worry though, there are a ton more coming. Molot has really increased their exports and are targeting US importers on the regular right now. It's sad that the prices of these guns are going up, but in essence, they're still probably the best bang-for-the-buck out there.

    You need one....





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    There are a few things on my immediate list, plenty more for the future if I can get them.

    I don't have a 22lr, so that's a must. Plan to go with the tried and true 10/22.

    I'd like to get another hi-cap handgun, specifically a Glock Gen 4 19 or 17. I love my FNP-40, and would love to get an FNX-9, but since they're not heavily used guns, finding parts is a huge nuisance, especially for my FNP. I have to call FNH tomorrow to try and order a recoil assembly, and I don't even know if they have them.

    The last being a bolt-action. The M44 sounds great, as does a Rem 700 mil-spec. I just have to decide how much I'm willing to shell out. - I could split the difference by getting the M44 and an old Marlin 336 lever, which would be cool too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    There are a few things on my immediate list, plenty more for the future if I can get them.

    I don't have a 22lr, so that's a must. Plan to go with the tried and true 10/22.

    I'd like to get another hi-cap handgun, specifically a Glock Gen 4 19 or 17. I love my FNP-40, and would love to get an FNX-9, but since they're not heavily used guns, finding parts is a huge nuisance, especially for my FNP. I have to call FNH tomorrow to try and order a recoil assembly, and I don't even know if they have them.

    The last being a bolt-action. The M44 sounds great, as does a Rem 700 mil-spec. I just have to decide how much I'm willing to shell out. - I could split the difference by getting the M44 and an old Marlin 336 lever, which would be cool too.
    Glock 17....a must!

    The Ruger 10/22 is just a step above the rest. I don't have one myself, but I shoot my buddies all the time. My .22LR armament consists of a bolt action Savage Mk2 (unbelievably accurate gun) and a Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. I have grown to truly love the .22LR cartridge. It's just plain fun to shoot.

    I want a 19 though as well. I carry a 26, but the 19 still intrigues me. If anything, it's the gun I want my wife to learn to shoot well and have at home.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Glock 17....a must!

    The Ruger 10/22 is just a step above the rest. I don't have one myself, but I shoot my buddies all the time. My .22LR armament consists of a bolt action Savage Mk2 (unbelievably accurate gun) and a Smith and Wesson M&P 15-22. I have grown to truly love the .22LR cartridge. It's just plain fun to shoot.

    I want a 19 though as well. I carry a 26, but the 19 still intrigues me. If anything, it's the gun I want my wife to learn to shoot well and have at home.



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    The issue right now on Glock's is obviously mag availability. They're harder to come by than anything else. I see USGI AR mags sub $17 every day, bought 8 of them myself even though I don't own an AR and plan to buy more...Glock mags, nope. I hardly ever see them. I think Cope's Distributing had some the other day but they're out now, and they weren't cheap either.

    I really want the 17. I hope things calm down long enough for me to get my hands on one and at least 5 mags.

    Does your wife shoot, T? I finally got my wife somewhat interested. She took her CHP class here in NC in January. She really likes shooting my Kahr CW9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    The issue right now on Glock's is obviously mag availability. They're harder to come by than anything else. I see USGI AR mags sub $17 every day, bought 8 of them myself even though I don't own an AR and plan to buy more...Glock mags, nope. I hardly ever see them. I think Cope's Distributing had some the other day but they're out now, and they weren't cheap either.

    I really want the 17. I hope things calm down long enough for me to get my hands on one and at least 5 mags.

    Does your wife shoot, T? I finally got my wife somewhat interested. She took her CHP class here in NC in January. She really likes shooting my Kahr CW9.
    I finally convinced her to learn how to shoot. It only took 5+ years, lol.

    I think now that we have a daughter, it has really hit home about protecting those that you love; because in reality nobody else can. I'm going to have her take the CCW class down here to learn some of the laws/basics. I don't mind if she doesn't want to carry (I always do anyway), but I want her to be able to defend herself and my daughter at home if I'm not there.

    I've been picking up glock mags here and there. They definitely aren't easy to find, but the pop up every now and then. Make sure you check out Botachtactical.com.....and Targetbarn.com (which is a lesser known place and wasn't hit as hard by the hoarders). I just picked up a Glock 21 (27 round mag) on gunbroker.com through botachtactical. It's the glock factory mags that they made extensions for to fit the KRISS Vector (god damn I want one, haha!) They still have a few.

    I LOVE my 1911's, but I would never want to decide between that and my Glock's. They are just too freakin' accurate and reliable to ever resist, haha!

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    Still loving my XDM 45! At first, with the price of ammo, I was like , but now that I can find 45 easier than 9, I'm all like WOOHOO!!!

    For a 22, I have a Heritage Rough Rider that I bought a while ago, but haven't even gotten to shoot it yet. .22 ammo is really hard to come by these days, too. Bummer!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    Still loving my XDM 45! At first, with the price of ammo, I was like , but now that I can find 45 easier than 9, I'm all like WOOHOO!!!

    For a 22, I have a Heritage Rough Rider that I bought a while ago, but haven't even gotten to shoot it yet. .22 ammo is really hard to come by these days, too. Bummer!!

    Irish... did you get my email reply with the pics? Sent a few and wasn't sure if it went through or not. I like to double check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    Still loving my XDM 45! At first, with the price of ammo, I was like , but now that I can find 45 easier than 9, I'm all like WOOHOO!!!

    For a 22, I have a Heritage Rough Rider that I bought a while ago, but haven't even gotten to shoot it yet. .22 ammo is really hard to come by these days, too. Bummer!!


    Irish... did you get my email reply with the pics? Sent a few and wasn't sure if it went through or not. I like to double check.
    The more I see of the XDM 45, the more I like it. It doesn't seem to have that high center of gravity from you grip like some of the other springfield models.

    I agree .45 ACP is easier to find right now. The one caliber I didn't stock up on when I should have (9mm) is a bitch to find now. It's ironic because I have 4 handguns chambered for it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    The more I see of the XDM 45, the more I like it. It doesn't seem to have that high center of gravity from you grip like some of the other springfield models.

    I agree .45 ACP is easier to find right now. The one caliber I didn't stock up on when I should have (9mm) is a bitch to find now. It's ironic because I have 4 handguns chambered for it....
    Ha ha... I have a few hundred rounds of 45, and have a decent deal going for ammo these days. For the cordage, I take cash, credit, check, money order, or ammo as payment. Someone took me up on the ammo bit a few weeks ago. $35-$40 worth of bracelets for around 135 rds of ammo. The short box was just spares, but they were Federal HydraShocks. The other 100rds... dude... Federal HST. LAW. ENFORCEMENT. ONLY. Yup. He was a cop, and I got some of his stash, and that's what I'm carryin' these days! 13 in the cannon plus another 2 mags full in standby. I was QUITE happy with that deal.

    Plus, the SERT officer who is testing out The Operator (my single-point sling) is going to get one, and he'll probably pay in ammo. My price on those is $100, so I'm thinking there's gonna be atleast another 300rds of ammo coming from him. I LOVE cops. I just flat out love 'em!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    Irish... did you get my email reply with the pics? Sent a few and wasn't sure if it went through or not. I like to double check.
    I did; you do an exceptional job! Those are great looking. I just have to decide what the best option would be for me. Any recommendations for a guy that's 5'8" with a wide back? - I'd probably end up getting The Hunter due to the ability to adjust.

    It's going on an Arsenal SGL21-61.

    Oh, and I wanted to ask...those mounts pictured on The Hunter wouldn't be compatible with my AK, but I'm assuming you'd be able to attach a standard hook to it for an AK? That was my main concern...being able to have the right attachment on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post

    Ha ha... I have a few hundred rounds of 45, and have a decent deal going for ammo these days. For the cordage, I take cash, credit, check, money order, or ammo as payment. Someone took me up on the ammo bit a few weeks ago. $35-$40 worth of bracelets for around 135 rds of ammo. The short box was just spares, but they were Federal HydraShocks. The other 100rds... dude... Federal HST. LAW. ENFORCEMENT. ONLY. Yup. He was a cop, and I got some of his stash, and that's what I'm carryin' these days! 13 in the cannon plus another 2 mags full in standby. I was QUITE happy with that deal.

    Plus, the SERT officer who is testing out The Operator (my single-point sling) is going to get one, and he'll probably pay in ammo. My price on those is $100, so I'm thinking there's gonna be atleast another 300rds of ammo coming from him. I LOVE cops. I just flat out love 'em!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I did; you do an exceptional job! Those are great looking. I just have to decide what the best option would be for me. Any recommendations for a guy that's 5'8" with a wide back? - I'd probably end up getting The Hunter due to the ability to adjust.

    It's going on an Arsenal SGL21-61.

    Oh, and I wanted to ask...those mounts pictured on The Hunter wouldn't be compatible with my AK, but I'm assuming you'd be able to attach a standard hook to it for an AK? That was my main concern...being able to have the right attachment on it.

    Really, the style is up to personal preference. They'll all hold and won't break on ya unless you try to tow a truck with it. (And depending on which sling and which truck, you might be able to actually tow anyway!) For connections, show me the mounts and I'll figure it out, I'm sure. I could do HK clips on the ends of it. That would probably work. Here's one on the tail end of The Operator (my single-point bungee):
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    Picked up 150rds of 40sw (50 AE @ $20, 100 Tul @ $30) and 40rds of 7.62x39 ($5.50/bx) today, as well as a new recoil assembly for my FNP-40 should SHTF That was a little pricier than I had hoped, but $26 for peace of mind is fine I guess. Also scored a single mag pouch for my CW9 for $7; got tired of carrying it in my pocket.

    I also saw a pretty BA handguard for my AK but I guess I don't really neeeeeed it right now. I kept from the strong urge to purchase it. It was a Mission First Tactical Tekko. Pretty sick polymer piece with multiple rails:



    All I have on my SGL21 now is the stock furniture, and I'm dying to replace it with this, a vertical grip and a Polish Beryl folder, but I just can't justify an unnecessary expense like that right now.
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    And T-AD, I'm assuming the HK clips would work fine. I'll shoot you an email when I decide to purchase, and I'll try to send some folks your way that need a sling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Nice upper! Thought you were going with green on it? Looks good, though!

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    And T-AD, I'm assuming the HK clips would work fine. I'll shoot you an email when I decide to purchase, and I'll try to send some folks your way that need a sling.
    Much obliged! Feel free to pass the info along to anyone interested. As general info, I take cash, check, money order, PayPal, or ammo. HA!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That's a cerakote finish right, E? That's a nice looking upper, buddy. What are you gonna thread on the end?

    I'm a big fan of the Magpul FDE color.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    got a new knife to match the rifle in progress too knifesmall.jpg
    I have one of these; great knife.

    I've found that "Spyderco" is my go-to EDC company now. Their blades are simply fantastic.... Lightweight, sharp, good steel, ergonomic, and hold a great edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    That's a cerakote finish right, E? That's a nice looking upper, buddy. What are you gonna thread on the end?

    I'm a big fan of the Magpul FDE color.


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    actually, its duracoat on the upper + barrel, and that's the hard anodized color on the quadrail. did the duracoat myself, not too bad. I went with this as a muzzle comp 734627.jpg its also duracoated FDE, but I screwed up on that piece and some of the front face had some of the duracoat scraped off. can't decide yet whether to just sand the face clean and leave the duracoat on the rest, or remove all the duracoat.
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    And I was all over the place colorwise, at one point was just going to leave it black. The lower will come cerakoted magpul FDE finally settled on that with just black accents here + there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    And I was all over the place colorwise, at one point was just going to leave it black. The lower will come cerakoted magpul FDE finally settled on that with just black accents here + there.
    Nice work. I used duracoat on a few guns this past summer. It was my first experience with it, and it really is a trial and error process. The prep is absolutely paramount to a good outcome. At first, I tried the all-in-one duracoat spray kit. It came out ok, but my OCD wasn't satisfied. I bought an air compressor with an air brush and did it that way the second time; Much better outcome.

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    Nice work. I used duracoat on a few guns this past summer. It was my first experience with it, and it really is a trial and error process. The prep is absolutely paramount to a good outcome. At first, I tried the all-in-one duracoat spray kit. It came out ok, but my OCD wasn't satisfied. I bought an air compressor with an air brush and did it that way the second time; Much better outcome.
    I bought the kit with the preval sprayer, worked out ok. I wasn't too worried about parts prep as everything was brand new, so just some brake cleaner and the harsh scrubbing pad they included, plus 600 grit sandpaper on the stainless. I did the buffer tube too, so the only parts that won't be fde are the ejection port cover, the safety levers, the trigger, and for now the pistol grip and stock. I think it will be pretty sharp like that, we'll see
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    Botachtactical got some Glock 21, 22, and 23 mags in for $25 shipped. Good deal for the times. These won't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    IC,

    Botachtactical got some Glock 21, 22, and 23 mags in for $25 shipped. Good deal for the times. These won't last long.

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    Looks like they're OOS already...have you ordered from them before? I've heard some real nasty things about them in another forum I'm on. I'd be a little hesitant to purchase from them.

    Thanks for the heads up though! I definitely need to get some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Looks like they're OOS already...have you ordered from them before? I've heard some real nasty things about them in another forum I'm on. I'd be a little hesitant to purchase from them.

    Thanks for the heads up though! I definitely need to get some.
    Anytime!

    I've ordered tons of stuff over the years and never had any major issues. During the whole "craze" I think they poorly managed upfront with backorders and really screwed themselves. They seem to have fixed it though and not had any similar issues since. I think some people are just impatient as well and don't realize that things happen. There were countless very large gun merchandise etailers that had their sites go down due to unbelievable overload; some sites even voluntarily went down until they caught up.

    Either way, they get a thumbs up from me. They typically ship pretty fast and you can't beat the free shipping. They seem to be one of the better vendors right now in receiving stock on a regular basis. Even if you don't own a Glock yet, the mags alone are worth their weight in gold; especially when the shtf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Anytime!

    I've ordered tons of stuff over the years and never had any major issues. During the whole "craze" I think they poorly managed upfront with backorders and really screwed themselves. They seem to have fixed it though and not had any similar issues since. I think some people are just impatient as well and don't realize that things happen. There were countless very large gun merchandise etailers that had their sites go down due to unbelievable overload; some sites even voluntarily went down until they caught up.

    Either way, they get a thumbs up from me. They typically ship pretty fast and you can't beat the free shipping. They seem to be one of the better vendors right now in receiving stock on a regular basis. Even if you don't own a Glock yet, the mags alone are worth their weight in gold; especially when the shtf.
    Then I'll keep my eye on their inventory and give them a shot.

    I really may have to just suck it up and not make any firearm-related purchases for a couple months. I had to deplete some of my emergency cash recently for some truck repairs and a medical bill. I'm pretty anal with having a set amount in the savings account. I'm also trying to buy as much silver as I can afford to within reason. Add in some other expenditures and there isn't too much to go around.

    Additionally, my wife is super frugal; she hardly ever buys anything for herself. I feel a little guilty even though she never brings up my hobbies in a negative way. I'd like to get her something nice. Even just some new things for Summer.

    Even as a kid my mother always used to tell me I have expensive taste. I was pretty simple, but I always wanted the best. Cigars, beer, powerlifting, computers and guns are my hobbies...not a single thing is cheap.
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    if you guys have never shopped this place http://www.bigsupplyshop.com/ their in stock out of stock is accurate, most orders ship same day, and their prices at least on some things are totally crazy, as much as 15-20% under the next cheapest. That troy quad rail on my build above is a 13.8" and was 195, midway sells it for 240
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    So, get this crap...

    I got an email from Aim Surplus that they had Wolf 223 in stock ($5.99/bx of 20)...been waiting for this moment forever. Hit my inbox at 9:53pm, and I clicked the link at 9:57pm (yes, I looked). - Much to my displeasure, the site was so disastrously bogged down that I couldn't place my order. By the time things were up and running again, it was out of stock.

    I don't understand how so many people were able to wade through that mess.

    Fortunately my 223 is not my go-to rifle, and I have a fair supply of that caliber, but man that irked me. Couldn't even navigate the webpage due to the traffic.
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    BTW, does anyone here have experience with the HK P30? - I have a Serpa CQC holster for my FNP-40 that is actually made for a P30; decided to look the gun up only to find some exceptional reviews. Looks like quite the nice piece.

    Still, I don't know if I'd opt for that over the G17. I keep telling myself I need to get that gun due to its versatility and parts availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    So, get this crap...

    I got an email from Aim Surplus that they had Wolf 223 in stock ($5.99/bx of 20)...been waiting for this moment forever. Hit my inbox at 9:53pm, and I clicked the link at 9:57pm (yes, I looked). - Much to my displeasure, the site was so disastrously bogged down that I couldn't place my order. By the time things were up and running again, it was out of stock.

    I don't understand how so many people were able to wade through that mess.

    Fortunately my 223 is not my go-to rifle, and I have a fair supply of that caliber, but man that irked me. Couldn't even navigate the webpage due to the traffic.
    I had the same thing happen last night and couldn't get through with the .223. They had 7.62x39 earlier in the day that I could have jumped on without any site issues, but I passed. AIM is one of the better places right now; as they get stock in more frequently than the rest it seems; and they're one of the very few that isn't ripping you off either with inflated prices claiming "supply and demand." It's happened a few times recently where the site gets so overloaded that it can't handle the traffic volume and crashes. Yet somehow, people are still ordering...

    This whole "ammo shortage" is starting to become annoying. Not only that, it honestly doesn't make any sense either at this point. You have ammunition manufacturers that are working at full capacity (24 hours/day some of them.) and somehow, there's still little to nothing. I honestly believe that many of these retailers have the ammo, but are only releasing it a little at a time to play off the "supply and demand" marketing tactic. I don't believe for a second that this current situation is as bad as it looks from the outside looking in. Not only are the ammo manufacturers working at full capacity in this country, but we import a ****LOAD of ammo as well (Wolf, Golder Tiger, Fiocchi, Prvi Partisan, Tulammo, Sellier and Bellot, etc); that's not even counting the HUGE amount of foreign military surplus we import (primarily 7.62x54R) right now.

    Ammo isn't even lasting 10-15 minutes on most sites when it's posted. AIM had over 20,000 rounds (with a buying restriction of 500 rounds/order) of 7.62x39 a few weeks back that was sold out in less than 15 minutes. That is just absolutely ridiculous. I have plenty of stored ammo, but I'm not pulling from it to go target shoot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post

    I had the same thing happen last night and couldn't get through with the .223. They had 7.62x39 earlier in the day that I could have jumped on without any site issues, but I passed. AIM is one of the better places right now; as they get stock in more frequently than the rest it seems; and they're one of the very few that isn't ripping you off either with inflated prices claiming "supply and demand." It's happened a few times recently where the site gets so overloaded that it can't handle the traffic volume and crashes. Yet somehow, people are still ordering...

    This whole "ammo shortage" is starting to become annoying. Not only that, it honestly doesn't make any sense either at this point. You have ammunition manufacturers that are working at full capacity (24 hours/day some of them.) and somehow, there's still little to nothing. I honestly believe that many of these retailers have the ammo, but are only releasing it a little at a time to play off the "supply and demand" marketing tactic. I don't believe for a second that this current situation is as bad as it looks from the outside looking in. Not only are the ammo manufacturers working at full capacity in this country, but we import a ****LOAD of ammo as well (Wolf, Golder Tiger, Fiocchi, Prvi Partisan, Tulammo, Sellier and Bellot, etc); that's not even counting the HUGE amount of foreign military surplus we import (primarily 7.62x54R) right now.

    Ammo isn't even lasting 10-15 minutes on most sites when it's posted. AIM had over 20,000 rounds (with a buying restriction of 500 rounds/order) of 7.62x39 a few weeks back that was sold out in less than 15 minutes. That is just absolutely ridiculous. I have plenty of stored ammo, but I'm not pulling from it to go target shoot.

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    The government is creating an artificial shortage by purchasing billions of rounds. Pretty good way to keep ammo out of the hands of citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    The government is creating an artificial shortage by purchasing billions of rounds. Pretty good way to keep ammo out of the hands of citizen.
    It was all through a private government contractor though (Evian Group Inc), so it still doesn't add up with all the domestic ammo companies we have here in the states (and foreign) working at near/full capacity right now on a daily basis.

    Their ammo build up is obviously gearing up for "something" domestically; that's for sure. Even the mainstream media has finally started reporting/questioning it.....FINALLY!

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