E-Pharm Test Force 2: Formula Write Up and ETA

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  1. So we know a release date yet? halfway through the month already...


  2. Quote Originally Posted by MasterMind View Post
    Really looking forward to this. Will it contain as much (90 grams) DAA as V1 per tub?
    each jar will contain 90 grams of DAA (as Ca Chelate) and 90 grams sarcosine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cogrick2 View Post
    If sarcosine has been used to ameliorate schizophrenia, it seems it could have psychological affects on normal people. Off hand, and knowing little, it seems it could make a person feel slow-minded (the opposite of schizophrenia). Any thoughts?
    uhhhh...whuh???


    Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    So we know a release date yet? halfway through the month already...
    September 22nd is our target date for shipping
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Cogrick2 View Post
    If sarcosine has been used to ameliorate schizophrenia, it seems it could have psychological affects on normal people. Off hand, and knowing little, it seems it could make a person feel slow-minded (the opposite of schizophrenia). Any thoughts?
    Sarcosine is said to alleviate both positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia. The definition of positive and negative symptoms as presented in wikipedia is the following



    Positive and negative symptoms

    Schizophrenia is often described in terms of positive and negative (or deficit) symptoms.[17] The term positive symptoms refers to symptoms that most individuals do not normally experience but are present in schizophrenia. They include delusions, auditory hallucinations, and thought disorder, and are typically regarded as manifestations of psychosis. Negative symptoms are things that are not present in schizophrenic persons but are normally found in healthy persons, that is, symptoms that reflect the loss or absence of normal traits or abilities. Common negative symptoms include flat or blunted affect and emotion, poverty of speech (alogia), inability to experience pleasure (anhedonia), lack of desire to form relationships (asociality), and lack of motivation (avolition). Research suggests that negative symptoms contribute more to poor quality of life, functional disability, and the burden on others than do positive symptoms.[
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Order is in. I can't wait
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  5. The only issue I have is with the number of containers you would need to follow the dosing protocol recommended.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  6. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    The only issue I have is with the number of containers you would need to follow the dosing protocol recommended.
    Ever try one scoop a day? It will last a month. Thats all I use now.

  7. PA, how many containers would you recommend for a decent cycle of this stuff? Big difference in results of a 4 week run compared to say a 6-8 week run?

  8. I've read of no advantage of taking more than one scoop a day.

  9. It looks like they want you to load for the first 3 weeks then go maintenance. I haven't run DAA solo but I just started taking it in another supplement with additional compounds.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Primal2 View Post
    Ever try one scoop a day? It will last a month. Thats all I use now.
    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    The only issue I have is with the number of containers you would need to follow the dosing protocol recommended.
    Don't forget TF2 has twice as much in, due to the added Sarcosine. So where with TF1 you'd take 1 scoop, with TF2 you take two scoops per serving, and there's 26 servings in the tub, not 26 scoops.

  11. Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 scoop (3.45g)
    Servings per Container: 26

    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    D-Aspartic acid
    (as D-Aspartate Calcium Chelate) 3000 mg **
    Sarcosine 3000 mg **
    Calcium
    (as D-Aspartate Calcium Chelate) 451 mg 45%

    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
    ** Percent Daily Values not established.

    Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Malic Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Aspartame, Acesulfame K


    Directions:
    Consume 2 scoops twice a day for three weeks. Afterwards consume 1 scoop a day. Cycles can last from three weeks to three months Preferably consume with food

    Dosing directions above^^^. It also says serving size is 1 scoop and there are 26 servings per tub for TF2.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  12. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post
    Don't forget TF2 has twice as much in, due to the added Sarcosine. So where with TF1 you'd take 1 scoop, with TF2 you take two scoops per serving, and there's 26 servings in the tub, not 26 scoops.
    Alright, maybe its the lack of current blood sugar, but now I'm confused. SO with TF2, one scoop does not contain 3g of DAA? I would need two scoops? too get that equivalent?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 scoop (3.45g)
    Servings per Container: 26

    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    D-Aspartic acid
    (as D-Aspartate Calcium Chelate) 3000 mg **
    Sarcosine 3000 mg **
    Calcium
    (as D-Aspartate Calcium Chelate) 451 mg 45%

    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
    ** Percent Daily Values not established.

    Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Malic Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Aspartame, Acesulfame K


    Directions:
    Consume 2 scoops twice a day for three weeks. Afterwards consume 1 scoop a day. Cycles can last from three weeks to three months Preferably consume with food

    Dosing directions above^^^. It also says serving size is 1 scoop and there are 26 servings per tub for TF2.
    I expect NP used the info from the TF1 profile. It's inaccurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Alright, maybe its the lack of current blood sugar, but now I'm confused. SO with TF2, one scoop does not contain 3g of DAA? I would need two scoops? too get that equivalent?
    Yeah. One 3g scoop will be half sarcosine and half DAA, so you'll need two scoops for one serving.

  14. Yeah, you should really have NP update that info. IF I knew the corrected info, I wouldn't have placed my order. I respond just fine to the original.

  15. PA,

    I have 2 full tubs of the old testforce. I read somewhere I can dump a TF2 into a TF1 and it'll be ok since there is plenty of sarcosine.

    Can I dumb one tf2 into 200 grams of tf1, or will this be too diluted?

    Thanks,

    Monk

  16. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Yeah, you should really have NP update that info. IF I knew the corrected info, I wouldn't have placed my order. I respond just fine to the original.
    TestForce 1 and TestForce 2 have the same number of servings. You are getting twice as much total product with TestForce 2 though, with the added sarcosine. Why wouldn't you want the extra sarcosine for free?

  17. 2 scoops per serving, with 26 servings, gonna last 13 days.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    2 scoops per serving, with 26 servings, gonna last 13 days.
    If you double dose it? Yeah. If you use one serving a day, it'll last 24 days. Just like the original.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    PA,

    I have 2 full tubs of the old testforce. I read somewhere I can dump a TF2 into a TF1 and it'll be ok since there is plenty of sarcosine.

    Can I dumb one tf2 into 200 grams of tf1, or will this be too diluted?

    Thanks,

    Monk
    Bumping this.


    Didn't want this question to go un-answered, with me trying to get my questions answered.

  20. New label states "preferably, consume with food"

    Is that because food will aid in absorption, or less chance of bowl irritability?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    New label states "preferably, consume with food"

    Is that because food will aid in absorption, or less chance of bowel irritability?
    The second option.

  22. Thank you.

    Sorry I kept misunderstanding what you were saying about the serving sizes. TestForce has been one of my favorite supplements, and I'm sure TF2 will be just as amazing.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Thank you.

    Sorry I kept misunderstanding what you were saying about the serving sizes. TestForce has been one of my favorite supplements, and I'm sure TF2 will be just as amazing.
    And I'm sorry if my responses were terse, I'd been arguing with some guys on a different forum and I was a bit wound up.

  24. Anyone know where to get TestForce 2? I see it is out of stock on NP
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