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Old 02-09-2008, 01:27 PM   #31
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SUS500 has only one progestin in it, Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione is not a progestin. G.E.T. also includes a small amount of ATD in its formula to combat estrogenic sides from using the two compounds. Most users still have issues with SUS500, despite the inclusion of ATD. Finigenx Magnum(your formula)has DHEA in it, which coupled with Revolt can cause more estrogenic problems due to aromitization. BTW, its not just a theory. I'm trying to save you from future problems.
Slow-Mun...Sus500 has two progestins. Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione is a progestin....That's what I thought.

Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione (The same compound as the old Fini)

13-Ethyl-3-Methoxy-Gona-2, 5(10)-Diene-17-One (This is the same compound as Revolt.)
 



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Slow-Mun...Sus500 has two progestins. Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione is a progestin....That's what I thought.

Estra-4 9-Diene-3 17-Dione (The same compound as the old Fini)

13-Ethyl-3-Methoxy-Gona-2, 5(10)-Diene-17-One (This is the same compound as Revolt.)
Finigenx Magnum was not a progestin. Its an inaccurate assumption by G.E.T..
 



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Old 02-12-2008, 07:12 PM   #34
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Yesterday to late today, my internet was not working!!!! Rotten internet!! Anyways I'm back online!

Yesterday...was Day 8!


Energy Level: Was Ok! Got tired after lunch! Got some wind again late in the afternoon...

Workout: Leg day...I was not concentrated like my last leg workout, but it was still ok! My legs are still sore...it's all good! I did 7 sets of Leg Press, 4 sets of Hack Squats and Seated Leg Curls. I also did some very light seated calve raises...volume day for calves!

Aggression: Nothing abnormal yet...

Libido: Better! My littles buddies are happy!


I can feel a little tiny difference up to now....
A feel comparable to a Test Booster!

Studies have shown that DHEA takes a plunge around 27 years old! So it's good idea to supplement some to your body!

Notes: My lack of energy during the afternoons...

I think it's because my Finigenx serving are so late in the day compared to my off-days! On my workout days...I take my first serving 1 hour before my workout which is around 3 oclock and the other one right after my workout. I also take 25mg of ATD late at night. On my non-workout days, i take 25mg mid-morning, 25 mid afternoon and 25mg of ATD!


Today was my off-day! Nothing really to document! Ohh! I guess I do....I got a bunch of supplements that I had ordered 2-3 weeks ago! Damn customs!!!

I got my PowerFULL and RPM, Havoc, Phera-Vol, 2 bottles of Orange Triad, Liver Care, L-Taurine and Fenugreek...I think that's it! Got me some stuff for later!!!

Can't wait to finish this sissy stack..and try Phera-Vol or Havoc. Got some other supp coming to later...

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Scorp, I wouldnt take that much ATD, you dont need to to counter act DHEA's effects.... plus it will eventually kill your libido if it hasnt already. Id take it non workout days only and take 25-50mg only right before bed.
 



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Scorp, I wouldnt take that much ATD, you dont need to to counter act DHEA's effects.... plus it will eventually kill your libido if it hasnt already. Id take it non workout days only and take 25-50mg only right before bed.
Ok! Just on my non-workout days! Can I go up to 50mg?? 25mg seems good enough...not sure!
 



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I was wondering can I take my ATD with POWERFULL too? Before bedtime...
 



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I was wondering can I take my ATD with POWERFULL too? Before bedtime...
preferably take ATD with your last meal containing fat even if thats 3 or 4 hours before bed, 50mg is cool, but if your libido drops and it bugs you drop down. wait to take the powerfull right before bed on an empty stomach or at least with only protien and water, no carbs at all.
 



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preferably take ATD with your last meal containing fat even if thats 3 or 4 hours before bed, 50mg is cool, but if your libido drops and it bugs you drop down. wait to take the powerfull right before bed on an empty stomach or at least with only protien and water, no carbs at all.

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Could I incorporate RPM on my workout days for a pre-workout supplement?? Is it too much??
 



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Could I incorporate RPM on my workout days for a pre-workout supplement?? Is it too much??
hell no, RPM is the shiz! take it and enjoy my man!
 



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hell no, RPM is the shiz! take it and enjoy my man!
Cool! Thanks! I've read awesome reviews on this product! Can't wait to try it today!

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Day 10....Workout day! 8ml around 1 oclock and 8ml after my workout.

Energy Levels at work: It was moderate at work! I had a bad headache at work, I had to take some Advil to ward it away!



Energy Levels at the gym
I took RPM 1 hour prior to my workout! This was my first try at RPM..let me tell you! WOW!! This is a good product! This is an excellent pre-workout supplement! Kinda reminds me of an ECA stack with less jitters! So with the help of RPM, I had a great workout! Today I worked out my Triceps, Biceps and forearms.

Aggression:Today I was a little irritable at work, I'm sure that the headache didn't help!! But some of my co-workers today got on my nerves!!! I actually felt like this all week!!

Others observations: I got a little minor acne breakout on my face and couple little reds dots on my neck. Nothing major, not panicking over this! This is similar to when I take test boosters! Tomorrow it will be cleared out!

Note: My motivation is up there, so this is helping my training a lot! Of course is also helps that my diet is steady and consistent!

Up to now, my body is reacting good to my diet and supplements. I feel a little bit heavier, plus i also feel that I lost some bodyfat...a little. This is pretty good considering that my diet is not set to recomp! My goal is too add lean mass while maintaining my bodyfat levels the same! Up to now....I'm on the right path!!!!



Today I planned things differently. I took my Finigenx Magnum around 1 oclock in the afternoon. I found that taking before and after my workouts was too close. I also stopped taking my Vitargo CGL with my Post-Workout shake. I just load it with BCAA, Glutamine and Whey Protein. I usually eat 30 to 45 minutes after my workout so i'm not too worried about it!

It indicates on the bottle to spread the doses 6 to 8 hours apart. Pharmagenx chemist Brian Rubach had given some advice for this product. This is what he e-mailed me back:

Q Would I need to start a PCT while I'm on this product.

A IF you have need PCT please start that and complete a full cycle of PCT (4 weeks) before you start. A good PCT should be 1) Gonadotropin stimulant 2) Anti estrogen 3) Androgen clearance product. Once you system is back in line then you can do Finigenx.




Q. Would I need to worry about estrogen conversion, liver support, and my cholesterol and triglycerides levels while using this product?

A. As long as your system is functioning properly Finigenx would not effect the above. IT has low affinity for the AAS receptor, conversion to estrogen or DHT. So your natural test suppression should not be a factor. Finigenx works by supplying you body with ATP (To increase Protein synthesis) and Ergosteroids (to stop protein wasting.) Your strength and muscle harness will go up considerably first, followed by up to 7 lbs in the first 2 weeks.



On Finigenx Please diet with High Protein moderate carbs and good fats should be abundant. (75-90 gr/day). But keep sugar almost non existent maybe 1 time a week. For your body weight Protein should be 225-250 gr. Fat 75-80 gr and carbs (good complex carbs and leafy green vegetables) 200-250 gr you may go up slightly on the carbs depending on you metabolism this should get you around 2600-3000 Kcal per day. Spread this out over 6 meals.



Take the 4 ml Finigenx 2 times daily 6-8 hours apart with one dose before training.

Don’t skip a dose Finigenx relies on building blood levels up over time. IF you miss a dose you have to then take 4 ml 3 X daily 8 hrs apart for 2 consecutive days to catch up.



That's it for today...


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Day 12...another workout day! 8ml around 10am, 8ml Post-Workout.

Energy Levels: During work, my energy levels was good. About 2 hours before my workout, I took some RPM! This product is extremely hardcore!!! For me especially, 3 pills is way too much for me! This stuff works better than an ECA stack!!!

As for my energy levels at my workout...It's was good but mixed with anxiety and some jitters so it's blocked some of my concentration. Next time 2 pills only!!!!

Today I work out my chest, back and a little of shoulders. I concentrated on my upper chest, upper back. As for my shoulders, I only did a set of side laterals. I didn't have time to train my shoulders this week...so this was a a quick thing to keep them stimulated for this week!

Aggression: I see a little difference. This of course helps with my strength gains at the gym!

Strength: I noticed a slight increase in strength in this workout compared to my last.

Mood: This week my mood was a little better compared to prior ones...

Libido: No real changes, drop a little...compare to as a normal day. It didn't drop by any means....

Gains and progress: I can positively feel a difference in my body, my body fat dropped quite a bit and so far my muscle mass stayed even so maybe a slight increase. The mirror is your best instrument for these comparisons...

As I said before, my diet is not set for recomp but still my body is reacting to this cycle very well.
I have cheated on my diet many times, sneaked some of my girlfriends yummy chocolate chip cookies at night and at work! They're good!! haha Even if i'm taking RPM on my workout day but up to now I only took RPM two times, so I can't say that RPM is responsible for some body recomp.....


As of now, I can personally say that Finigenx Magnum and RPM would be a great recomp cycle that would work extremely well together!


Finigenx Magnum would help to maintain muscle mass while having anti-cortisol properties which would help on a constricted diet like a low carb or low calorie diet. RPM would definitely help with for the energy levels, appetite suppression and fat loss properties.
 



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