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Guys how to execute the right bicep curl? lock out at the buttom and top?
like never let ure wrist go parellel to ure forearm. Alot of people bend there wrist towards their bicep. Bend it always away towards tricep. When curling up u dont ever lock out. U get to where ure biceps are completly squeezed and go down. Bicep curls should be thought of as a push excercise and not a pulling one. Ure pushing out and up and squezing ure peak...
The axis of rotation for wrist flexion plays a minute role in elbow flexion. Varying the angles of rotation at the wrist will reduce torque slightly due to the reduction in the force arm; however, it does not invalidate a legitimate bicep curl.yeah if u flex ure wrist towards ure bicep. Im saying keep ure wrist back...do it right now with no weight...i just did...i feel a million times better squeeze in my bicep with my wrist back.
I didn't question whether elbow flexion is effected by varying degrees of wrist flexion. I even stated that it would, slightly. However, no matter the degree of wrist flexion the bicep brachii is generating muscle force and when the sum of all torques is greater than 0 you'll get counter clockwise elbow flexion. To sum this up, the degree of the wrist with respect to the forearm has nothing to do with the force that the bicep brachii is capable of generating. Personal experience or not, science proves this.dude im telling ya from personal experience it does...I can probally do 40 pounds more if my wrists are forward then back...How does wrist felxion torsion explain that?? Keeping ure wrists back keeps ure form and keeps constant tension on ure bicep peak. Its like doing pec flys and not keeping ure shoulder blades tucked...
Nope Nope Nope. The musculoskeletal system works exactly like levers, and wrist flexion DOES NOT put more strain (strain is the change in length of an object). Read above, I don't like repeating myself. You really should take a biomechanics class before you talk about things which you know nothing about.muscles dont work just like levers bro. Yeah wrist flexion can put a more constant strain on the bicep muscles. Often times by not doing it other muscles take over that arent the bicep
Guys how to execute the right bicep curl? lock out at the buttom and top?
Excellent call. Good to see that some people know what they are talking about.Personal experience or not, science proves this.
Experience tells us that not everyone who smokes will die of disease or even that their life will be shortend and this can contradict what collective expert medical opinions come up with.Experiences you gain from the gym, such as what does and doesn't work for you or for others, can contradict what expert exercise physiologist come up with. Just saying...
That's way too much.i think i overtrained my bicep, been doin 3x a week bicep... and 6 sets each exercise day...
Firstly, it's not exercise physiology, it's biomechanics. And Secondly, science will never be beat by some guy that has worked out in the gym for 5 years. As far as mechanics goes, it will always be the same if you're human.Experiences you gain from the gym, such as what does and doesn't work for you or for others, can contradict what expert exercise physiologist come up with. Just saying...
Just at the bottom, keep a slightly flex at the elbow join. As far as the top goes, once the forearm is above 90 degrees (parallel with the floor) the brachialis and brachioradialis take over in stabilization of the elbow join. So, you will be fine.So no lock out at the buttom and top. i hope theres some video i can see.
You're joking right? If you're a kinesiology major, you should rethink paying attention in class then. Everything you just said is completely incorrect.it aint bro logic...im a kinesiology major. Im saying that all ure lever action stuff makes sense in theory, but not necessarlly in practice. I have no idea what ure talking about with angular velocity though and i dont know why velocity would ever play a role in a bicep curl. I say always keep ure elbows out in front of ure body...bicep curls should be thought of as a pushing motion and not so much as a pulling motion
I don't believe a thing that you've said, considering everything you have said is incorrect. Secondly, with your elbow tucked back 'slightly' parallel with torso and perpendicular to the floor you can generate a much greater angular velocity, which if you're a kinesiology major you'd know the role that angular kinetics and kinematics plays in exercise. Also, bicep curls ARE a pulling exercise, and not a pushing exercise (that would be triceps).u really gotta take the stuff out of the books and into context. Where have u apprenticed at? Ive learned about 90 percent of the stuff i learned in the classroom is quite useless outside of it. Ive apprenticed at a sports performance and rehabilatation place, minor league baseball facility and with a renound bodybuilding coach. I think if u said keeping ure elbows back was a good idea hed laugh at you. Do u also roll ure shoulder forward when u curl? Are ure knees tucked together and slightly bend? Theres so much u never learn in the clasroom
Just like the chest press...? So now I don't know if I should do Bis on back or chest day. I'm soooo confused!...bicep curls should be thought of as a pushing motion and not so much as a pulling motion
So keeping your elbows out in front of your body changes a bicep curl from a pull to a push?
You do know that strength coaches for any sports teams are mostly exercise physiologists. So, you're saying your experience is more respected than a PhD in Exercise Physiology? Apparently so, because their knowledge must not work out on the field.Dude im not trying to be a prick or anything....Im just saying it should be thought of as a pushing excercise and not a pulling one even though it is a pulling excercise. I really dont care if u belive what i say im just trying to help this person out. Not trying to prove my overall dominence in vocabulary or knowledge. Take ure knowledge to the feild and see how all that stuff works in a game or by actual results
And biceps are useless on the feild anyways so that doesnt even make sense....just something for vanity. When u do curls does ure forearm ever touch any part of ure bicep?
I lift as well, and everything I've learned applies. If what you say is true, then why does it require a masters / doctorate to be a strength coach and not just 'experience'. I'll tell you why. It keeps people like you from passing along incorrect knowledge.Alrite guys, u win. Its quite evident u dont get that enough and youve never played a college sport. But please get ure heads out of webster and start applying this stuff to actaul real life experience.... There was no arguement made..just a suggestion to keep ure wrist back to allow u to get a better squeze and contraction of your bicep...Thats it. You can think what you want about lifting and refer to books, but ill mail u my teams strength program and you can see.. Theres a lot of stuff you will never learn in the classroom and thats it thats the point.
I can admit that it's probably the only thing you didn't fail at. Your experience means d*ck compared to decades of scientific research. I just hope you don't cause anyone to injure themselves listening to your ignorant advice. I'm done with you. Pick up a book, you might learn something.Ill take experience over being educated any day.
I'll take both.Ill take experience over being educated any day.
Everyone has different goals for lifting. It would be like comparing apples and oranges.We could always make this a contest and run a log against each other or something if you want. Have some constructive critcism and such...
And even if we all had the same goals, in relation to the OPs question, this would prove...?We could always make this a contest and run a log against each other or something if you want. Have some constructive critcism and such...
That we recognized someone was throwing him Bro Sci advice and called that individual out on it?i think u guys took it way far from the OP's question already......
If you were reading you would have noticed that while correcting you, I answered the OP's question.i think u guys took it way far from the OP's question already......
So since you've posted advice, let me ask you, why would leaning forward be a bad idea for a bicep curl...?ok you guys need to stop arguing it was a suggestion not a demand leave it at that, for bicep curls start off low to make sure you get good form not swinging your body to make the weight go up not hunching or leaning forward or backward to get it that farther up, in all honesty if you have a heavy weight and you have to swing your body to get it up then just stop and rack it and drop some weight you have a greater risk of injuring yourself and straining your muscles it comes down to good form only and then with good form comes good strength with great results simple as that now thats my SUGGESTION good luck