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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Ill be definitely picking up atleast 2 bottles when it hits, definitely like the drop in fasting blood glucose.

    If one were to pick up a blood glucose meter how long after dosing would you want to check?

    Obviously before dosing as well.
    I dunno. Mice saw a significant (~20%) lower blood glucose level after a 24hr fast compared to vehicle mice after two doses 12hrs apart. Bear in mind people haven't really taken this orally at effective dosages before, though it's a minor ingredient in a few things (like cosmetics, and a couple of LG Sciences products I think).
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    Interesting. Maybe ill purchase a glucose meter n do some experimenting.

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    Download the recent study from the highly regarded Cell Metabolism journal that concludes that:

    Given the current lack of therapies for skeletal muscle atrophy, we speculate that ursolic acid might be investigated as a potential therapy for illness- and age-related muscle atrophy. It may be useful as a monotherapy or in combination with other strategies that have been considered, such as myostatin inhibition. Given its capacity to reduce adiposity, fasting blood glucose, and plasma lipid levels, ursolic acid might also be investigated as a potential therapy for obesity, metabolic syndrome, and type 2 diabetes.
    http://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu/mstp...dams7-8-11.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feel The Burn View Post
    Leave it to Mr. Arnold to bring a NEW Innovative product and ingredient to the market. He's yet to fail the consumers.....so hopefully they will keep that in mind whenever the competition decides to piggy back off his R&D and bring a similar (identical) product out. Reward those who spend the time, effort, & money it takes to bring new products and ingredients to the consumers.

    With that being said, I'm excited about getting my hands on a bottle.
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    You know what I meant....lol.

    Whenever Pat comes out with a product, tons of other companies quickly come out with a product similar or the exact same. It boils down to alot of companies not having someone competent enough on staff to research new ingredients. Instead they wait until another company comes out with something new and jumps on the bandwagon.
    ummm..

    Isnt this the same ingredient that is already currently in M1D, formadrol and ASGT?

    I assume PA product will have a higher dose, but how is this "new"? Will the PA product contain other ingredients other than ursolic acid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I will be getting this when it comes out, will log it as well, any interest in bloods?
    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    I'm always interested in bloods. They should show a drop in fasting blood glucose, plasma lipid levels, and triglycerides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    ummm..

    Isnt this the same ingredient that is already currently in M1D, formadrol and ASGT?

    I assume PA product will have a higher dose, but how is this "new"? Will the PA product contain other ingredients other than ursolic acid?
    It said in the original post it would be the sole ingredient and a high dosage I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by houstontexas View Post
    It said in the original post it would be the sole ingredient and a high dosage I believe.
    my bad I see it now when I re-read it

    I hope to be the first to market with this stuff so please look for my product Ursobolic by E-Pharm. It will have high dosages of nothing but Ursolic Acid extract. I can’t wait to hear other people’s feedback!!
    Henry any idea how much ursolic acid a serving will contain? or is it all hush hush still till its release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh

    my bad I see it now when I re-read it

    Henry any idea how much ursolic acid a serving will contain? or is it all hush hush still till its release?
    Would be very interested in the dosing protocol. And the purity of the extract/delivery. I'm assuming that since we need two bottles to run a month the dosage must be high, and the bioavailability be quite poor.
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    I thought I read on PHF that this also contains oleanic acid and a 3rd compound similar in structure to UA and OA.
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    good to see new stuff from e pharm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Test for IGF-1 levels according to the MOA?
    It's more about increased sensitization to IGF-1 than increased levels, afaik.

    Quote Originally Posted by rip21 View Post
    I thought I read on PHF that this also contains oleanic acid and a 3rd compound similar in structure to UA and OA.
    Yeah. The high purity ursolic extracts are crazy expensive. I don't think anyone would be willing to pay the prices it would necessitate, or that you would see any benefit from it. This way you get the added benefits of the other triterpenoids.

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    gamma cyclodextrin + 75% Ursolic Acid (400mg) daily
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    gamma cyclodextrin + 75% Ursolic Acid (400mg) daily
    where would one find this product? and what type of delivery is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    gamma cyclodextrin + 75% Ursolic Acid (400mg) daily
    Good luck making your own ursolic acid cyclodextrin complex. Taking a cyclodextrin + ursolic acid is not nearly the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    where would one find this product? and what type of delivery is this?
    Maybe the Chinese Academy of Sciences have some left over from the study.
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    Are you doing a beta testing phase i.e., are any more reviews coming in prior to release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Good luck making your own ursolic acid cyclodextrin complex. Taking a cyclodextrin + ursolic acid is not nearly the same thing.
    is from Sage Extract (75% ursolic acid)

    ANALYTE SPEC. RESULT
    Ursolic Acid 75% 80.2%
    Oleanolic Acid ... 9.67%

    ASSAY: URSOLIC ACID AND OLEANOLIC ACID BY HPLC Total ... 89.9%


    and is ULTRA EXPENSIVE
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Are you doing a beta testing phase i.e., are any more reviews coming in prior to release?
    Nope. You'll be able to get your grubby little paws on it any day now. Or you can wait and watch everyone else get ripped first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    is from Sage Extract (75% ursolic acid)

    Ursolic Acid 75% 80.2%
    Oleanolic Acid ... 9.67%

    and is ULTRA EXPENSIVE
    Yeah. Just go with the Ursobolic bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Maybe the Chinese Academy of Sciences have some left over from the study.
    ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha LOL!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Yeah. Just go with the Ursobolic bro.
    you know me any word when hit NP and the price?
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    What are the stacking possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Nope. You'll be able to get your grubby little paws on it any day now. Or you can wait and watch everyone else get ripped first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAxximal View Post
    you know me any word when hit NP and the price?
    Next week I imagine.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    What are the stacking possibilities.
    Endless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Next week I imagine.



    Endless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    What are the stacking possibilities.
    I think something along the lines of:
    Ursabolic
    Recompadrol
    Shift
    EndoSurge
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    Would be SIIICK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    I think something along the lines of:
    Ursabolic
    Recompadrol
    Shift
    EndoSurge
    Erase
    Anabeta

    Would be SIIICK!
    I think i would change out recompadrol with AP but that's just me. I've never had Recompadrol though, but I KNOW AP worked for me. All the other supps are GREAT though. HAHA.
    one month -

    Ursabolic 40
    Recompadrol 30
    Shift 20
    EndoSurge 30
    Erase 30
    Anabeta 45

    Grand total: $195 for a month of insanity... hmm.... A bit too pricey for me lol.

    but a GREAT idea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    I think i would change out recompadrol with AP but that's just me. I've never had Recompadrol though, but I KNOW AP worked for me. All the other supps are GREAT though. HAHA.one month -Ursabolic 40Recompadrol 30Shift 20EndoSurge 30 Erase 30 Anabeta 45 Grand total: $195 for a month of insanity... hmm.... A bit too pricey for me lol. but a GREAT idea!
    Yeah dude def expensive. Could take out the anabeta and AP and still have a completely sick recomp stack for a bit less.
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    Anything from Ergo and I'm already sold. A price of $20 per bottle but you need two bottles for a one month run?. Why not just make bigger bottles?. Still I'm already looking forward to trying it out. I'm the most skeptical person when it comes to supplements but I trust Ergo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    It's more about increased sensitization to IGF-1 than increased levels, afaik.
    Stack with IGF-1 DES or LR3? HGH?

    Injectable Ursolic acid (diluted of course)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Anything from Ergo and I'm already sold. A price of $20 per bottle but you need two bottles for a one month run?. Why not just make bigger bottles?. Still I'm already looking forward to trying it out. I'm the most skeptical person when it comes to supplements but I trust Ergo.
    PA said on the phf thread that he got the wrong bottles, and next batch will be correct ones.Edit: after looking back at the phf thread i might be wrong. Lets wait for henry to clarify. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    PA said on the phf thread that he got the wrong bottles, and next batch will be correct ones.

    I'll just take mine in zip lock bags. Screw bottles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    PA said on the phf thread that he got the wrong bottles, and next batch will be correct ones.
    excellent. He give any ETA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    excellent. He give any ETA?
    Earlier in the this thread henry said next week, nothing exact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Anything from Ergo and I'm already sold. A price of $20 per bottle but you need two bottles for a one month run?. Why not just make bigger bottles?. Still I'm already looking forward to trying it out. I'm the most skeptical person when it comes to supplements but I trust Ergo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    PA said on the phf thread that he got the wrong bottles, and next batch will be correct ones.Edit: after looking back at the phf thread i might be wrong. Lets wait for henry to clarify. :-)
    Basically there was a miscalculation or miscommunication of how much they could fit in the caps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    Earlier in the this thread henry said next week, nothing exact.
    Afaik yeah. For a start, PA doesn't release details of a product unless it's in his hands ready to ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Basically there was a miscalculation or miscommunication of how much they could fit in the caps.



    Afaik yeah. For a start, PA doesn't release details of a product unless it's in his hands ready to ship.
    Sweet, I'll be keeping my eyes and ears open!
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    Henry, your thoughts on UB stacked with Oxo. It was asked over on PHF but you know PA doesn't really answer these questions.

    I have enough oxo to run 800 for a month. Is it redundant to stack with UB or awesome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fr0st View Post
    Henry, your thoughts on UB stacked with Oxo. It was asked over on PHF but you know PA doesn't really answer these questions.

    I have enough oxo to run 800 for a month. Is it redundant to stack with UB or awesome?
    Oxo is a brand of stock cubes and gravy granules. It's also a prefix in nomenclature for the functional group =O. There are also couple of PA's old products containing ketone functions that include the term; 6-oxo and 11-oxo. I assume out of all these things you mean 11-oxo.
    There would probably be additive effects, if that's what you're asking.
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