Luke1984 on an anabolic rampage! - Trenadrol + Epi + B12 Injects

[luke1984]

Current stats

Weight: 230lbs
Height: 6'1"
Body type: Endo-Mesomorph (more meso than endo)
Bodyfat: around 16% but subcutaneous water makes muscles look softer

Strength stats
Bench: 1 x 270lbs
Squat: 1 x 420lbs
Deadlift: 1 x 450lbs
Shoulder press (in smith): 1 x 260lbs

Cycle Goals

• Gain and maintain 10 to 15lbs of quality muscle
• Work on weak points like chest and back thickness
• Add 30-40lbs to all major lifts
• Hopefully drop a few % bodyfat

Cycle history

Cycle 1: 6 weeks of Revolt (Max LMG clone) - gained no mass or strength what so ever.

Cycle 2: 4 weeks of Epi - gained 4lbs and very little strength, made me feel good though, libido was great too.

Why trenadrol?

It seems trenadrol is one of the favorites. It's non-methylated, which is a plus, and it seems to give very good strength gains. I am a little worried about prolactin gyno though.

Why add Epi?
I simply love the libido boost it gives me. I feel euphoric and energetic on it. I'm afraid the Trenadrol will crush my libido and hoping to battle that with a moderate dose epi. Of course any added strength and/or mass gains from it are more than welcome.

Why B12 injects?

I'm hoping to get more energy. Every year in the winter I have the same lethargic feeling, and I'm hoping B12 can help with that. I'll be using the depot version (hydroxocobalmineacetate). I've ordered 20 vials, each containing 1000mcg of B12. I'm expecting them in the mail tomorrow, or maybe monday.
I'll be injecting 1 vial = 2ml = 1000mcg every other day, intramuscular.

Cycle

Week 1 - Tren: 90mg - ED Epi: 20mg ED - B12: 1000mcg EOD IM
Week 2 - Tren: 90mg - ED Epi: 20mg ED - B12: 1000mcg EOD IM
Week 3 - Tren: 90mg - ED Epi: 30mg ED - no B12 to prevent tolerance buildup
Week 4 - Tren: 90mg - ED Epi: 30mg ED - B12: 1000mcg EOD IM
Week 5 - Tren: 90mg - ED Epi: 30mg ED - B12: 1000mcg EOD IM

PCT

Clomifen Citrate - 100mg ED for 2 weeks then 50mg ED for 2 weeks (changed this from Nolva to Clomid)
Diesel Test Hardcore - 4 tabs ED
Reversitol - tapering down 3/2/2/1
Maybe some Lean Xtreme, not sure about that yet.

I'm also thinking about getting two bottles of X-Factor to run after this cycle to maintain as much strength and mass as possible.

Support Supps

Cycle Support - 1 scoop ED
Garlic caps - 2000mg ED
Fish Oil - 10g ED
Lecithin - 3g ED
CoQ10 - 200mg ED
Vitamin C - 2000mg ED
Vitamin B100 complex - 1 tab ED
Purple Wraath - 2 scoops intraworkout

For prolactin control:
P-5-P - 200mg ED
L-Dopa - 250mg ED

Training

4 day split:

Monday - Chest and biceps
Tuesday - Quads and hams
Wednesday - off
Thursday - off
Friday - Shoulders and triceps
Saturday - Back
Sunday - off

I'll post exercises and sets per day as the log progresses.

Diet

Diet is pretty clean. I eat around 5000kcals a day, sometimes a little less.
Diet mostly consists of brown rice, beans, patatoes, fatty fish, chicken breast, peanuts, cottage cheese and sometimes bread. I try to get about 250 grams of protein a day. I like eating healthy and I like eating alot, so that's never a problem. The plan is to up calories when weight goes up of course.

Pics?
I don't have a cam myself. Some of my friends do but I can never find the right time and place to make some good pictures.
I'm going to do my best to get some pics up though.
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All comments, questions, suggestions and tips are welcome.

I'm starting this cycle today and I'll be logging my progress. Wish me luck!

 

[Rugger]

Nolva is a bad idea.

 

[luke1984]

Nolva is a bad idea.

Well, I guess your probably right. What do you recommend, different SERM, no SERM?

 

[bigpapa]

Well, I guess your probably right. What do you recommend, different SERM, no SERM?

clomid

 

[luke1984]

clomid

I have access to almost everything at very good prices so getting some Clomid is not a problem. I already had the nolva, bought it for my previous cycle but never needed it.
I'm gonna get some clomid but I'm only going to use it if I feel it's needed.

 

[Ironpounder33]

Up your Epi dosages. You're a big dude. 30 mg ain't squat for you bro. Uppppp.

 

[bigpapa]

I have access to almost everything at very good prices so getting some Clomid is not a problem. I already had the nolva, bought it for my previous cycle but never needed it.
I'm gonna get some clomid but I'm only going to use it if I feel it's needed.

ur using trenadrol..a progesterone...use clomid

 

[luke1984]

Day 1, 2 and 3

Day 1 was shoulders and triceps. Nothing special to report. Had a lot of energy in the gym.
Libido is way up since day 1 of the cycle, that's the epi doing its work.

 

[luke1984]

Day 4

I had biceps and chest planned for today and legs for tomorrow, but I had some stuff to do and wanted to take a long nap so I'll be doing biceps and chest tomorrow and legs on wednesday.

I took the whole week off from work to mentally prepare before this cycle kicks in and to get lots and lots of sleep.

I'll be pinning some B12 tomorrow morning, and I'll be heading to the gym in the afternoon.

 

[luke1984]

Day 5

Workout for today: Chest and Biceps

flat barbell bench press - 12 x 185lbs, 10 x 205lbs, 6 x 230lbs, 6 x 230lbs
incline dumbell press - 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs (slow reps, dumbells don't go heavier in my gym which sucks)
chest press machine 10 x 240lbs, 10 x 240lbs, then a drop set from 240lbs

alternating dumbell curls - 12 x 45lbs(per hand), 6 x 55lbs, 6 x 55lbs, 6 x 55lbs
EZ curl bar curls(wide grip) - 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 110lbs
cable curls(narrow grip) - 8 x 90lbs, 6 x 100lbs, 6 x 100lbs, failure x 50lbs

It wasn't really a heavy workout, but the intensity was very high. I focused more on strict form than on weight. Pumps were insane! I had trouble putting my jacket on when I left the gym. I'm also experiencing some back pumps so I'm adding in Taurine at 10g a day.

Weight is 232lbs (+2lbs) but that's probably just water.

Injected some B12 into my right quad this morning. I decided to dose the B12 EOD instead of E3D.

Tomorrow is leg day! I love squats!

 

[luke1984]

Day 6

Today's leg workout was pretty intense, but no insane weights were used. What it looked like:

Barbell (Rear) Squat - 15 x 130lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 8 x 310lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 6 x 355lbs
Barbell Front Squat - 8 x 225lbs, 8 x 225lbs, 8 x 225lbs

Standing leg curl machine (with one leg) - 15 x 100lbs, 10 x 120lbs, 8 x 145lbs, 8 x 145lbs
Stiff legged deadlift - 12 x 130lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 8 x 240lbs, 8 x 240lbs

Leg extensions - 10 x 256, 8 x 310lbs, 6 x 330lbs, 6 x 330lbs

Felt very energetic today but no strength increases yet.

Tomorrow is an off day, friday is shoulders and triceps and back on saturday.

 

[luke1984]

Day 7

Off Day. Nothing special to report.

 

[luke1984]

Day 8

Shoulders and triceps.
This workout sucked donkey balls. I was very tired. I spent the night at a hotel with my girlfriend. The bed was way to soft and I woke up every hour with a numb arm.

 

[luke1984]

Day 9

Weight is up to 238lbs (+8lbs), most of it seems to be water though.

Back workout:
Chin-ups - 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight
Deadlifts - 15 x 155lbs, 10 x 245lbs, 6 x 330lbs, 4 x 375lbs (wanted to go heavier but had nasty back pumps, going to pick up some potassium for that)
Narrow supinated grip pull-down - 10 x 100lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 245lbs, 8 x 245lbs
T-Bar rows (weights are without bar) - 15 x 90lbs, 10 x 135lbs, 8 x 175lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 6 x 245lbs
Dumbell Rows(laying face-down on incline bench) - 8 x 55lbs, 8 x 55lbs, 8 x 55lbs, 8 x 55lbs, 15 x 40lbs
Wide pronated grip pull down - 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 15 x 135lbs

Pretty good workout but no real strength gains yet. The weights on some exercises felt a little lighter though.

I'm sweating like crazy, especially at night. The sheets are completely soaked every morning. I'm drinking at least 2 gallons of water a day so that should keep me hydrated.

Tomorrow is another off day, and monday is chest and biceps again.

 

[LiftBig11]

Nice log for sure man ill def keep tuned in for support and great gains!

 

[luke1984]

Day 10

Off Day.
I had one cheat meal today. I went to burger king and had a triple whopper

Man, that was good!

Libido is through the roof, had a great time with my girlfriend last night!

 

[luke1984]

Day 11

Chest and Biceps

This was the first time I really felt a difference in the gym since I started the cycle. The B12 injects also make me feel very good and energetic. The weights felt lighter on every exercise and I even benched 5 x 245 which is a new personal best. My bench kind of sucks so I'm very exited about even the littlest increase in strength.

flat barbell bench press - 12 x 185lbs, 10 x 205lbs, 6 x 225lbs, 6 x 235lbs 5 x 245lbs(new PR)
incline dumbell press - 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs
chest press machine 10 x 240lbs, 10 x 240lbs, then a drop set from 220lbs
incline dumbell flyes - 12 x 45lbs, 10 x 55lbs, 8 x 60lbs

alternating dumbell curls - 12 x 45lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 55lbs
EZ curl bar curls(wide grip) - 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 120lbs, 6 x 120lbs
cable curls(narrow grip) - 8 x 90lbs, 6 x 100lbs, 6 x 100lbs, drop set from 100lbs

The cycle's going pretty good so far. No real side effects other than little rise in blood pressure.

Weight is still around 238lbs.

 

[luke1984]

Day 12

Off day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 13

Legs again.

Today's leg workout was pretty intense, but no insane weights were used. What it looked like:

Barbell (Rear) Squat - 15 x 130lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 8 x 310lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 4 x 375lbs, 3 x 395lbs(new personal record!)
Barbell Front Squat - 8 x 225lbs, 8 x 225lbs, 5 x 245lbs

Standing leg curl machine (with one leg) - 15 x 100lbs, 10 x 120lbs, 8 x 145lbs, 8 x 145lbs
Stiff legged deadlift - 12 x 130lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 8 x 285lbs, 8 x 285lbs

Leg extensions - 10 x 265, 8 x 310lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 6 x 355lbs(new personal record!)


I noticed a very nice increase in strength today and had a very good workout.

Weight is still about the same, I'll weigh again tomorrow morning.

 

[luke1984]

Day 14

Off day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 15

Today was going to be shoulders and triceps, but for personal reasons I took a day off.

 

[luke1984]

Day 16

Took another day off for personal reasons.

 

[luke1984]

Day 17

Off day.

I'm extremely hungry all day long. Probably because of the B12 injects. I can't wait to go to the gym tomorrow and work on my chest and biceps.

Weight this morning was 240lbs (+10lbs)

 

[luke1984]

Day 18

Had a fantastic chest and biceps workout, strength was through the roof! I felt unstoppable. The Trenadrol is starting to show me its true power! Not all exercises went up, but my bench did. A lot.

flat barbell bench press - 12 x 185lbs, 10 x 205lbs, 6 x 225lbs, 6 x 235lbs, 6 x 245lbs, 6 x 255lbs(new PR), 3 x 265lbs(new PR)
incline dumbell press - 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs
incline dumbell flyes - 12 x 45lbs, 10 x 55lbs, 8 x 60lbs
chest press machine 8 x 270lbs, 8 x 270lbs, then a drop set from 270lbs

alternating dumbell curls - 12 x 45lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs
EZ curl bar curls(wide grip) - 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 130lbs, 6 x 130lbs
cable curls(narrow grip) - 8 x 100lbs, 6 x 110lbs, drop set from 115lbs

It sucks the dumbells don't go any heavier than 95 in my gym, but if I do slow, controlled reps on the incline dumbell press it can still be pretty heavy. My bench went up more than I expected. I have the feeling that by the end of this cycle I'll be repping my old 1RM.

I still feel pretty good. No lethargy, no drop in libido. My nuts did shrink a little though. I'm playing with the idea to get some hCG to get the boys back. My plan was to dose 2 x 1000IU in the last week of the cycle. But I'm not sure about that yet.

Weight is still the same.

 

[luke1984]

Day 19

Off Day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 20

Off Day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 21

Shoulders and triceps.
Nice workout but no extreme strength gains or anything.

Shoulder press in smith - 20 x 135lbs, 12 x 175lbs, 7 x 220lbs, 5 x 230lbs, 6 x 220lbs
Dumbell lateral side raises - 12 x 35lbs, 10 x 45lbs, 8 x 50lbs, 8 x 50lbs
Cable side raises - 10 x 25lbs, 10 x 30lbs, 10 x 35lbs

Skull-crushers (with EZ curl bar) - 15 x 55lbs, 12 x 80lbs, 7 x 100lbs, 5 x 120lbs, 7 x 100lbs
Rope push-downs - 10 x 90lbs, 8 x 100lbs, 6 x 110lbs, 6 x 110lbs
Cable tricep extensions(behind the head, extending upwards) - 8 x 175lbs, 7 x 185lbs, drop set from 185lbs

Weight is still around 240lbs, but bodyfat is down a little. I'm starting to see more vascularity on my arms.

Tomorrow is legs again!

 

[luke1984]

Day 22

Legs:

Barbell (Rear) Squat - 15 x 130lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 8 x 310lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 5 x 395lbs(new PR)
Barbell Front Squat - 6 x 265lbs, 6 x 265lbs, 6 x 265lbs(new PR)

Standing leg curl machine (with one leg) - 15 x 100lbs, 10 x 120lbs, 10 x 145lbs, 8 x 145lbs

Leg extensions - 10 x 265, 6 x 355lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 6 x 355lbs, 20 x 185lbs

All in all a good workout. Strength was up a little on squats.

 

[luke1984]

Day 23

Back:

Chin-ups - 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight, 8 x bodyweight
Deadlifts - 15 x 155lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 6 x 310lbs, 5 x 395lbs, 1 x 465lbs (new PR)
Narrow supinated grip pull-down - 10 x 100lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 245lbs, 8 x 245lbs
T-Bar rows (weights are without bar) - 15 x 90lbs, 10 x 135lbs, 8 x 175lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 6 x 245lbs
Two handed Dumbell Rows(laying face-down on incline bench) - 8 x 55lbs, 8 x 55lbs, 15 x 40lbs
Wide pronated grip pull down - 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 8 x 220lbs, 15 x 135lbs

I didn't see much increase in strength today. I deadlifted 465 which is 10lbs heavier than my old PR, but I lifted the same weights on all other exercises as two weeks ago.

Tomorrow's another off day, and next Monday is chest and biceps again.

 

[luke1984]

Day 24

Off day.

I slept till 11:30 PM and woke up with some bad ass muscle soreness in my lats. I feel good today, had more than enough sleep. I'll be hitting the hay early again tonight so I'll be at my best for tomorrow's workout. Time to totally demolish my chest and biceps agian!

 

[luke1984]

Day 25

Chest and biceps

Strength was up, but not as much as last week. I'm not seeing good strength gains on all exercises. My chest and bench have been my weak points and, logically, that's where I'm seeing the best gains. Had a good, energetic workout and a good pump.

flat barbell bench press - 12 x 185lbs, 10 x 205lbs, 6 x 225lbs, 6 x 235lbs, 6 x 245lbs, 4 x 265lbs(new PR), 2 x 258lbs(new PR)
incline dumbell press - 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs, 8 x 95lbs
incline dumbell flyes - 12 x 45lbs, 10 x 55lbs, 8 x 60lbs
chest press machine 8 x 280lbs, 8 x 280lbs, then a drop set from 280lbs

alternating dumbell curls - 12 x 45lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs
hammer curls(wide grip) - 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs, 6 x 60lbs
cable curls(narrow grip) - 8 x 100lbs, 6 x 110lbs, drop set from 115lbs

Weight is still about the same. I think my body is used to the dosages right now so it's time to up the dosages. I don't have enough trenadrol caps to up the dose right now, so I'll up it to 4 ED next sunday, and the saturday after that is the last day of my cycle.

 

[luke1984]

Day 26

Off day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 27

Legs.

Today's workout was nothing special. I saw no strength gains at all, I actually did less reps on my last squat set. I did have a headache during my last two exercises.

Weight is still the same...

I really enjoyed this cycle until last saturday. I didn't see any impressive strength gains on my last 3 workouts, and no weightgain in ten days. I'm pretty sure I'm eating more than enough, I upped my intake to 5500kcal a day. What's going on?

 

[luke1984]

Day 28

Off day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 29

Shoulders and triceps.

Had a short workout, only did 2 exercises per muscle group. No strength increases today.

Could this second bottle of Trenadrol be bunk? After I opened the second bottle last weekend I haven't had one good workout. The lot. number is smudged and unreadable. This sucks....

 

[luke1984]

Day 30

Today's workout sucked ass again.

Did only two exercises:
Chin ups - 8 x bodyweight, 6 x bodyweight+30lbs, 6 x bodyweight+30lbs
Deadlift - 10 x 135lbs, 10 x 225lbs, 6 x 310lbs, 5 x 395lbs, 3 x 420lbs

After deadlifts I was exhausted and felt dizzy. I did have a good meal 1 hour before my workout, but I felt like I got a hypo. I went home and loaded myself with dextrose and I felt better but stil very tired.

I don't know why this has been such a bad week. The first three weeks were awesome and side effect free. This week I've been having headaches and I didn't see much weight and strength gains. I'm going to finish the cycle though. I'm injecting 1500IU of hCG tomorrow and again on wednesday to start up my testes a little.

 

[luke1984]

Day 31

Off day.

 

[luke1984]

Day 32

Chest and biceps.
Strength was pretty good today, set a new personal record on benchpress: 1 x 310lbs. That's 45lbs up from my old 1rm!! Pretty f*cking sweet huh?!?!?!
I trew in some hammer curls into my bicep workout today, nice exercise.

I upped the trenadrol dose to 120mg last saturday.

Weight is still about the same.

 

[luke1984]

Finished my cycle last saturday. I didn't have the time to post last week.

I'm in PCT right now and I feel pretty good. Had a very good chest and biceps workout last monday and a great leg workout yesterday. Strength was actually up a little bit from last week.

All in all I really liked this cycle. I experienced almost no side-effects, had a few headaches and I sweated like crazy, especially at night. I didn't gain a lot of mass, I'd say about 10-12lbs. Bodyfat dropped a little. I did gain a LOT of strength. This stack made me strong as hell. I never expected this much strength.

I really feel like the B12 injects kept the lethargy away that's normally experienced on cycle. I stopped the B12 injects one week to avoid tolerance buildup and I felt very lethargic that week. When I started pinning the B12 again I felt great.

I'm going to let my body fully recover before starting something new. But I was contemplating a next cycle. I was thinking about doing a cutting cycle with Testosterone Propionate and maybe some H-Drol or Winstrol. Not sure about that yet though, I'm going to wait at least 'till June.

 

[nsmoney1]

Great job bud.. any pics? and how much weight did you put on total? looks like you had great strength gains though

 

[luke1984]

Great job bud.. any pics? and how much weight did you put on total? looks like you had great strength gains though

Sorry, no pics. I don't have a cam and I haven't seen any of my friends for a while(some of them have cams), I've been busy. It really sucks I don't have pics. It's hard to see your own progress without them. I don't feel like I look any bigger than a year ago but I gained 33lbs in 8 months or so (21 pounds naturally), so I know I am much bigger.

I put on about 12 pounds of muscle. The weight gains weren't that impressive but the strength gains were. I'll probably run a similar cycle again, but dosed a little higher and a week longer. It's been a lot of fun and I still feel pretty good a week after the cycle. I am thinking about doing a blood test a few weeks after PCT to see where my liver values and cholesterol are.