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  1. Is E spray good to run with test prop???


  2. Quote Originally Posted by francesco View Post
    Is E spray good to run with test prop???

    everything is good to run with test prop
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  3. Could we possibly see an 11/E stack, similar to the 11/7? Would be very beneficial for those that want to run them back to back with other combos etc.

    I want to run this cycle:

    Androhard: 3 pills week 1-8
    Dermacrine: 4 pumps week 1-8
    11-KT Spray: 50 sprays week 1-4
    E-spray: 50 spray week 5-8

    A stack for arou d 90 -100 would be nice, and fit my budget

    Also, any logs for the E-spray yet?

  4. EDIT: Double post.

    EDIT EDIT: send me free products.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    Could we possibly see an 11/E stack, similar to the 11/7? Would be very beneficial for those that want to run them back to back with other combos etc.

    I want to run this cycle:

    Androhard: 3 pills week 1-8
    Dermacrine: 4 pumps week 1-8
    11-KT Spray: 50 sprays week 1-4
    E-spray: 50 spray week 5-8

    A stack for arou d 90 -100 would be nice, and fit my budget

    Also, any logs for the E-spray yet?
    I am not sure on the logs, nor the stack but you never know
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  6. Yeah, with the 7/11 it makes sence to do one. Get PA on it.

  7. is there any concern with the negative effects of dht with using of e spray. Im already using cycle support which has saw palmetto. i particularly concerned with prostate issues

  8. Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    is there any concern with the negative effects of dht with using of e spray. Im already using cycle support which has saw palmetto. i particularly concerned with prostate issues
    DHT can be trouble for the Prostate....However, that is if DHT were taken in a vacuum and there were no other metabolites and or processes involved. Here is an excerpt from an article that show that blocking DHT may reduce the risk of getting prostate cancer ...BUT increases the risk that if you do get it you will die from it


    t's true that if DHT alone is considered, elevated levels of DHT might be thought to increase your prostate cancer risk, as DHT is a procarcinogenic (for the technically inclined, dedifferentiating) metabolite. (3), (4)

    But Nature hasn't provided DHT alone! If we take the metabolites of DHT into consideration, too, elevated DHT may or may not have this effect. One of these metabolites may actually offset or even reduce any DHT-increased risk. How does that happen?



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    After testosterone is converted to DHT, DHT is in turn normally metabolized into a relatively smaller quantity of 5 [alpha] -androstane-3 [alpha], 17 [beta] -diol (abbreviated as 3 [alpha] -Adiol), and a usually larger amount of 5 [alpha] -androstane-3 [beta], 17 [beta] -diol (abbreviated as 3 [beta] -Adiol). These same researchers also report that while nearly all the 3 [alpha] -Adiol is converted back to DHT (which presumably makes 3 [alpha] -Adiol a "pre-procarcinogen"), the 3 [beta] -Adiol does not convert back to 5 [alpha] -DHT. Very importantly, they report that 3 [beta] -Adiol is an anticarcinogen (for the technically inclined, a redifferentiating agent) that activates estrogen receptor beta, an anticarcinogenic estrogen receptor present in large numbers in the prostate gland. (5) (Estrogen receptor beta is present in many other tissues in both sexes, but that's a topic to be explored at another time.)

    What's that? A testosterone metabolite that activates an estrogen receptor? A testosterone metabolite that doesn't activate any androgen receptors at all? That's right, and (very unfortunately for the men involved) my observation has been that many men who take finasteride to suppress procarcinogenic DHT end up suppressing their own anticarcinogenic 3 [beta] -Adiol even more, thus shifting the procarcinogen (DHT) to anticarcinogen (3 [beta] -Adiol) ratio toward a greater risk of cancer. I've also seen this occasionally with high doses of saw palmetto.

    In a letter to the editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, Otabek Imamov, MD, et al. state, "[DHT] is the fulcrum in this balance. It suggests that finasteride, by blocking the conversion of testosterone to [DHT], inhibits the production of [3 [beta] -Adiol] thus suppressing [the anticarcinogenic activity of] ER [beta] and preventing the [re]-differentiation of epithelium. This mechanism could account for the higher incidence of poorly differentiated tumors in the finasteride group in the Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial." (6)
    you can find the full article here

    http://www.biomedsearch.com/article/...297056560.html
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    is there any concern with the negative effects of dht with using of e spray. Im already using cycle support which has saw palmetto. i particularly concerned with prostate issues
    there is a pretty big difference between DHT created by enzymatic action on testosterone, and DHT administered other ways. DHT has even been looked at for use as a testosterone replacement for men with low testosterone. In and of itself, directly administered there didn't seem to be any increased incidence in BPH or hair loss.

  10. Hey Guys,

    Just ordered the 7/11 stack, UR Spray, COP and E-spray! Cant wait to how they go.

    One question in regards to E-Spray.. How much shut down and side effects can I expect from a 4 week cycle and is it permanent? I am 26 and I'd be happy to just continue using the great other products if E-Spray is to much of a risk for me.

    Cheers!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Bizzle123 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Just ordered the 7/11 stack, UR Spray, COP and E-spray! Cant wait to how they go.

    One question in regards to E-Spray.. How much shut down and side effects can I expect from a 4 week cycle and is it permanent? I am 26 and I'd be happy to just continue using the great other products if E-Spray is to much of a risk for me.

    Cheers!
    At 4 weeks minimal shut down and certainly not permanent
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  12. Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.
    No but I plan on using E-spray to combat libido/lethargy sides on my next cycle...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.
    next week I start mine
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  15. I'll start tomorrow with my epistane

  16. Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.

  17. On day 2 nothin to report yet

  18. Quote Originally Posted by abish
    On day 2 nothin to report yet
    Keep us posted
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.
    It is hormonal so I'd err on the side of caution. If you are completely dry you should be ok but sweat can reactivate it so be careful
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  20. good info truth. I have worn a longsleeve tee and socks for the lat two days while Im home around my wife and kid. So as long as its dry and i cant really feel any residue i should be ok for some light contact.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.
    IMHO, It depends; standard contact while clothed should be no big deal... but if you're wrestling around in a t-shirt and shorts, or rolling around in the bedroom, it might be a good idea to jump in a pool or shower off any topical products with any hormonal activity...

  22. Don't know if its related but been on espray since Friday so 3 days and had one hell of a wet dream last night had to get up and shower. I'm 28 and don't get those too often anymore.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Don't know if its related but been on espray since Friday so 3 days and had one hell of a wet dream last night had to get up and shower. I'm 28 and don't get those too often anymore.
    could very well be to quote I think Johnny Carson "I remember when my dreams were wet and my farts were dry" lol
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  24. Not anything really new still at 50 sprays 2x daily. Great pumps in the gym and more vascular during w/o but no difference in sex drive.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by abish
    Not anything really new still at 50 sprays 2x daily. Great pumps in the gym and more vascular during w/o but no difference in sex drive.
    Wouldn't great pumps and *increased* vascularity be considered as new?
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    Biochemistry Major
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