Originally Posted by beastmode99

because there's no point to it.

well can't it be functional depending on the exercises?. I know in wrestling practice we'll whip out 100 squats or pushups etc. and in Muay Thai we'll do 100 kicks in a row. so exercises like calf raises, leg extensions, front db raises side laterals etc for high rep schemes work very well to increase endurance for fighting. Isn't this the same concept?

Originally Posted by mixedup

well can't it be functional depending on the exercises?. I know in wrestling practice we'll whip out 100 squats or pushups etc. and in Muay Thai we'll do 100 kicks in a row. so exercises like calf raises, leg extensions, front db raises side laterals etc for high rep schemes work very well to increase endurance for fighting. Isn't this the same concept?

Touche. To better illustrate, to the average strength increasing /mass building /body sculpting male who usually inhabits the gym world, this form of excercising is utterly useless. Repping out 100 reps of anything is great for helping out your cardiovascular fitness, although not so for the goals listed above. Guejsn was right in pointing out that there are better ways of going about getting cardiovascular endurance to increase though. In wrestling and Muay Thai or boxing they will have you train specific excercises cardio wise, that you will be using in a match, so that you are used to the movements when you have to use them and won't tire out as fast by doing a movement your body isn't used to. Our bodies adapt to specific excercises very well. Paint the fence Daniel San. Wax the car Daniel San.

Originally Posted by mixedup

well can't it be functional depending on the exercises?. I know in wrestling practice we'll whip out 100 squats or pushups etc. and in Muay Thai we'll do 100 kicks in a row. so exercises like calf raises, leg extensions, front db raises side laterals etc for high rep schemes work very well to increase endurance for fighting. Isn't this the same concept?

That's NOTHING alike. If you want endurance for something SPECIFIC you TRAIN IN it, as if simulating it (i.e. what you do for wrestling or Muay Thai); you don't just do random exercises (regardless of whether they are functional or not) for it. Which is what is said here:

Originally Posted by TheLastRonin

...In wrestling and Muay Thai or boxing they will have you train specific excercises cardio wise, that you will be using in a match, so that you are used to the movements when you have to use them and won't tire out as fast by doing a movement your body isn't used to...

My goal was to gain muscle endurance, strength, tighten and harden muscles. In the 4 wks time I actualy went down 4 pant sizes(8 to a 4) increased strength, lost 2% BF and gained major muscle hardness and definition. If YOU have the will power and GUTS try it YOU might like it!!!

Originally Posted by sweatntears

My goal was to gain muscle endurance, strength, tighten and harden muscles. In the 4 wks time I actualy went down 4 pant sizes(8 to a 4) increased strength, lost 2% BF and gained major muscle hardness and definition.

Didna read what we wrote did ya lassie. If you managed to do ALL that on that ridiculous workout plan then imagine what would have happened if you worked out properly.

If YOU have the will power and GUTS try it YOU might like it!!!

It has NOTHING to do with POWER or GUTS lol, more like cardiovascular fitness centred on specific movements . If you think you have power, try a powerlifting or even better olympic style workout for the day. Balls to the wall.Stick with it for a month, traing as hard as you can..then tell me your previous workout took guts.
P.S. what did your magic diet consist of?

Originally Posted by sweatntears

My goal was to gain muscle endurance, strength, tighten and harden muscles. In the 4 wks time I actualy went down 4 pant sizes(8 to a 4) increased strength, lost 2% BF and gained major muscle hardness and definition. If YOU have the will power and GUTS try it YOU might like it!!!

I doubt that you would have gained musch strength on such a routine (as you said yourself, you were using LIGHT weights). With diet and exercise alone 0.5% BF loss per week is the norm, so no surprises there. With that amount of volume your muscle WOULD be hard (very pumped for sure), and if you lost fat and were relatuvely lean then you would get definition. A size 8 to size 4 is actually only TWO sizes (i.e. 8, 6, 4), but good on you. And it's not about willpower or guts at all (doing high reps at a light weight is nothing); I have done VERY high-LOAD training sessions many times before (that use HEAVY weight), and ALL of my training is INTENSE. It's all about the individual. As said, there are MORE effective ways to achieve the goals you wanted.

i need me a lady that kicks ass in the gym. they are way too rare.

Originally Posted by jumpcannon

i need me a lady that kicks ass in the gym. they are way too rare.

Come to Los Angeles. I think I can teach you a lesson or two. LOL. J/K.

Originally Posted by Loretta

Come to Los Angeles. I think I can teach you a lesson or two. LOL. J/K.

you got a place i can stay and a partime job i can work ill consider it

and hello ladies, didnt read the thread yet but ill go back and catchup, crader causing trouble in here?

Originally Posted by nycste

you got a place i can stay and a partime job i can work ill consider it

Sorry. You will have to find your own place and job. I don't want any deadbeat men in my life! LOL.

Originally Posted by Loretta

Sorry. You will have to find your own place and job. I don't want any deadbeat men in my life! LOL.

ouch... i guess i get the cold shoulder for moving across the country for you.... maybe i should run myself outta this thread before i get over my head

Originally Posted by nycste

ouch... i guess i get the cold shoulder for moving across the country for you.... maybe i should run myself outta this thread before i get over my head

Sorry, I thought we were joking and being silly here. I apologize that I was too realistic in my response to you.

Originally Posted by Loretta

Sorry, I thought we were joking and being silly here. I apologize that I was too realistic in my response to you.

all good just didnt know if you were serious or not


so ladies, there is a lady in my gym who wears the typical spandex like outfit and some additions to her chest, shes older then me prob in 30s or 40s and checks me out often and i of course check her out too

ive been too afraid to say something but honestly id just like to say hi and introduce myself and make a workout partner and see whats up

ooo the best part is she actaully lifts weights and i find that so sexy, not afraid to share my feelings haha

Try to make friends in her circle. This gives you instant credibility if you are preapproved by her friends at the gym. Then start casual and see where that takes you...if she's a true "cougar," then she may be unexpectedly forward with you and she'll make it easy (bonus!).

Originally Posted by nycste

ive been too afraid to say something but honestly id just like to say hi and introduce myself and make a workout partner and see whats up

That's a good start. Women love it when men aren't shy. When we feel that men are shy, we eat it up. LOL.

i definitely applaud the woman who aren't afraid of the iron.


problem is most women at my gym think if they touch a weight that's not coated in pink rubber they'll drop testicals in a moments notice.

Originally Posted by natty texan

i definitely applaud the woman who aren't afraid of the iron.


problem is most women at my gym think if they touch a weight that's not coated in pink rubber they'll drop testicals in a moments notice.

That's most females. And it's ironic that they all want the hard, sexy bodies of women who DO lift weights. They just never realize the WORK that goes into looking good. And those women I cannot take seriously.

Anyways, yes, a female that ACTUALLY trains SERIOUSLY (and not just cardio or with 2.2lb weights) is a GOOD thing. I wish more were like that. But hey, training with the boys is always better

Originally Posted by Guejsn

That's most females. And it's ironic that they all want the hard, sexy bodies of women who DO lift weights. They just never realize the HARD WORK that goes into looking good.

Anyways, yes, females that ACTUALLY train SERIOUSLY (and not just cardio or with 2.2lb weights) are a GOOD thing. I wish more were like that. But hey, training with the boys is always better

me too.

i made a mistake in my most recent relationship.

the girl didn't want a boyfriend with big muscles and i was recovering from a blown out knee when i met her so i never started lifting again.

she dumped me about a month ago. boy i felt dumb.

I wont date another girl that doesn't at least let me respect my own body. I'd rather find a girl I could lift with, but as i said they don't exist in my town.

I live in texas' version of laguna beach or whatever that t.v. show was called.

Originally Posted by natty texan

i definitely applaud the woman who aren't afraid of the iron.


problem is most women at my gym think if they touch a weight that's not coated in pink rubber they'll drop testicals in a moments notice.

Mine haven't come in yet, so I think I'm in the clear!

Originally Posted by Guejsn

That's most females. And it's ironic that they all want the hard, sexy bodies of women who DO lift weights. They just never realize the WORK that goes into looking good. And those women I cannot take seriously.

Anyways, yes, a female that ACTUALLY trains SERIOUSLY (and not just cardio or with 2.2lb weights) is a GOOD thing. I wish more were like that. But hey, training with the boys is always better

I think a lot of this is because hollywood actresses tell the public that they don't really workout a lot they were just gifted...either that or they acheived it by just doing yoga. BS! They don't pay their trainers $300 a session to help them breathe and pose.

This thread is frackin' sweet. I loooove me some ladies lifting heavy

Originally Posted by Guejsn

That's most females. And it's ironic that they all want the hard, sexy bodies of women who DO lift weights. They just never realize the WORK that goes into looking good. And those women I cannot take seriously.

Anyways, yes, a female that ACTUALLY trains SERIOUSLY (and not just cardio or with 2.2lb weights) is a GOOD thing. I wish more were like that. But hey, training with the boys is always better

Oh so true, Nat was telling me today that a girl came up to her in the gym and said she wanted to look like me and Nat but that she could never do it. She said she does not have the genetics. I think its easier for them to make excuses then to admit they just dont have the willpower to lift and eat correct. Then they can tell themselves, well its not my fault..sigh.

I'm always up to help someone, but the moment they show me that its just a waste of time I'm out! If you show me you can try and put in the time, do as your told and lift and eat right I am right there to encourage.

Originally Posted by crader

Oh so true, Nat was telling me today that a girl came up to her in the gym and said she wanted to look like me and Nat but that she could never do it. She said she does not have the genetics. I think its easier for them to make excuses then to admit they just dont have the willpower to lift and eat correct. Then they can tell themselves, well its not my fault..sigh.

I'm always up to help someone, but the moment they show me that its just a waste of time I'm out! If you show me you can try and put in the time, do as your told and lift and eat right I am right there to encourage.

That is why I quit my stint personal training people back in the day. I hate trying to mold someone and help them help themselves then they just quit or give up, even if they are seeing amazing results!!I loathe quitters.

Originally Posted by natty texan

me too.

i made a mistake in my most recent relationship.

the girl didn't want a boyfriend with big muscles and i was recovering from a blown out knee when i met her so i never started lifting again.

she dumped me about a month ago. boy i felt dumb.

I wont date another girl that doesn't at least let me respect my own body. I'd rather find a girl I could lift with, but as i said they don't exist in my town.

I live in texas' version of laguna beach or whatever that t.v. show was called.

What you need is someone who supports you in your body goals; who you can train with and who shares similar (if not the same) lifestyle habits. It goes both ways, though. Females like myself prefer a partner who lives and loves this lifestyle; who will push us to our limits; who isn't intimidated by a woman that lifts weights and is strong and powerful and independent; and who finds that muscle sexy (muscle is far sexier than fat skinny period).

Originally Posted by littlejeni

I think a lot of this is because hollywood actresses tell the public that they don't really workout a lot they were just gifted...either that or they acheived it by just doing yoga. BS! They don't pay their trainers $300 a session to help them breathe and pose.

Nope. They just eat next to nothing or do cardio (or ARE the girls with the little pink dumbbells). And those that DO train (like Jessica Biel or Jennifer Garner) certainly never got like that through yoga...

Originally Posted by crader

Oh so true, Nat was telling me today that a girl came up to her in the gym and said she wanted to look like me and Nat but that she could never do it. She said she does not have the genetics. I think its easier for them to make excuses then to admit they just dont have the willpower to lift and eat correct. Then they can tell themselves, well its not my fault..sigh.

I'm always up to help someone, but the moment they show me that its just a waste of time I'm out! If you show me you can try and put in the time, do as your told and lift and eat right I am right there to encourage.

Yup. Females are like that (the large majority of them). People love to make excuses. Genetics has a little to do with the potential of your body, but not that much, and you can become what you want with the desire, discipline, committment and hard work.

I personally do NOT like to train females, because they do NOT listen to a thing you say, and when they ask a question and hear the TRUTH then they don't really want to know it (almost as if they are just looking for someone to confirm theit misplaced ideas about training). Males are a lot better; and I can push them and can be blunt and it's also motivating for them to have a FEMALE trainer who can do that.

But anyways, I shall finish my tiny rant now.

Originally Posted by natty texan

me too.

i made a mistake in my most recent relationship.

the girl didn't want a boyfriend with big muscles and i was recovering from a blown out knee when i met her so i never started lifting again.

she dumped me about a month ago. boy i felt dumb.

I wont date another girl that doesn't at least let me respect my own body. I'd rather find a girl I could lift with, but as i said they don't exist in my town.

I live in texas' version of laguna beach or whatever that t.v. show was called.

And I'll never date a guy who doesn't work out or doesn't allow me to work out either. I have dated guys who didn't go to the gym and I have dated guys who couldn't handle my buffness. So, I would let myself "go" while I was in that relationship.

I just changed my avatar. I took this picture today. Compare this to the old one in my photo album.

Originally Posted by crader

I'm always up to help someone, but the moment they show me that its just a waste of time I'm out! If you show me you can try and put in the time, do as your told and lift and eat right I am right there to encourage.

Same here. There is a guy in my gym who told me who wanted to start lifting with me after the New Year 2009. He came back to me and started making whimpy excuses like he has back therapy and can't do any exercises standing up or whatever. I just told him that I can't afford to slow down. I still see him at the gym. He's still doing swaying barbell curls and bent-over exercises. Bad back, huh? LOL.

And don't ask me about his physique.

What you need is someone who supports you in your body goals; who you can train with and who shares similar (if not the same) lifestyle habits. It goes both ways, though. Females like myself prefer a partner who lives and loves this lifestyle; who will push us to our limits; who isn't intimidated by a woman that lifts weights and is strong and powerful and independent; and who finds that muscle sexy (muscle is far sexier than fat skinny period).

mkay,

love at first....post?

Originally Posted by Loretta

And I'll never date a guy who doesn't work out or doesn't allow me to work out either. I have dated guys who didn't go to the gym and I have dated guys who couldn't handle my buffness. So, I would let myself "go" while I was in that relationship.

I just changed my avatar. I took this picture today. Compare this to the old one in my photo album.

great improvements.

very sexy.


ya'll are my kinda women.

ah, so i went to the gym at a weird time for me and there was finally a girl in the weight room....



I did all i could not to stare.


It was like an angel....with 20's in her hands.

Originally Posted by natty texan

ah, so i went to the gym at a weird time for me and there was finally a girl in the weight room....

I did all i could not to stare.

It was like an angel....with 20's in her hands.

Wow, awesome. What exercises was she doing?

If you can get excited from 20-lb DBs, I can get you going with 75s while doing flat bench pressing.