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  1. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin
    Not sure, if I was running it(and I might) I'd prolly dose it at 50 sprays twice a day, which will be hard to do alongside Ur-Spray unless you have someone to spray your back. I am not sure of the conversion rate
    Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet

    Ok, so I have a couple 2 packs of e-spray, don't plan on using anything else hormonal with this, how would YOU dose it? 2-4 sprays split every 12 hours?
    4 - 6? I think you're looking more along the lines of 50 - 100. In the above post Truth recommends 50x2 daily am/pm
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet

    Goes to show reading small print on a phone ain't worth a lick. Thought the label read 2-4 sprays but looks like it reads 2-4 weeks. I should be getting mine tomorrow. So 50 sprays 2x a day? Makes more sense now at about 480mg/day for topical since I am used to 600mg and up for oral.
    Keep us updated brotha man!!! I'm stoked to try it!
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  3. Anyone have any idea at how much 480mg/day tropical would compare to an oral product, 600mg, 800mg?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Goes to show reading small print on a phone ain't worth a lick. Thought the label read 2-4 sprays but looks like it reads 2-4 weeks. I should be getting mine tomorrow. So 50 sprays 2x a day? Makes more sense now at about 480mg/day for topical since I am used to 600mg and up for oral.

    Lets see what kind of GAINS people get from the product. Its really a waste of our time throwing around theories on what converts to what and where it converts and what bioavailability is. Cuz its not gonna get us any closer to answering the question as to how well it works. I have better things to do as I am sure you do too
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Patrick I was honestly amazed at what the UR spray did for me. I've been able to cut naturally, lose over 3 inches off my waist, gain strength and I didn't lose one cm off of my muscle measurements. Am excited about this new product got 2 bottles headed my way ATM.

    it is something else. probably the biggest supplement story of recent years. so few are aware of it.

    u need to spread the word cuz we dont do marketing so good. more people that buy it means more raw materials we can buy at one time which means lower price for consumers
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet View Post
    Ok, so I have a couple 2 packs of e-spray, don't plan on using anything else hormonal with this, how would YOU dose it? 2-4 sprays split every 12 hours?
    2-4 sprays? more like 40-60

    if i would use it i would just cover myself in the stuff once or twice a day
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    Anyone have any idea at how much 480mg/day tropical would compare to an oral product, 600mg, 800mg?

    nobody that i know of would have any idea

    we need people like you to try it and tell us
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  8. i'm think im gonna mix UR and E in one bottle and see what happens at 80 sprays a day.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by boxer12 View Post
    i'm think im gonna mix UR and E in one bottle and see what happens at 80 sprays a day.

    make sure you add the E to the Ur. Not the other way around.

    If you dont the possibility exists for a matter / anti-matter anihilation resulting in the earth and half our solar system collapsing into a singularity
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    make sure you add the E to the Ur. Not the other way around.

    If you dont the possibility exists for a matter / anti-matter anihilation resulting in the earth and half our solar system collapsing into a singularity
    With great power comes great responsibility...
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by testosteronet
    Just received product, 1st time ordering with prototype, very impressed...2 day delivery, perfect packaging, product looks great...the fun begins tonight...
    You going to log? I'll follow for sure
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  12. Pat Correct me if I'm wrong...but if this is DHT (converted obviously) wouldn't this be a perfect topical Gyno killer, followed by a mild Nolva or Letro Run?

    Just wondering for different areas for this to be used in the industry haha, not only muscle and strength gains, but a loss of moobs too...that sounds mighty appealing!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Pat Correct me if I'm wrong...but if this is DHT (converted obviously) wouldn't this be a perfect topical Gyno killer, followed by a mild Nolva or Letro Run?

    Just wondering for different areas for this to be used in the industry haha, not only muscle and strength gains, but a loss of moobs too...that sounds mighty appealing!
    Here is a study that suggests you may be on to something
    Gynecomastia & DHT
    Cailleux-Bounacer A, Rohmer V, Lahlou N, Lefebvre H, Roger M, Kuhn JM. Impact level ofdihydrotestosterone on the hypothalamic-pituitary-leydig cell axis in men. International Journal of Andrology 2009;32(1):57-65.

    Summary Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) the physiologically most potent androgen cannot be aromatised into oestrogen. DHT is used as a treatment for idiopathic gynaecomastia. In order to investigate the different sites of action of DHT on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, two groups of adult men were studied.

    Group I included 10 gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)-deficient men who were evaluated before and during a pulsatile infusion of GnRH alone for 2 weeks and then in association with DHT given transdermally at doses used in the treatment of gynaecomastia for further two weeks. Luteinizing hormone (LH) pulsatility was assessed at the end of each step of the study. Plasma LH levels were measured every 15 min. Plasmatestosterone (T), DHT, oestradiol (E2), free alpha-subunit (FAS) of glycoproteic hormones and LH bioactivity were measured on pooled plasma samples. Group II included 12 healthy men in whom plasma T, DHT and E2 were measured before and then 24, 48 and 72 h after the injection of 5000 IU hCG alone or in combination with either DHT or the pure anti-androgen nilutamide. Two weeks separated each of the 3 hCG testing.

    In group I, except for bioactive/immunoreactive (B/I) LH ratio which was unchanged, GnRH treatment induced significant rises (p < 0.01) in all plasma hormone levels, LH pulse amplitude and frequency. During treatment with GnRH+DHT, plasma DHT levels increased up to 16.8 ± 2.5 nm, while plasma hormone levels, B/I LH ratio, LH pulse amplitude and frequency were similar to those obtained with GnRH alone. In group II, the peak of hCG-induced T rise was not modified by either DHT or nilutamide. In contrast, DHT reduced by 50% (p < 0.01) the E2 peak in response to hCG.

    These data show that DHT exerts no direct action on the pituitary to retroregulate LH secretion and to modify either B/I LH ratio or FAS secretion. Its reducing effect on LH secretion is likely mediated at the hypothalamic level. DHT does not appear to have a physiological influence on Leydig cells steroidogenesis. Administered at therapeutic doses, DHT directly reduces testicular aromatase activity that combined with its antigonadotropic effect leads to the gain in the symptomatic treatment of gynaecomastia.

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  14. Did you guys have some coupon to us?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by zaire2d View Post
    Did you guys have some coupon to us?

    not right now
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  16. Did you guys happen to catch this article from the NY Times? http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...***rss&emc=rss

    It basically says that DHT produces neurogenesis : ) obviously it's a rat study but promising none the less. I tried to find where the study came from but the article didn't cite the source. Here is a little conclusion of what was found in the study -

    Then the scientists examined all of the animals’ brains. They found that, compared with the sedentary animals, the running rats had significantly more of a potent testosterone derivative called dihydrotestosterone, or DHT, in their brains. Even the brains of rats that had been castrated sloshed with DHT.

    So the exercise had prompted increased production of the hormone.

    Most of the animals also had a plethora of new neurons in the hippocampus, a portion of the brain associated with learning and memory. Unexpectedly, however, the animals in this experiment that could not use the DHT in their brains did not experience enhanced neurogenesis. They exercised just as the other animals did, but their brains did not benefit in the same way.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Did you guys happen to catch this article from the NY Times? http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...***rss&emc=rss

    It basically says that DHT produces neurogenesis : ) obviously it's a rat study but promising none the less. I tried to find where the study came from but the article didn't cite the source. Here is a little conclusion of what was found in the study -

    Then the scientists examined all of the animals’ brains. They found that, compared with the sedentary animals, the running rats had significantly more of a potent testosterone derivative called dihydrotestosterone, or DHT, in their brains. Even the brains of rats that had been castrated sloshed with DHT.

    So the exercise had prompted increased production of the hormone.

    Most of the animals also had a plethora of new neurons in the hippocampus, a portion of the brain associated with learning and memory. Unexpectedly, however, the animals in this experiment that could not use the DHT in their brains did not experience enhanced neurogenesis. They exercised just as the other animals did, but their brains did not benefit in the same way.
    Very interesting, DHT has all kinds of benefits one could say it not testosterone is the king of male hormones as it effects all things male, body hair sex drive etc. etc. see another interesting article here http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/pmcc/articles/PMC3351454/
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Very interesting, DHT has all kinds of benefits one could say it not testosterone is the king of male hormones as it effects all things male, body hair sex drive etc. etc. see another interesting article here http://pubmedcentralcanada.ca/pmcc/articles/PMC3351454/
    problem resolved itself got shipment confirmation but not order confirmation all is good thanks Purity
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Did you guys happen to catch this article from the NY Times? http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...***rss&emc=rss

    It basically says that DHT produces neurogenesis : ) obviously it's a rat study but promising none the less. I tried to find where the study came from but the article didn't cite the source. Here is a little conclusion of what was found in the study -

    Then the scientists examined all of the animals’ brains. They found that, compared with the sedentary animals, the running rats had significantly more of a potent testosterone derivative called dihydrotestosterone, or DHT, in their brains. Even the brains of rats that had been castrated sloshed with DHT.

    So the exercise had prompted increased production of the hormone.

    Most of the animals also had a plethora of new neurons in the hippocampus, a portion of the brain associated with learning and memory. Unexpectedly, however, the animals in this experiment that could not use the DHT in their brains did not experience enhanced neurogenesis. They exercised just as the other animals did, but their brains did not benefit in the same way.

    interesting but it is probably not applicable to circulating dht (either natural or exogenous). this phenomenon involves localized production of dht and probably many other local factors
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    problem resolved itself got shipment confirmation but not order confirmation all is good thanks Purity

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    ?????????
    not sure how the hell that got there, trying to do too many things at once, noticed that post was missing from the intended thread and I just reposted there I deleted it from my post here(edited) Perhaps I need to get some more d-serine next time
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    interesting but it is probably not applicable to circulating dht (either natural or exogenous). this phenomenon involves localized production of dht and probably many other local factors
    Yea that makes sense, especially since in the article it stated that the DHT was created in the brain. I just thought it was pretty sweet, DHT always gets such a bad name as far as sides but it seems that it plays a pretty big role in the body as far as positive effects go.

    Does epiandro cross the BBB?
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Yea that makes sense, especially since in the article it stated that the DHT was created in the brain. I just thought it was pretty sweet, DHT always gets such a bad name as far as sides but it seems that it plays a pretty big role in the body as far as positive effects go.

    Does epiandro cross the BBB?

    epinadro should cross the BBB
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

    epinadro should cross the BBB
    Ok, I'm sure I have this completely backwards but in the study it said that exercise induced dht creation in the brain. And that the rats with no dht found in the brain did not incur neurogenesis otoh the rats WITH dht incurred significant neurogenesis. So theoretically, dosing with a dht precursor such as epiandro (that should cross the BBB) could help stimulate neurogenesis... No? If not I'll shut the f up...

    If so, you may have some users getting some pretty decent cognitive results with a dserine and e spray stack.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Ok, I'm sure I have this completely backwards but in the study it said that exercise induced dht creation in the brain. And that the rats with no dht found in the brain did not incur neurogenesis otoh the rats WITH dht incurred significant neurogenesis. So theoretically, dosing with a dht precursor such as epiandro (that should cross the BBB) could help stimulate neurogenesis... No? If not I'll shut the f up...

    If so, you may have some users getting some pretty decent cognitive results with a dserine and e spray stack.

    the areas in the brain may be creating levels of dht that far exceed that which could be acheived through systemic administration. also, it may not be just the DHT that is causing this effect but DHT in conjunction with a plethora of other factors that are released or stimulated in response to exercise.
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