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Old 01-15-2008, 01:16 PM   #31
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Haha i was making fun of your nipples. I was just informing you incase you didnt know because nipple issues are not fun. Im dealing with some mild gyno right now but, Letro seems to be working so Im happy. You might want to pick a strong Ai cause you may run into some problems later in this cycle. Other than that long post i just wrote this cycle looks great Eat up brotha!!!
 
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Yea link im running nolva thru the entire cycle, its been keeping any gains so far extremely dry, that and lipo-6+ephedrine seems to be keeping me pretty dry but i been drinking water and eating like armageddon is coming!
 
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ok did my legs today!!

results are rather impressive!

did my usual squatting routine of:

warm up squats w-bar only x 15
135x12
185x10
225x10
275x7

gained some reps, also getting a lot deeper with the reps


Leg slide/press:

started heavier than usual with

10plates total x 12
14plates total x 9
16plates total x 7

I believe on my sust cycle 14 plates was my max but I was upperbody wild back then, like a huge triangle with stick legs lol

then i did the
midget kicker exercise i call them, its for glute/hams

last week i did stack x 10 for 3 sets, this week

stack x 20 for 2 sets

hamstring curl machine

stack x 7
stack x 6

quad extensions

stack x 15

I didnt do too much isolation work since my legs were pretty tired but I did improve my max on the legslide.

Agression: 8.5... i been having day dreams of fighting people, today i felt like my legs were as powerful as a running back and that surely in a game of tackle football with my freinds id be crushin people even running the ball...maybe its just the great weekend of NFL playoffs this weekend...maybe not?

Lethargy: 6 didnt get any lethargy yesterday actually felt pretty good. upped my stim intake though but i fell asleep quite easily.

Everything else sidewise; nothing worth mentioning
 
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Old 01-17-2008, 02:48 AM   #34
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alright did back today, still havent gotten any lifting straps, so deads,

135x10,
225x8
315x5
365x1
315x3

didnt go up to my max again, but i did more work, and i did it faster today, next week, straps 4 sure

next exercise,

heavy T-bar
3 plates x 10,
4 plates x 7 85% ROM
4 plates + 25 plate x 4 75%ROM
3 plates x 9

lat bar

230x8 90% ROM
STACK x 5 70% ROM
240 x 5 80% ROM

ya i did go pretty heavy and sacrafice some rep quality, but i also did:

seated row machine, seated 1 arm cable rows, 1 set of widegrip pulls x failure, reverse grip lat pulldown supersetted with close grip lat pulldown. i did these with really good form in the 8-12 rep range.

i think i made some gains in strength this week,
still weighing 202 lbs, i think my body composition is changing though

i noticed some ladies were chatty with me today, one even touched my shoulder and said i was gettin big and asked me ''all natural?'' she is a sheriff so, naturally i backhanded her right off the bat. LOL not.

as far as sides, aggression seems to be the most notable side thus far and some lethargy post workout.

not really making any size gains just getting stronger, and damn i been eatin man....

today for example

ive had a ~3/4 gallon of 1%milk
4 syntha-6 22g protein shakes
i reckon thats about 200g of protein alone there

i had a bowl of cheerio's lol
5 eggs w/light cheese & milk added to it
3 packets of oatmeal
string cheese
1/4 cup of natural peanut butter
fish burrito(tortilla, shredded cheese, beans, fish, magno salsa)
large casadia(bean and cheese)

ill prolly sneak a little more peanut butter and one more protein shake later 2nite,

but i mean,
protein shakes alone = 1000 calories
3 tortillas/3 oatmeal packets = 720
12 servings of 1% milk = 1500
5 eggs = 300
cheerios = 150

3670 calories from what i can count off boxes

+beans/cheese/peanutbutter, also ate a small piece of french bread

im guessing around 4100-4300+ calories and 250-300g+ of protein and im not gaining any weight, absolutely rediculous. i think im gonna take up drinking again and hit the 99 cent menu at mcdonalds!!!

i think my body composition is changing at least and im def gettin stronger.
 
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:13 AM   #35
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well i just really want to say first of all im outright shocked at my bench workout 2day, my weight has been maintaining so i believe i am recomping but i wasnt quite sure;

anyway, today i did CHEST and i wanted to go for a max style routine

135x10
225x6
250x3
275x2
315 x 3 no assists

i find that to be rather rediculous, seeing as my weight has been maintaining at 202 despite the fact im eating small villages for breakfast lunch and dinner but im stoked

after that i was really in shock i wasnt expecting to pwn 315 like that

then after that i decided to do something different than usual keeping with the trend and i did some gnarly tri-sets

trisetted:

incline chest flyes
closegrip bench
incline db bench

did 3 sets, 6-12 reps

then i moved into another section and set up another triset

db pullovers
chest flyes
decline smith bench

3 sets 7-10 reps

then i did some seated chest fly on the machine, did them with 1 arm x 3 sets

only other thing besides that massive bench i did today that was notable was:

even while trisetting that first group of exercises i was able to get 95lb DB's up for incline db by myself on the 3rd set, i also find that to be rediculous lol. daddy like

ehhh other than that, sides were relatively mild today i did not feel the slightest out of the norm at any point really, i feel a little awkward at my new job right now thats because im just starting there but other than that i feel great.

even the lethargy i havent really noticed, but i have been taking 2 DHEA caps with the decabolen b4 i work i workout.

added chromium piconolate or whatever to my current supp stack.

asses wuz kicked, names wuz taken. AMEN!
 
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:24 AM   #36
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i re-nig on my previous statement regarding PWO lethargy. it is pretty bad man, im almost too lazy to eat. lol.
 
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try taking 1 sdng 45 min before the decabolen for the lethargy. it should help
 



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Old 01-18-2008, 11:55 AM   #38
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i have tried taking 2 SDNG caps and 1 decabolen Pre WO, still the same result. I find taking some stims obviously helps, but I had to workout late last nite. Im working out at 3:00 today sooo i think i will take 20mg/100mg epehdrine(bronkaid tab)/caffeine(lipo-6 cap) Post WO and see how how that goes. Ive been trying to cut the stims out though.

Soooo yea.
 
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:36 PM   #39
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well just got done doing arms, i worked out with my buddy whos a lot stronger than me and works out a lot faster than me so i worked out at a lot different pace than usual, really taxing. always does 4 sets, hardly rests between sets lol.

did 21s starting at 65, 85, 95, 65. very little rest between sets.

then hammer curls, one arm cable curls.

triceps

rope downs

4x10 stack

skullcrushers

65x10, 85x10, 105x8, 85x9

overhead doublehanded DB xtension

80x10, 90x9,85x8, 80x11

did some like, laying one arm tri xtensions to burn out

yea, pretty grueling considering how fast he worksout, but i did better than usual trying to keep up with him.
 
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Did cardio today, legs got so pumped they were heavy. it was hard to run a mile but i did it fast enough, did some abs. That was it.

I think im going to just 1 decabolen cap in the morning ED.

the PWO lethargy is at a reality warping level. lol. other than that I 'feel' fine, my elbows hurt a little from the heavier lifting, but not much... Libido is going down a little bit I'd rate it at 4 now...Eyes seem to be kinda red all the time (no not yellow lol)

everything else seems to be stabilized.

At this point Im thinking decabolen would be best used as a recomp or cutting supplement It definately does not produce huge mass gains from what Ive seen so far, its been almost 2 weeks. Im getting stronger but all measurements are staying about the same but my bodyfat is lowering. Thus far the only truley impressive quality to this supplement is strength gains, comparable to dianabol without the water retention. But its only about halfway, so we shall see....
 
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The decabolen is really good for strength, but your right about not getting massive gains. I only build for strength with size as a nice bonus so it works well for me, but I guess its just a personal preference
 
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ok today was shoulders again;

i had to workout late again, i had no NANOVAPOR cuz i got school tommorow morning

anyway:

seated DB military,

55x8
65x6
75x5
85x5
95x6

definate improvement over last week, gaining the large vein in my front delt when i get pumped

then i did

clean and press

135x8

then i got a little greedy and attempted 185 clean and press, i missed it the first time, then i

185x1 + 3 presses

i only cleaned it once, **** is heavy.

then 175 x 3 + 3 presses

then 130x 8 press only

ive never cleaned 185 so i felt good about that

after that, did some cable mid delt work and my usual finishing exercise

so i definately gained some strength. weight is up a little.

anyway sides:

feel no pain in my body, no headaches

libido is down, hunger is normal, mood swings none, aggression is down from the beginning;
lethargy seems to vary, no lethargy today, i think that caffeine compounds the effect of the lethargy
libido is down, i havent relieved myself in like 3 days, lol.

so this leads me to believe my natural test is shut down now and i believe this will be my last week taking this supplement and i will begin my PCT and take some after pics and see how much of the strength i keep.

my BF is definately going down though. this is a great stealth supp if you dont want anyone to know youre taking anything hormonal since the sides have been mild for me and theres no explosion of mass like you might expect from something like this. this might be a good supplement for athletes that have weight classes, but if mass is all you care about, this is not for you, but you will impress people with your strength! legs tommorow, im going to have to train at night once again due to school, work.
 
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yesterday was pretty grueling. had my first day of school, got up at 5am with about 5 hours of sleep, so i did school from 8 to about 1,
then i had to work until 7:30,
then i went into the gym around 8:30 and hit legs, finally got home around 10 and passed the F out around 12.

legs, i did the same workout as last week, it was a lot easier though and i was gettin down real low on the final sets.

other than that i have relatively not sides at all that i can feel.
cant wait til spring time at the college and the lil skanks wear their skirts. lol.
 
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its got to be hard to do an evening workout after that
 



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ok today will be my first day taking the decabolen for those of you unfamiliar with it, it is composed of:

4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-Andro-4-Ene-3,17b-Diol 25 mg
2a,17a-Dimethyl-17b-Hydroxy-5a-Androstan-3-One 10 mg
2-Ene(17a-Methyl-Etioalacholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol) 10mg


25mg of halodrol,
10mg of phera plex and,
10mg of superdrol

hopefully this is a good clone and i get some good gains, but just taking the SDNG seems to be working good too.

as the typical BB motto goes...more must be better though right???

I hope your taking 2 pills a day or the results (well you won't have any results) You need at least 50mg of haladrol and 20 of pp to make any kind of significant gains. I'v seen gains with 10mg of SD though.
 
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At this point Im thinking decabolen would be best used as a recomp or cutting supplement It definately does not produce huge mass gains from what Ive seen so far, its been almost 2 weeks. Im getting stronger but all measurements are staying about the same but my bodyfat is lowering. Thus far the only truley impressive quality to this supplement is strength gains,.
With this product i would say the bare minimum weight gain would be 10lbs. I have seen as high as 25lbs from guys that purchase at my store. As it is 3 active steroids that produce on average 8 pounds each. So i would say something is wrong. Possible you are over training? Novla at 10mg is hindering gains? food intake? Not sure but i would say something is wrong
 
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food intake is most likely