POLICE STATE 2011: 6 year old girl groped then drug tested by TSA

[specmike]

If people and especially the kids parents don't blow it out of proportion, none of these kids will be permanently damaged. We're spoiled here in the USA.

[ax1]

If people and especially the kids parents don't blow it out of proportion, none of these kids will be permanently damaged. We're spoiled here in the USA.

So your saying its ok for strangers to be groping kids in public, and that as long as the parents to make a big deal out of it they will be fine?

Some people are spoiled yes...but what has made the USA special is that we dont have to subdue to the higher authority which is slowly fading away for "security" reasons.

[specmike]

So your saying its ok for strangers to be groping kids in public, and that as long as the parents to make a big deal out of it they will be fine?

Nope. That is not what I am saying. I am saying that if you choose to get on an airplane, that the lawful authorities in uniform we have in place at this time may search you. This isn't Chester the Molester hiding in the little boys section at Wal Mart.

If you don't like it, don't get on a plane.

[Conagher]

This is very sad but if a person can stick a weapon up their butt they will use a child in a heart beat to traffic things through security. It's one of those things that is very offensive, yet if a terrorist straped a weapon to their child and got through security everyone would be mad they got through and say security failed. Where's the balance? It's extremely hard to balance.

If we allow ourselves to be so afraid that we find the fondling of children acceptable,then the terrorist have already beaten us.
I would rather die with honor than to allow this type of ****.

[ax1]

Nope. That is not what I am saying. I am saying that if you choose to get on an airplane, that the lawful authorities in uniform we have in place at this time may search you. This isn't Chester the Molester hiding in the little boys section at Wal Mart.

If you don't like it, don't get on a plane.

TSA are not doctors, they are low wage workers just like they are at Wall Mart.

Actually...I did post about a TSA agent raping a 14 year old girl, and what worries me anyone who has a fetish for children would love to have a TSA job.

They are just regular people, and I do feel most people are good people but Chester the Molester could already be or is looking for a TSA job right now.

Child rape charge rocks TSA
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/reg...icleid=1238602

TSA worker arrested for molesting 12 year old girl
http://beyondthecurtain.wordpress.co...year-old-girl/

10,000 Child Porn Images Found On Ex-TSA Worker’s Computer
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...94/detail.html

TSA Office Caught With ‘Child Cavity Search Cartoon’ on Computer
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.co...n-on-computer/

Woman: TSA Agents Singled Me Out For My Breasts
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/25902334/detail.html

Hartsfield TSA worker allegedly abducts, assaults woman
http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/hart...ly-751953.html

TSA criminals
TSA officers arrested after allegedly stealing $40,000
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02...k.tsa.arrests/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...71G08I20110217

[specmike]

Like I said, if you don't like it, don't get on a plane.

Villifying the TSA is too easy here. You may as well stop trusting all firemen, policemen, priets, boy scout troup leaders, school teachers, etc etc etc and lock yourself in your home. Every one of those examples has had their share of pedophile incidents because of the predatory nature of pedophiles.

Yeah, TSA has its problems but the problems are the result of terrorists. Don't lose sight of what has really caused all this.

FWIW, I think rape and child molestation should be a death penalty sentence. I'm not defending any of those scumbags.

[AE14]

I gotta say, as the father of an 8 year old girl, I would have been absolutely furious if this was my daughter. We have given away one freedom after another since 9-11, it has gone too overboard imo

[swollen87]

Well....it would effect you if a plane happened to blow up and land on your house. Plane crashes have happened in communities in the past.

Nobody wants any kids having bombs strapped on, but it gets to the point of it being ridiculous. I dont want to get shot on the street, perhaps every home should have a metal detector on their front doors too.

Not trying to be a pecker here to you, I do agree some security is necessary. Just saying...some people view things differently. I for one think that that 6 year old may have some issues when she grows up, its more than civil liberties that is a concern. If someone did that pat down to you in the park they would go to jail.

have you ever been to jail?

that pat-down was nothing...

the officer HAS to do their job.... theres a possiblity of hundreds of people dying if one scumbag 10 year old makes it through... (upstanding citizens)

in jail, they basically need to see UP your ******* to make sure youre not smuggling anything in.... TO PROTECT OTHER CRIMINALS



that 6 year old will be just fine....... nobodys gunna be emotionally scarred from a pat down... ive been getting a pat down EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY for the past 20 months... and my P.O. need to see the tip of my **** 2 sometimes 3 times a week.... nbd


im not embarrased or mad, hes doing his job making sure *******s like me arent out getting high and terrorizing the public...


people should feel blessed that our country is doing what it can to help keep its citizens safe...

[DAdams91982]

I gotta say, as the father of an 8 year old girl, I would have been absolutely furious if this was my daughter. We have given away one freedom after another since 9-11, it has gone too overboard imo

Wow... some common sense.

Please anyone tell me what these new security measures have garnered us. I will wait by while you think about that. Did they stop the underwear bomber? Nope, the people on the plan did. How about the shoe bomber? Wait, nope.

How about real security? Nadda.

What have gotten is a scared mentality because the terrorist have won this battle. The whole point of terrorism is to disrupt your way of life, and that is exactly what has happened.

The TSA are a bunch of hacks who have a power trip. Every time I fly they are absolutely rude for no reason whatsoever, being rough with the elderly asinine to anyone who asks them a question. They are high school drop outs who couldn't make it, bottom line. If you think the TSA makes you safer you are sadly mistaken and are definitely drinking the purple government kool aide. The TSA was the lowest bidder for air port security to the feds, that is all, they are the federal reserve of air port security. Most of which lacks the one thing that is truly required of security people, the ability to read people and point out something that is even slightly off about someones behavior. Instead we douse ourselves with radiation that builds up in your body over your lifetime and think a computer will figure it out.

Man has been out thinking computers since they were invented.

[specmike]

I'm starting a pool on how long it takes someone to throw in the Ben Franklin quote:

“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security”.

[ax1]

have you ever been to jail?

that pat-down was nothing...

im not embarrased or mad, hes doing his job making sure *******s like me arent out getting high and terrorizing the public...


people should feel blessed that our country is doing what it can to help keep its citizens safe...

No never had been in prison but I know people. Im a law abiding citizen.

Even with those prison pat-downs its amazing the arsenal of drugs that still get through anyways, isnt it?

I feel blessed that my country (USA) is keeping us safe...but what I support is just good old fashioned police work.

We should be supporting the police, pay them more, give them their resources, their funds, their benefits...and have good old fashioned police/detective work protecting us from crime/terrorism, not TSA and billionaires selling their toxic airport equipment. Sent the funds to the cops not rich people and TSA. The money is there, use it right.

[drinkyboy]

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Im sure none of the TSA workers are "getting off" by patting a child down. Nobody has been caught using these precautions because the "terrorists" see what they are doing and have no way around it. Its a "damned if ya do, damned if ya dont" type deal. As stated above, if you dont like it, dont fly. People need to inform their children about current events and let them know about the times we are living in. I feel like these people are looking for an easy way to make some cash and this happens to be an easy target. I never knew they hire pedafiles in the TSA. Its news to me lol.

[swollen87]

No never had been in prison but I know people. Im a law abiding citizen.

Even with those prison pat-downs its amazing the arsenal of drugs that still get through anyways, isnt it?

I feel blessed that my country (USA) is keeping us safe...but what I support is just good old fashioned police work.

We should be supporting the police, their resources, their funds, their benefits...and have good old fashioned police/detective work protecting us, not TSA and billionaires selling their toxic airport equipment. Sent the funds to the cops not rich people and TSA. The money is there, use it right.

i agree with what your saying... there should probably be cops in the airport... WAIT... last time i was there there were dogs, ak47s men in army fatigue ect.... im pretty sure the govt is spending PLENTY of money preventing scum from ruining america any more....


but i really could care less... if someone is making sure bombs arent getting on planes and killing innocent people/my family/anyone....im happy


im the kind of person that would enjoy seeing people get all worked up over a pat down in an airport... thats entertainment...

[AE14]

i agree with what your saying... there should probably be cops in the airport... WAIT... last time i was there there were dogs, ak47s men in army fatigue ect.... im pretty sure the govt is spending PLENTY of money preventing scum from ruining america any more....


but i really could care less... if someone is making sure bombs arent getting on planes and killing innocent people/my family/anyone....im happy


im the kind of person that would enjoy seeing people get all worked up over a pat down in an airport... thats entertainment...

1 question....do you have children?

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Im sure none of the TSA workers are "getting off" by patting a child down. Nobody has been caught using these precautions because the "terrorists" see what they are doing and have no way around it. Its a "damned if ya do, damned if ya dont" type deal. As stated above, if you dont like it, dont fly. People need to inform their children about current events and let them know about the times we are living in. I feel like these people are looking for an easy way to make some cash and this happens to be an easy target. I never knew they hire pedafiles in the TSA. Its news to me lol.

TO be honest, I dont know if any are "getting off" however, the slightest chance that someone is tells me right away how wrong this is. Again, we have certain freedoms in this country, that to me should not be infringed upon. My personal, physical privacy is amongst them

I'm starting a pool on how long it takes someone to throw in the Ben Franklin quote:

Its a good quote, and bear in mind, our founding fathers revolted for what I might deem as less reprehensible crimes

[DAdams91982]

I see nothing wrong with this at all. Im sure none of the TSA workers are "getting off" by patting a child down. Nobody has been caught using these precautions because the "terrorists" see what they are doing and have no way around it. Its a "damned if ya do, damned if ya dont" type deal. As stated above, if you dont like it, dont fly. People need to inform their children about current events and let them know about the times we are living in. I feel like these people are looking for an easy way to make some cash and this happens to be an easy target. I never knew they hire pedafiles in the TSA. Its news to me lol.

Really? You are claiming that the full body scanners are a complete success after less than a year? I am PRETTY sure there was well over a year between 9-11 and the underwear bomber, so maybe it is a bit premature to call it a success. Any common idiot can sit down and find ways to penetrate that impenetrable security.

As for who they hire... come on man. If you are a warm body they will hire you, I do believe you have gone through a security check point and see they are not the cream of society correct? It was just two weeks ago here in missouri that a grade school teacher was secretly video taping the young girls in he class from a low angle... unless you are implying they knowingly hire pedofiles!?

[specmike]

Its a good quote, and bear in mind, our founding fathers revolted for what I might deem as less reprehensible crimes

I like it but then I think we all need to decide if getting on an airplane is an essential liberty. TSA, while not ideal, is not preventing the general population from flying. It's just not as convenient as it used to be. There are other forms of travel available that can take you anywhere on this planet. It just takes longer and is less convenient. So, no, air travel is NOT an essential liberty.

Then, we move on to what is or is not reasonable in a search. Based on the methods we have seen employed by terrorists and the fact that no US planes have been succesfully bombed or hijacked since 911, that might be prima facie evidence that at least some of what we have TSA doing IS working.

Pedophiles and TSA related crimes aside, when you consider the potential for disaster, I have no issue at all with what TSA does. Just ask the families of the Pan Am 103 Lockerbie bombing victims, flight 93 in PA, or the other flights involved in 911 what they might consider unreasonable now.

Do a Google search. Over the past 5 years, more priests and others from the groups I listed above have been arrested for theft, child molestation, and worse than the TSA. Yet, no one is yelling about that. Let's disband the Boy Scouts of America, ban altar boys in church, eliminate teachers, et al and all the evil incompetent organizations that hire pedophiles.

[DAdams91982]

Then, we move on to what is or is not reasonable in a search. Based on the methods we have seen employed by terrorists and the fact that no US planes have been succesfully bombed or hijacked since 911, that might be prima facie evidence that at least some of what we have TSA doing IS working.

That is a logical fallacy considering the TSA security points have been breached how many times? TSA has been beaten time and time again. Just that the people are either idiots in their plot, or the people stopped them.

So then, how many time before 9-11 without all these unnecessary checks?

Read some Bruce Schneier and then come back and tell me how the TSA is making us safer.

[specmike]

That is a logical fallacy considering the TSA security points have been breached how many times? TSA has been beaten time and time again. Just that the people are either idiots in their plot, or the people stopped them.

So then, how many time before 9-11 without all these unnecessary checks?

Read some Bruce Schneier and then come back and tell me how the TSA is making us safer.

That's why I qualified my statement with the word "some" of what TSA is doing. So, no, it's not a fallacy.

[DAdams91982]

That's why I qualified my statement with the word "some" of what TSA is doing. So, no, it's not a fallacy.

Beyond Fear.. that was the book I was thinking of.. check it out.

[specmike]

Beyond Fear.. that was the book I was thinking of.. check it out.

I'll add it to my reading list. Ironically, I buy a book to read every time I fly so I may read it on 1 of my 2 upcoming trips. And, one of these days, I'll take time to type up how I breeched TSA security last year