[jpk]

Did you ever try any of the Cissus supplements? A lot of guys on this board swear by it for ligament and tendon issues. I've also heard murmerings about IGF working well for these as well.

[DreamWeaver]

Oh yah, I ran out so I ordered some from the "other" supplier and I hear back today that everything shipped except for the Cissus, I should have known better it's just that Nutraplanet did not have some of the products I was looking for. So I ended up ordering off Nutraplanet anyway live and learn.

[DreamWeaver]

So yesterdays workout supplied me with a phenomenal pump, which I attribute to drive and size on which always gives me a great pump. The thing I like about drive is you seem to keep a lot of the pump and muscle hardness 24/7.

The euphoric feeling after yesterdays workout was unbelievable as well. Again drive has this effect on me but I also believe that the routine I was doing really got the endorphins flying. I just couldn't stop smiling, I was pumped and really feeling good.

Hyperdrol and PCS should get honorable mention here as well as I believe there is some real synergy in all the products. I am no chemist so I don't know what it is. Products just seem to work well together.

Although I did experience some pain in my shoulder it was by and large a successful workout and I am optimistic about my rehab while being able to continue to do effective routines. Can't wait till my Cissus comes in and the real healing can begin.

Oh and I almost forgot to mention. I have experienced some moments of serious aggression on this PCT stack, so the test is coming back but I have to watch out I don't rage. Just something I have to be aware of.

[arizonanewbie]

Would Furaz and Havoc stack well for a clean bulker with some fat loss?

[DreamWeaver]

My thinking is that it would, but don't listen to me I know very little about havoc or how well it would stack with anything. I very rarely take anything non-herbal and when I do it is mild. I am a natural guy who grew old and just wants to see some progress for his hard work.

[flu1d]

Great log DreamWeaver. I've been thinking about what to run over the summer, something mild as I'm on a cycle now, and your log has been very informative.

[DreamWeaver]

Well it's a good product for fat loss and keeping muscle.

My leg day was short and sweet and intense. I am doint single leg exercises light weight high reps next to no rest. I am alternating legs without stopping 4 sets of 10. It's pretty grueling.

The shoulder is getting better so I am hoping I won't miss any unplanned time off. I have plans.

[DreamWeaver]

Wow, I have to say I am pretty amazed by one thing. It is the continued dissapearance of fat without weight loss. I feel but what I see in the mirror I should lost another couple pounds last week and there is no weight loss whatsoever. Fat loss is a bit slower than had I been on an all out cut but it's obvious that I am acturally putting on some muscle during this cycle and PCT. I have always been an easy gainer and was able to have some success with this without supps, just not to this degree.

I believe that my PCT products Drive\Hyperdrol\PCS(Stoked) would be a nice standalone stack for recomp and will be part of my arsenal for the future. I can't comment on strength gains (although drive has helped in the past) but the recomposition results speak for themselves. I will also give credit to the Furazadrol having some residual in the first stages of PCT.

As far as HPTA recovery I would estimate it at around 90% as I said shutdown was mild and probably would be next to non-existant on a short cycle like 4 weeks.

[DreamWeaver]

My shoulder was really hurting me last night at the gym, no worse than last week I suppose didn't seem much better either. It's light weight though and I didn't push it.

I had to tighten my belt another notch so I thought I must have lost weight so I got on the scale and I was up a pound. Is this the best PCT ever ? I just keep getting leaner and bigger.

I wore my new tshirt from my recreate purchase to the gym yesterday as I am feeling pretty buff these days and it is pretty tight. People were surprised to see how huge I really an as I usually wear baggy clothes so this is there first real gander at the 20" pipes. I felt really good when a buddy said that I was the biggest person he'd ever seen in there.

I am still using PGHT and I really find it is makng a difference with my skin. I have some loose skin but not as bad as it could be.

I got impatient and popped my first recreate, I am not used to caffine so I do have a bit of a buzz. I will start with 1 and 1 for the first few days then move to 2 and 1 untill I feel ready for 2 and 2. I well be on recreate for a total of 10 and a half weeks, boy I should be really cut this summer, and it's so freakin unbeleivable that I have maintained so much size. Don't tell me these supps don't work. I would be weakened and losing muscle without them.

[bigboi42]

that was a great log. sorry bout the shoulder problem. i am getting ready to start on a 11oxo/furaza cycle next week and am still trying to figure out which dose i want to use. i am looking to lean out but also add some muscle. i am 5'11" 235 18% bf. any feedback would be greatly appreciated

[DreamWeaver]

You know I would run it steady at around 250 if I were you maybe start off a 200 see how that treats you. If I were to do it again I'd just do 5 weeks at 250, I'm a little bigger than you so maybe less is good for you.

Well nothing much to report but I do have some first impressions on Recreate. I took one pill in the am and one around 2 yesterday and another this morning. I definitely feel stimulation as I am not used to caffine but like most say it's more a a euphoric feeling but for me there is some extra buzz as I am very sensitive, hence breaking it into my system slowly. Appetite suppression is very good, just right really, I can still eat but no urge to overeat. Body temp - well I thought at first there wasn't too much of a difference I always sweat a lot when I do cardio, so yesterday was the same I was sweating like a pic. Then I realized it's only 67 degrees and I'm sweating like I would at a higher temperature. Now when I am typing this I can feel some extra heat as well. Energy is good the euphoric feeling again.

Another thing, my cissus came in, thank you nutraplanet for me usual timely delivery. I just wanted to say super cissus seems to have an immediate effect, there must be a anti-inflamatory in it. Anyways good stuff.

[DreamWeaver]

Very good workout, these light weight high rep/high intensity workouts are really very exhausting. I hardly rest at all between cylces may have a lot to do with it. The long and the short of it is I trained like an animal.

Super Cissus is remarkable I have gained a lot of my range back but I am still careful. I back off when I feel I am getting too strained.

The Recreate is making my sweat profusely, even though I do feel some warmth periodically any activity really has the temperature up. My diet is immaculate on this stuff no cravings and I don't overeat but I am still able to eat what I should.

I noticed some of my obliques coming in and weighed 245 exactly so that is a little down from earlier in the week. I expect this trend to continue at about 1 lb a week as my diet is right on and well the weight has to drop some time. I find myself at a slightly higher weight than when I started my cycle only much leaner. This can't go on forever can it...

Speaking of maintaining mass while on PCT, I feel that the combo of HD X2, Drive and PCS has really worked well, it's the only way I can explain the remarkable PCT I am having body comp wise. I just keep getting leaner and the scales hardly move.

[DreamWeaver]

Little update here, not too much to report.

PCT continues to go very well, I have not lost even a once of muscle (although add mass was not my goal). I have mostly recovered from a mild shutdown, full recovery seems imminant.

I am taking 2 recreate in the morning one in the afternoon. I already seem to be reaping some benefits, I am very positive I will have some success with this. I will continue it into my next cycle which I will log separately in the logs section.

Shoulder has recovered some, Cissus is good but I have to be carefull not to reinjure it. I will continue to lift light but intense gearing my workouts towards weight loss. The products I am taking seem to do a good job of preserving mass.

[DreamWeaver]

fuk, fuk, fuk

I reinjured my shoulder, so even light weight appears to be a problem so I am officially sidelined.

I will have to concentrate of pure fat burn for a while I guess. I suppose I have plenty of muscle to spare. If I continue to lose very slowly then I might not lose much muscle. I will finish my PCT without the Drive (will save it to fight another day). I will then just run the fat burning supps Recreate/Napalm/Sesamin/Fish Oil etc..

I will save my IGF2 and Drive to run with the new Neovar at a later date. We'll see what the therapist has to say about rehabing my shoulder, maybe it's not as bad as I thought and I can work around it.

[jpk]

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