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    Quote Originally Posted by T H E O R E M View Post
    at 20-22 its just plain too steep for LOWEST dosing.
    Unless it actually works......

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    Unless it actually works......
    Guess it's just a waiting game right now.
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    i saw some mention of TTA

    so are we saying this will stack with DCP? what bout stims?

    what are the negative effects there has to be some, sorry i tried to go through all 9 pages but our internet connection sucks here
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    So, PA, with all the talk about negative effects on sperm count and function, would you be willing to get your swimmers checked and report back after having taken it for a few months now? Infertility sounds like a potentially very scary side effect considering most of the people who will be taking this are in their 20s and are yet to procreate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallpecs View Post
    So, PA, with all the talk about negative effects on sperm count and function, would you be willing to get your swimmers checked and report back after having taken it for a few months now? Infertility sounds like a potentially very scary side effect considering most of the people who will be taking this are in their 20s and are yet to procreate...
    That wouldn't demonstrate whether the product is safe or not.

    If you're trying to conceive, maybe give it a miss until you've knocked her up.

    Our product is part ursolic acid and part oleanolic acid. They are very similar compounds with very similar effects.
    Have a look at this study:
    The effect of oleanolic acid on sperm motion characteristics and fertility of male Wistar rats
    In the study, the rats that received oleanolic acid were unable to impregnate the lady rats during the time they were taking the OA, but as soon as the OA was removed, they all knocked up their rat girlfriends.
    Treated males failed to impregnate females, whereas control and oleanolic acid withdrawn males achieved 100% pregnancies.
    That suggests that OA, and perhaps by extension UA, could function as reversible oral contraceptives. Obviously I'm not going to suggest you throw away your condoms and flush the GF's pills down the sink just yet, I'm just suggesting it's not necessarily a negative thing to temporarily and reversibly reduce fertility. Unless you're catholic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside Backer View Post
    i saw some mention of TTA

    so are we saying this will stack with DCP? what bout stims?
    Go for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outside Backer View Post
    what are the negative effects there has to be some, sorry i tried to go through all 9 pages but our internet connection sucks here
    Try it and let us know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    That wouldn't demonstrate whether the product is safe or not.

    If you're trying to conceive, maybe give it a miss until you've knocked her up.

    Our product is part ursolic acid and part oleanolic acid. They are very similar compounds with very similar effects.
    Have a look at this study:
    The effect of oleanolic acid on sperm motion characteristics and fertility of male Wistar rats
    In the study, the rats that received oleanolic acid were unable to impregnate the lady rats during the time they were taking the OA, but as soon as the OA was removed, they all knocked up their rat girlfriends.

    That suggests that OA, and perhaps by extension UA, could function as reversible oral contraceptives. Obviously I'm not going to suggest you throw away your condoms and flush the GF's pills down the sink just yet, I'm just suggesting it's not necessarily a negative thing to temporarily and reversibly reduce fertility. Unless you're catholic.
    Well if your a s**t, then you don't have to worry about knocking any girl up! Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallpecs View Post
    So, PA, with all the talk about negative effects on sperm count and function, would you be willing to get your swimmers checked and report back after having taken it for a few months now? Infertility sounds like a potentially very scary side effect considering most of the people who will be taking this are in their 20s and are yet to procreate...
    its not gonna mean much without a baseline test.
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    I don't buy that answer. If that were the case they could just increase their stock. Every supplement comany would love to have that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I don't buy that answer. If that were the case they could just increase their stock. Every supplement comany would love to have that problem.
    What post are you replying to?
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    More importantly, how long will it be until it's stocked at nutra? Will it be a similar price to phf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    and UA affects leptin?
    it lowers it as a consequence of reduced body fat

    although i have seen one study where leptin is raised from UA. but that could be early on, before the fat losss begins
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    Quote Originally Posted by T50 View Post
    So $40 for a month supply?

    for now, before the price wars begin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    for now, before the price wars begin
    Hopefully the ingredients won't be so hard to find raw and of good quality that the price actually doesn't go up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    dang that is one expensive 6 weeks!

    good luck though!

    any idea what a good cycle of gh costs for 6 weeks? its all relative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    any idea what a good cycle of gh costs for 6 weeks? its all relative
    Yea that is very true lol. Goals, time frame, wallet size.
    Though a GH cycle is anecdotally and scientifically proven to work. The research looks VERY good for this product. I just have to wait for the logs. I do plan on running this as well though as for me... still on the road to recomp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    I don't buy that answer. If that were the case they could just increase their stock. Every supplement comany would love to have that problem.

    what does bbb stand for? better business bureau?

    anyway we are not out of stock at the moment, if thats what you mean. its just that end customers are ordering faster than what our wholesale buyers are placing orders for. So our wholesalers are running out of stock. But they wised up and are placing big orders. Now the problem is gonna be bottling and labeling fast enough. The way we are set up at the moment is we bottle and label as needed, since our worker guy left. we need to do it ourselves or get random friends to come help
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Yea that is very true lol. Goals, time frame, wallet size.
    Though a GH cycle is anecdotally and scientifically proven to work. The research looks VERY good for this product. I just have to wait for the logs. I do plan on running this as well though as for me... still on the road to recomp.
    GH takes time to see results. Not all people see results from GH. The cheaper GH sources are not always reliable and if bought in bulk to lower the price, one can have the entire stock seized or whatnot.
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    How would this go with anabeta? I don't know much about either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    I'm thinking of running this @ 9 caps for 12weeks. Just gotta grab 8 bottles when it hits the right store
    Or 18caps for 6weeks
    It looks like I know who to come to for a pre-Xmas loan

    The prices in the UK are normally $1=1 and at $45 for one bottle 8 bottles is going to set you back almost 400

    I think I would rather turn to the dark side if I had that type of money to spend on a 6 or 12 week cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    It looks like I know who to come to for a pre-Xmas loan

    The prices in the UK are normally $1=1 and at $45 for one bottle 8 bottles is going to set you back almost 400

    I think I would rather turn to the dark side if I had that type of money to spend on a 6 or 12 week cycle.
    LoL Feel free to do that
    Yeah, I hear ya on the prices in the UK, I am just hoping my regular site lists it a little lower than that -
    wishful thinking on my part (And it is 2bottels for 45$ to my knowledge?!?)

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    I thought I saw the price as $45 for a months supply at recommended dosing but I only skimmed the thread so I guess it's best to wait and see what Reggie (I presume we're talking about the same online place) is going to charge.

    Either way let's hope this product lives up to it's expectations and I'll definitely be following any log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warsteiner View Post
    I thought I saw the price as $45 for a months supply at recommended dosing but I only skimmed the thread so I guess it's best to wait and see what Reggie (I presume we're talking about the same online place) is going to charge.

    Either way let's hope this product lives up to it's expectations and I'll definitely be following any log.
    Yeah, if you take 9caps/day 2 bottles will last you a month (240caps (120x2))
    We are talking about the same person yes, let's keep our that he will show us an affordable price

    Either way I'll be giving this product a good run
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny

    Yeah, if you take 9caps/day 2 bottles will last you a month (240caps (120x2))
    We are talking about the same person yes, let's keep our that he will show us an affordable price

    Either way I'll be giving this product a good run
    You gonna log it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    You gonna log it?
    You can bet your supplement stash I will log it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny

    You can bet your supplement stash I will log it


    Not betting my stash though lol.

    I'll keep an eye out for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    what does bbb stand for? better business bureau?

    anyway we are not out of stock at the moment, if thats what you mean. its just that end customers are ordering faster than what our wholesale buyers are placing orders for. So our wholesalers are running out of stock. But they wised up and are placing big orders. Now the problem is gonna be bottling and labeling fast enough. The way we are set up at the moment is we bottle and label as needed, since our worker guy left. we need to do it ourselves or get random friends to come help
    If i was near ya id bottle them up for some free product! lol

    Depending on my doseage i wont be running out to quick, ive got 10 bottles. hahah
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    You can bet your supplement stash I will log it
    I got my two bottles today will start log tomorrow. I am very excited to start this, finally a product where the desired effects are many and the sides are few, Anti inflammatory, cholesterol reducing muscle sparing fat burner. IS that St. Peter I see......could this be heaven lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I got my two bottles today will start log tomorrow. I am very excited to start this, finally a product where the desired effects are many and the sides are few, Anti inflammatory, cholesterol reducing muscle sparing fat burner. IS that St. Peter I see......could this be heaven lol
    Send me the link to your log will you? Or you can probably post a link in this thread too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    Send me the link to your log will you? Or you can probably post a link in this thread too..
    will do sir should start it tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by btierney98 View Post
    $13.99/bottle at GetRippedNutrition.com.
    Now that price looks very appealing since this takes 2 weeks to kick in, I'd probably buy 4 bottles and run it for 8 at the lowest dosage or possibly 6 at a higher dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T50

    Now that price looks very appealing since this takes 2 weeks to kick in, I'd probably buy 4 bottles and run it for 8 at the lowest dosage or possibly 6 at a higher dosage.
    Agreed is this going to be the normal price we can expect to see from retailers?
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    $13.99?! If the English price is anywhere near that I will be happy lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    $13.99?! If the English price is anywhere near that I will be happy lol.
    Same here
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Agreed is this going to be the normal price we can expect to see from retailers?
    Somewhere between $15 - $20 is likely to be the normal price. I'm surprised anyone is selling it that cheaply.
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    $13.99, in England for 10? Happy days lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv

    Somewhere between $15 - $20 is likely to be the normal price. I'm surprised anyone is selling it that cheaply.
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