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    Orbit had it up for 14.99 yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcne02
    Orbit had it up for 14.99 yesterday.
    Are you serious?! I check them constantly and I missed it?! Man...
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    Hurry. Just checked and it shows in stock for 14.99!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcne02
    Hurry. Just checked and it shows in stock for 14.99!
    Yup saw it. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcne02 View Post
    Orbit had it up for 14.99 yesterday.
    Thanks I just picked up 4 bottles
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    $13.99, in England for 10? Happy days lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    $13.99, in England for 10? Happy days lol.
    Unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    it lowers it as a consequence of reduced body fat

    although i have seen one study where leptin is raised from UA. but that could be early on, before the fat losss begins

    So how long in general would it take to start seeing fat loss?. When purchasing a supplement you have to take this into account. I mean if a product takes 2 weeks before you start seeing results than if you purchase bottle that lasts a month, you're really only getting 2 weeks worth of benefits from the product.
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    Still waiting on Nutraplanet to get this in. No way I'll pay $50 for a one month(two week) supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Still waiting on Nutraplanet to get this in. No way I'll pay $50 for a one month(two week) supply.
    and why not $30 for 2 bottles from the other site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Still waiting on Nutraplanet to get this in. No way I'll pay $50 for a one month(two week) supply.
    WOW now the price is $18.99 WTF!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    and why not $30 for 2 bottles from the other site?
    $30 isn't that bad but considering it takes 2 full weeks before the product kicks I'm not sure about that price. Still I prefer to order from Nutraplanet. Ergo has always put out quality products but they are usually expensive. Hopefully this product is worth the price.
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    I think a 240 caps bottle is much better and cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal
    I think a 240 caps bottle is much better and cheaper.
    Yea. I'm hoping so. That $4 price increase on that stuff made me not order it. So unless it hits 14.99 for 120 or like 29.99 for the 240. I doubt I'll be running. Unless results are amazing.
    Well only the logs will tell.
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    PA compared it to Clen except that you can take it year round. that makes me very excited about it, but at the same time want to hold off to read other use feedback. I'm hoping it lives up to expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadi
    PA compared it to Clen except that you can take it year round. that makes me very excited about it, but at the same time want to hold off to read other use feedback. I'm hoping it lives up to expectation.
    Yea sounds about right as far as the recomping effects. I wonder if they work similar pathways? Hmm. That'd be bad though and I doubt he'd say you could take it year round if that was the case lol.
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    So should one just stick with 9/day until the 2 weeks is up?
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    PA took 18 for two weeks then switched to 9. he said people can take 9. He also said its effects started to show within two weeks, whatever that means. I'm interested in the fatloss effect. I think it will be trial and error by the users until we find the best dose.
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    I just took my first dose today. Ordered 3 more. I'm started Anabeta as well. First dose is tomorrow. I had great success with it so I figured I would great creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Yea. I'm hoping so. That $4 price increase on that stuff made me not order it. So unless it hits 14.99 for 120 or like 29.99 for the 240. I doubt I'll be running. Unless results are amazing.
    Well only the logs will tell.
    Unsponsored logs and from people who are shelling out cash for the product will be the way to gauge this product. Also, those who don't worship Pat would be a plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green
    Unsponsored logs and from people who are shelling out cash for the product will be the way to gauge this product. Also, those who don't worship Pat would be a plus
    Yup. Only time and unsponsored skeptics logs will tell.

    Find it kinda hard to believe any supp that allows you to be drunk all the time and still be shredded could have been kept secret for so long lol.

    Anyway this month and next I'll probably not have enough money to order anything over my staples. So I gotta wait anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Yup. Only time and unsponsored skeptics logs will tell.

    Find it kinda hard to believe any supp that allows you to be drunk all the time and still be shredded could have been kept secret for so long lol.

    Anyway this month and next I'll probably not have enough money to order anything over my staples. So I gotta wait anyway...
    LOL. I forgot about the drunk part! Out of most of the substances to party with, I would definitely rank over-consumption of ethanol to be one of my least favored things. This product must be some kind of miracle. I wonder what other products Pat was using concurrently. Pat is a very intelligent scientest and a great innovator, but above all he is a businessman. Despite this, my gut tells me that this will end up being a good product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    LOL. I forgot about the drunk part! Out of most of the substances to party with, I would definitely rank over-consumption of ethanol to be one of my least favored things. This product must be some kind of miracle. I wonder what other products Pat was using concurrently. Pat is a very intelligent scientest and a great innovator, but above all he is a businessman. Despite this, my gut tells me that this will end up being a good product.

    So do I. Just cant get myself to buy it just yet lol.
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    9 caps of anything a day is still a huge dose and extra stress on the liver. I mean that is an additional 9 pills to the supplements you are already taking. For those that choose to take 18 caps a day- well I don't even know what to say about that. If I have to continually take 18 capsules of product day in and day out in order for it be effective, well then I don't know if that is worth the extra liver stress or the money. That way a bottle would only last you 6 days, so $40 for 12 days worth and it takes 2 weeks to kick in?. Ummm, no thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    9 caps of anything a day is still a huge dose and extra stress on the liver. I mean that is an additional 9 pills to the supplements you are already taking. For those that choose to take 18 caps a day- well I don't even know what to say about that. If I have to continually take 18 capsules of product day in and day out in order for it be effective, well then I don't know if that is worth the extra liver stress or the money. That way a bottle would only last you 6 days, so $40 for 12 days worth and it takes 2 weeks to kick in?. Ummm, no thanks.
    I prefer the price to drop, but I have a bad habit of over-spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    LOL. I forgot about the drunk part! Out of most of the substances to party with, I would definitely rank over-consumption of ethanol to be one of my least favored things. This product must be some kind of miracle. I wonder what other products Pat was using concurrently. Pat is a very intelligent scientest and a great innovator, but above all he is a businessman. Despite this, my gut tells me that this will end up being a good product.
    Yes he is a businessman, but I cannot think of one of his products that didn't deliver as promised. That's why he's so well respected. At this point it would not be in his best interest to put out something that wouldn't work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    I prefer the price to drop, but I have a bad habit of over-spending.
    GETRIPPEDNUTRITION.COM has it for $13.99 a bottle, picking up 2 right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    9 caps of anything a day is still a huge dose and extra stress on the liver. I mean that is an additional 9 pills to the supplements you are already taking. For those that choose to take 18 caps a day- well I don't even know what to say about that. If I have to continually take 18 capsules of product day in and day out in order for it be effective, well then I don't know if that is worth the extra liver stress or the money. That way a bottle would only last you 6 days, so $40 for 12 days worth and it takes 2 weeks to kick in?. Ummm, no thanks.
    T-Bone,

    "Caps" in and of themselves do not put stress on the liver. That is ridiculous. I could take 5g of creatine monohydrate and spread it out into 100 capsules containing 50mg each, the same amount of UA that is in each cap of Ursobolic, and it wouldn't change anything.

    Specific characteristics of the chemical in question, dictate whether or not it will be hepatotoxic (injurious to the liver).

    Ursolic acid has actually been shown to be good for the liver. Maybe Henry will post the reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushi View Post
    T-Bone,

    "Caps" in and of themselves do not put stress on the liver. That is ridiculous. I could take 5g of creatine monohydrate and spread it out into 100 capsules containing 50mg each, the same amount of UA that is in each cap of Ursobolic, and it wouldn't change anything.

    Specific characteristics of the chemical in question, dictate whether or not it will be hepatotoxic (injurious to the liver).

    Ursolic acid has actually been shown to be good for the liver. Maybe Henry will post the reference.

    I'm not saying it is hepatotoxic. I'm just saying the more pills you take the more stress you are going to put on your liver regardless of whether it is hepatotoxic or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm not saying it is hepatotoxic. I'm just saying the more pills you take the more stress you are going to put on your liver regardless of whether it is hepatotoxic or not.
    I can appreciate your desire to limit the amount of supplements you take. I'm the same way.

    However, you must understand that simply ingesting pills of things will not put stress on your liver. It is the content of those pills and the characteristics thereof, that will determine what will or will not happen to your liver, and everything else in your body. In fact, there are many compounds that act in ways that protect the liver. N-Acetyl-Cysteine, for example.

    My point is, there is absolutely no reason to think that Ursobolic will be harmful to your liver and in fact, there is evidence to the contrary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    9 caps of anything a day is still a huge dose and extra stress on the liver. I mean that is an additional 9 pills to the supplements you are already taking. For those that choose to take 18 caps a day- well I don't even know what to say about that. If I have to continually take 18 capsules of product day in and day out in order for it be effective, well then I don't know if that is worth the extra liver stress or the money. That way a bottle would only last you 6 days, so $40 for 12 days worth and it takes 2 weeks to kick in?. Ummm, no thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rushi View Post
    T-Bone,

    "Caps" in and of themselves do not put stress on the liver. That is ridiculous. I could take 5g of creatine monohydrate and spread it out into 100 capsules containing 50mg each, the same amount of UA that is in each cap of Ursobolic, and it wouldn't change anything.

    Specific characteristics of the chemical in question, dictate whether or not it will be hepatotoxic (injurious to the liver).

    Ursolic acid has actually been shown to be good for the liver. Maybe Henry will post the reference.
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm not saying it is hepatotoxic. I'm just saying the more pills you take the more stress you are going to put on your liver regardless of whether it is hepatotoxic or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rushi View Post
    I can appreciate your desire to limit the amount of supplements you take. I'm the same way.

    However, you must understand that simply ingesting pills of things will not put stress on your liver. It is the content of those pills and the characteristics thereof, that will determine what will or will not happen to your liver, and everything else in your body. In fact, there are many compounds that act in ways that protect the liver. N-Acetyl-Cysteine, for example.

    My point is, there is absolutely no reason to think that Ursobolic will be harmful to your liver and in fact, there is evidence to the contrary.
    Simply upping your food intake puts extra stress on your liver so why wouldn't upping supplements? Even though they can be good for your liver.
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    There are products out there already containing similar quantities of ursolic acid i.e 150mg of ursolic acid acid per serve ( 3 caps ). PA is not the first at this amount. Although his label says loquat leaf extract it is actually sourced from rosemary due to a change in raw material choice after his bottles were already printed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Unsponsored logs and from people who are shelling out cash for the product will be the way to gauge this product. Also, those who don't worship Pat would be a plus
    All the logs will be unsponsored. We don't typically do sponsored logs. We agree that they aren't worth much.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    9 caps of anything a day is still a huge dose and extra stress on the liver. I mean that is an additional 9 pills to the supplements you are already taking. For those that choose to take 18 caps a day- well I don't even know what to say about that. If I have to continually take 18 capsules of product day in and day out in order for it be effective, well then I don't know if that is worth the extra liver stress or the money. That way a bottle would only last you 6 days, so $40 for 12 days worth and it takes 2 weeks to kick in?. Ummm, no thanks.
    Please stop making stuff up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rushi View Post
    T-Bone,

    "Caps" in and of themselves do not put stress on the liver. That is ridiculous. I could take 5g of creatine monohydrate and spread it out into 100 capsules containing 50mg each, the same amount of UA that is in each cap of Ursobolic, and it wouldn't change anything.

    Specific characteristics of the chemical in question, dictate whether or not it will be hepatotoxic (injurious to the liver).

    Ursolic acid has actually been shown to be good for the liver. Maybe Henry will post the reference.
    Thank you. Yes, ursolic acid has been shown to have hepatoprotective properties. I'll try and dig out some quotes/refs later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Please stop making stuff up.
    If I stick with 9 caps instead of the 18, will that equate to 50% less stress on my liver?

    Also, if I snorted 3 of the 9 caps, would that bypass the liver stress? I dont want it to fall off ya know homez?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    All the logs will be unsponsored. We don't typically do sponsored logs. We agree that they aren't worth much.



    Please stop making stuff up.



    Thank you. Yes, ursolic acid has been shown to have hepatoprotective properties. I'll try and dig out some quotes/refs later.
    Just started my log for any that are interested see link Truthornothin's Ursobolic Log The Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth!

    Henry I helped you out a little
    Performing your original search, ursolic acid liver ethanol, in PubMed will retrieve 3 records.
    Life Sci. 2006 Jan 11;78(7):713-8. Epub 2005 Aug 30.
    Protective effect of ursolic acid on ethanol-mediated experimental liver damage in rats.
    Saravanan R, Viswanathan P, Pugalendi KV.
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    Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Science, Annamalai University, Annamalai Nagar 608 002, Tamilnadu, India.
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    Ursolic acid is a triterpenoid that exists in nature and is the major component of some traditional medicinal herbs. In this study, ursolic acid has been evaluated for its hepatoprotective effect against chronic ethanol-mediated toxicity in rats. Ethanol administration (7.9 g/kg/day) for 60 days resulted in increased oxidative stress, decreased antioxidant defense and liver injury. It also negatively affected the serum total protein, albumin and A/G ratio. Subsequent to the experimental induction of toxicity (i.e. after the initial period of 30 days) ursolic acid treatment performed by co-administering ursolic acid (10, 20 and 40 mg/kg body weight) for 30 days along with the daily dose of ethanol. While this treatment causing a significant improvement in body weight, food intake and serum protein levels, it decreases serum aminotransferase activities (aspartate aminotransferase and alanine aminotransferase) and total bilirubin levels. Ursolic acid improved the antioxidant status of alcoholic rats, which is evaluated by the decreased levels of lipid peroxidation markers in plasma (thiobarbituric acid reactive substances and lipid hydroperoxides) and increased levels of circulatory antioxidants such as reduced glutathione, ascorbic acid and alpha-tocopherol. Histopathological observations were also in correlation with the biochemical parameters. The activity of ursolic acid (20 mg/kg) compares well with silymarin, a known hepatoprotective drug, and seems to be better in certain parameters. The protective effect of ursolic acid is probably related to its antioxidant activities.

    PMID: 16137716 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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    the only way to settle this is to let FIGHTBACK log the product
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    The activity of ursolic acid (20 mg/kg) compares well with silymarin, a known hepatoprotective drug, and seems to be better in certain parameters.
    Better than milk thistle? Interesting. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    the only way to settle this is to let FIGHTBACK log the product
    Go for it. You'll have to pay for it though, we don't do sponsored logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Go for it. You'll have to pay for it though, we don't do sponsored logs.
    Well then if everyone thats posted in this thread pitches in 1 dollar I can log it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Well then if everyone thats posted in this thread pitches in 1 dollar I can log it .
    Bro, its as little a a buck a day give something else up it all about your priorities
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