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Old 06-23-2008, 11:32 PM   #1
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TimberLakers' H-Drol Beatdown

First of all, much respect to the staples of the AM community. I've learned so much already from you guys over the past 6 weeks of reading and research - and I look forward to the continuing education. With that being said, I'm also looking forward to being able to give helpful and useful advice as well. My strengths up until this point have been cutting, muscle / cardio endurance, and functional strength training for boxing and MMA.

Just a little background. I started in martial arts at about age 11 in taekwondo. I competed internationally until the ripe age of 19 - including the Jr Olympics in '97, '98, and '99. I fought primarily at 138, with a few stints in slightly higher weight classes. I trained in Judo as cross training for taekwondo. So anyway, a six foot one cracker weighing under 140 - not hot. But nasty.

After high school, I fell in love with boxing - and jiu-jitsu. Conventional boxing training and an improved protein consumption naturally brought my weight up to about 150 / 155 continually. I dabbled with weights here and there, mostly to help with muscle stabilization - or to avoid injuries. I got a little more serious with the weights my third year of college (and by serious I mean I could put 25 pounders on the bar and pound out a few reps). I made myself stay at the freshman gym until I could finally bench plates. Regardless, I stopped formally competing in college.

After college (you guys still with me?), I moved to New York, where I picked up boxing again... and really got back into the thick of it. I got back down to 155lbs from 180. The 15 pounds was not good weight by the way. I trained for my job in London for 3 months which was pretty much a drunk fest accompanied with crappy food... long story short, I came back around 190, and 20% bf on a good day. Anyway, got back down to that 155 mark at about 8 % bf and started competing again at nightclub and bar shows. Ran the record up to 3 and 0... This puts me up to 6 months ago. I decided to start hitting the weights seriously for the first time in my life. Figured at first it would add some power to my punches and stuff, but I got hooked - and felt challenged by the other people at the gym who made me look silly.

So to sum things up - I'm 178 now and I'd estimate approximately 9 to 10 % bf. Just finishing up an AP / RC cycle (that I did not log - this is my first). I feel that the stack has done a very efficient job in a stable recomp.

Other supplements I've used over the past 7 months:
  • Protein, Protein, Protein!
  • DecaStack <- tastes like GARBAGE but absolutely awesome stuff
  • SuperPimp (Otherwise known as SuperPump)
  • Creatine Mono
  • Jugs and Jugs of Muscle Milk (eat *hit Garrett)

Food Staples:
  • Chicken
  • Oatmeal
  • Peanut Butter and Jelly
  • Veggies
  • Brown Rice / Quinoa
  • Subway (Holla at yo Boy, Jared)
  • Nuts (Almonds, Cashews, Pecans)

I'm pretty active at the gym. I go about 6 days a week and use that time to box / lift / cardio. My cardio is usually treadmill or bagwork.

Lifting is at least 4 days a week. I run a 4 day split with 1 day rest inbetween, with some variations depending on soreness or energy levels. The basic rundown is the following:
  • Chest / Triceps
  • Back / Biceps
  • Legs
  • Shoulders

Abs get fit in on 2 of those days, as well as oblique work... Would love some suggestions here if you guys have any. My target areas for this cycle will be my inner chest, legs, and general back. These are my weaker areas now... Now with that being said, I'm still going to bust the *hit out of everything else.

After careful deliberation, I've decided to undertake a 6 week cycle of H-Drol by Competitive Edge Labs. Dosing scheme will be 50/50/75/75/75/100. This puts me at 2 full bottles (3000mg) and dosing 2975 of those. I will decide what to do with that final pill sometime in the near future.. I may even run an online vote... perhaps crushing it up and going to the petstore - piranha tank anyone??

I will look to consume approximately 3000 calories a day. Would love some advice here as well in terms of caloric breakdown. I was thinking a 40/40/20 split... perhaps more towards the protein end. Calories will be split evenly throughout the day in 3 hour increments. Cardio will be limited to occasional LIT / MIT treadmil, jumprope / and two boxing workouts a week.

I will post my workouts daily, along with a general idea of my caloric intake. I will also look to take some pre-cycle pics, and reloads every week or two to show my (hopeful) progress.

Support Supplements:
  • Cycle Support - 1 week before cycle through end of H.
  • XTEND <--- Best *hit ever...
  • ON Protein
  • SuperPimp
  • Cissus
  • Muscle Milk
  • Fish Oils

PCT:
  • Milk Thistle: As per instructions
  • Nolvadex: 20/20/10/10
  • 6-oxo: -/-/100/200/300/200/100
  • Lean XTreme Intro at Day 14 of PCT
  • Diesel Test Hardcore: 3 pills daily - 3 days before end of H-Drol - 4 pills daily throughout PCT


Would love to hear everyones ideas and feedback. I am currently in the process of accumulating all the necessities. Likely this log will officially kick in mid to late July... So plenty of time for more suggestions / learning / edits. Also, shouts out to my West Coast homie Garrett, and Chris for all their help... Also the rest of you guys that I've gotten ideas and inspiration from indirectly.
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 12:37 AM   #2
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knt wait too see this man ! i hope it works well for you .. well from what i see your doing everything right man !

ill keep watching for you dude

BTW .. MY BEST FRIEND WON THE GOLDEN GLOVES THIS YR AT THE 112 CLASS ! (U HELPP ME OUTT ON HERE ILL HELP YOU WIN THE GLOVES ! )

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Old 06-24-2008, 08:42 AM   #3
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knt wait too see this man ! i hope it works well for you .. well from what i see your doing everything right man !

ill keep watching for you dude

BTW .. MY BEST FRIEND WON THE GOLDEN GLOVES THIS YR AT THE 112 CLASS ! (U HELPP ME OUTT ON HERE ILL HELP YOU WIN THE GLOVES ! )

GOOD LUCKKKKKKKK !

Thanks man. Looking forward to it as well.

Would love to take a shot at the gloves... but the NY Golden Gloves are DEEEEEEP... I have a new set of goals now. Thanks for jumping on.
 
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I am gonna follow this. I am starting in July. Can I ask why you decided to run Nolva? Just curious.....

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TimberLakers, you'll love this product. The gains won't be huge, but consistent. With all the cardio exercise you're doing I'd be tempted to increase my calorie intake a little more. If anything, you could even drop some of the exercise to prevent too much energy from being burned. H-DROL is considered to be more of a recomposition compound, so any fat gain will be minimal. I'm running it at the moment (50/50/75/75/100/100) and enjoying it. Best of luck to you mate. You sound like a wise man
 



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TimberLakers, you'll love this product. The gains won't be huge, but consistent. With all the cardio exercise you're doing I'd be tempted to increase my calorie intake a little more. If anything, you could even drop some of the exercise to prevent too much energy from being burned. H-DROL is considered to be more of a recomposition compound, so any fat gain will be minimal. I'm running it at the moment (50/50/75/75/100/100) and enjoying it. Best of luck to you mate. You sound like a wise man

Thanks Cub. I'll definitely be pulling back on the cardio exercise. It will be a nice change from an hour of HIT every day... Hard on my old man knees. Thanks for your support.
 
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I am gonna follow this. I am starting in July. Can I ask why you decided to run Nolva? Just curious.....

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There's quite a bit of back and forth on these forums about this... Some saying you don't need it at all, and some saying it was wise and necessary. Funny thing is, NO ONE is saying that its useless - it's the smart and safe route. I want the safest and most effective PCT. If you're a little less concerned abour your body, or want to save 40 / 50 bucks - then you can definitely find a ton of information on the boards about an OCT PCT.
 
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There's quite a bit of back and forth on these forums about this... Some saying you don't need it at all, and some saying it was wise and necessary. Funny thing is, NO ONE is saying that its useless - it's the smart and safe route. I want the safest and most effective PCT. If you're a little less concerned abour your body, or want to save 40 / 50 bucks - then you can definitely find a ton of information on the boards about an OCT PCT.
gotcha...that has been my concern. I have nolva at home for this, but more I read, it seems that unless you are running this at a ridiculously high dosage you more than likely won't need it....

I guess I will have to see myself when I get close to my PCT.
 
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gotcha...that has been my concern. I have nolva at home for this, but more I read, it seems that unless you are running this at a ridiculously high dosage you more than likely won't need it....

I guess I will have to see myself when I get close to my PCT.
Actually, a lot of people run it at 40/40/20/20... So comparitively, I'm cutting that in half...

But yes, just make sure you have what you need on hand before you start the cycle.
 
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AHHH!!!! I got beaten out to the first post! Darn it.

Oh well, great start to your log Timber.

And for the record, muscle milk is for weenies. But you're still my dawg.

Also maurice, Hdrol is an active compound, I suggest using a SERM with all active compounds.

I'm with ya on this one bro... why do I have the feeling that you are gonna start your cycle before I get to mine...

Ah, I am gonna have fun messing with you on this log...
 



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AHHH!!!! I got beaten out to the first post! Darn it.

Oh well, great start to your log Timber.

And for the record, muscle milk is for weenies. But you're still my dawg.

Also maurice, Hdrol is an active compound, I suggest using a SERM with all active compounds.

I'm with ya on this one bro... why do I have the feeling that you are gonna start your cycle before I get to mine...

Ah, I am gonna have fun messing with you on this log...
I still have a lot of shopping to do homeskillet.

Muscle Milk is known in several other countries as the "nectar of the gods"...
 
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gotcha...that has been my concern. I have nolva at home for this, but more I read, it seems that unless you are running this at a ridiculously high dosage you more than likely won't need it....

I guess I will have to see myself when I get close to my PCT.

Yo Maurice - I noticed in another thread that you tried H before... and bailed in week three because if a "very very bad" something or other - but you never explained what that was. Care to expand upon this? Much appreciated.
 
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I still have a lot of shopping to do homeskillet.

Muscle Milk is known in several other countries as the "nectar of the gods"...
Maybe in Uzbekistan, or wherever you are from.
 



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