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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizzle123 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Just ordered the 7/11 stack, UR Spray, COP and E-spray! Cant wait to how they go.

    One question in regards to E-Spray.. How much shut down and side effects can I expect from a 4 week cycle and is it permanent? I am 26 and I'd be happy to just continue using the great other products if E-Spray is to much of a risk for me.

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    Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.
    No but I plan on using E-spray to combat libido/lethargy sides on my next cycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Mine should be here today. Has anybody started theirs yet.
    next week I start mine
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    I'll start tomorrow with my epistane
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    Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.
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    On day 2 nothin to report yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish
    On day 2 nothin to report yet
    Keep us posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.
    It is hormonal so I'd err on the side of caution. If you are completely dry you should be ok but sweat can reactivate it so be careful
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    good info truth. I have worn a longsleeve tee and socks for the lat two days while Im home around my wife and kid. So as long as its dry and i cant really feel any residue i should be ok for some light contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Should I worry about using E-Spray if I sleep with my gf? I picked up UR spray after truth let me know I was gtg. I really like the idea of e-spray (loved stanodrol) but wouldn't want my girl growing a mustache or a dick. Thanks guys, and thanks to PA for standing by this industry for so long.
    IMHO, It depends; standard contact while clothed should be no big deal... but if you're wrestling around in a t-shirt and shorts, or rolling around in the bedroom, it might be a good idea to jump in a pool or shower off any topical products with any hormonal activity...
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    Don't know if its related but been on espray since Friday so 3 days and had one hell of a wet dream last night had to get up and shower. I'm 28 and don't get those too often anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Don't know if its related but been on espray since Friday so 3 days and had one hell of a wet dream last night had to get up and shower. I'm 28 and don't get those too often anymore.
    could very well be to quote I think Johnny Carson "I remember when my dreams were wet and my farts were dry" lol
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    Not anything really new still at 50 sprays 2x daily. Great pumps in the gym and more vascular during w/o but no difference in sex drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish
    Not anything really new still at 50 sprays 2x daily. Great pumps in the gym and more vascular during w/o but no difference in sex drive.
    Wouldn't great pumps and *increased* vascularity be considered as new?
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    Yes but I am stacking with epistane at 30 mg daily. And have been since the start of espray. I was hoping more for that raging sex drive feel. I'm not disappointed yet I still have a bottle and a half so I have lots more time for more testing
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    Isn't that going to be crazy dry on your joints?
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    Not yet. Bus have cissus on hand might start supplementing for prevention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    Isn't that going to be crazy dry on your joints?
    Dry is probably not the right way to think about it, as it's unlikely that there is literally less water in your joints. There is science out there that suggests lowering endogenous estrogens facilitates the onset of inflammation. If that is the case, you could call the joint pain from low E, arthritis (literally "joint inflammation") or if it is the case that it isn't a problem caused by inflammation, Patrick has used the term is arthralgia (literally "joint pain"). I've certainly noticed this joint pain on high doses of EPI (50-60) and AI's (3 Erase/day causes me severe pain), but never felt like my joints were "dehydrated".
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    Quote Originally Posted by muad33b View Post
    Dry is probably not the right way to think about it, as it's unlikely that there is literally less water in your joints. There is science out there that suggests lowering endogenous estrogens facilitates the onset of inflammation. If that is the case, you could call the joint pain from low E, arthritis (literally "joint inflammation") or if it is the case that it isn't a problem caused by inflammation, Patrick has used the term is arthralgia (literally "joint pain"). I've certainly noticed this joint pain on high doses of EPI (50-60) and AI's (3 Erase/day causes me severe pain), but never felt like my joints were "dehydrated".


    correct, its an inflammatory issue not a water issue.

    people probably assumed it was water because estrogens are associated with water retention
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    I just used dry to festive how my joints feel when lowered.

    PA, there is another thread discussing weather DHT is an AI and works on estrogen receptors. Swing as this is an epiandrosterone thread, could you clear this up? Would be nice too quote someone who knows his ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ape McGrapes View Post
    I just used dry to festive how my joints feel when lowered.

    PA, there is another thread discussing weather DHT is an AI and works on estrogen receptors. Swing as this is an epiandrosterone thread, could you clear this up? Would be nice too quote someone who knows his ish.

    dht and its metabolite 5a-androstandione have been identified as having aromatase inhibition activity. they may act as receptor antagonists too, or post receptor modulators of estrogen gene expression
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    50sprays a day ..how long will the bottle last ?
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    4 weeks, but I found my 11-KT lasted 5 at 50 sprays.

    EDIT: Thank you PA.
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    So 7.2grams of epi / 28 days on 50 sprays = 257mg.

    Right?

    it's the better dosed epiandrosterone product on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    correct, its an inflammatory issue not a water issue.

    people probably assumed it was water because estrogens are associated with water retention
    Pa what can be done to combat the joint issues. Can a nsaid be used or would something like super cissus or joint spray help
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Pa what can be done to combat the joint issues. Can a nsaid be used or would something like super cissus or joint spray help

    all of those have anti-inflammatory activity
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    Quote Originally Posted by abish View Post
    Pa what can be done to combat the joint issues. Can a nsaid be used or would something like super cissus or joint spray help
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    How long do the Prototype sprays take to absorb? If you spray in the morning, does it absorb gradually over a period of hours? Is it best to stay naked for a while to let it dry as much as possible before putting on clothing that it could rub off on?
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