cycle for strength

[caley.garot]

Hello there friends.
ive read over the net about cycles and stuff but havent
really found anything strength oriented.
im thinking about it very hard and am a planning person
so im looking for all advice i can get before i do something
this serious.
im training naturally now and have a fairly clean diet.
all advice is more than welcomed

 

[caley.garot]

im thinking about sus , tren and deca for the joints.
any ideas anyone?

 

[Mystere3]

I would not start with that; would consider anavar or tbol alone first.

 

[caley.garot]

all orals?
isnt it gonna be hard on the liver?

 

[Mystere3]

Those are very mild orals and you could run either for 8 weeks. Injected tren is harder on the liver then either of those.

 

[caley.garot]

would winny help the mix?

 

[Mystere3]

would winny help the mix?

No. Winny is best used to finish an injectable cycle, not with other orals. Unlike tbol and var it's also very liver toxic.

 

[caley.garot]

I've read it helps in lean mass

 

[caley.garot]

I like the all orals idea.its easier cause I travel a lot and carrying fridge stuff is hard

 

[Mystere3]

I've read it helps in lean mass

Not really. It's more of a performance enhancing drug for sports and a hardener when used for bodybuilding.

 

[caley.garot]

Would this combination hurt the joints?

 

[Mystere3]

Would this combination hurt the joints?

Nope.

 

[caley.garot]

Ill look into dosages..any gyno expected?
I'm not prone but better safe than sorry..

 

[Mystere3]

Nope

 

[Lukef2000]

Since you've been all natty so far why not try something like epistane?? I had some impressive strength gains on vital labs Epi. 90lbs on my deadlift in 6 weeks.

 

[caley.garot]

Epistane?never heard of it..ill look into it too.any info?

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Epistane is a designer steroid. It's a great compound. Check the link in my signature and you'll find it - it's EP15TANE.

However, if your goal is just STRENGTH I'd go with dimethandrostenol. D1METHADROL is on sale at nutri-verse.com - discount code D1METH20 gives you 20% off. Some people compare dimethandrostenol to Halotestin

 

[caley.garot]

Would Epistane wield greater results than anavar and tbol mentioned before?

 

[MuscleJ]

Caley it sounds to me you need some more studying. You should look
Up each product name everyone is listing and research upon it.

 

[caley.garot]

There is so much info floating around I've read much already but I guess inside knowledge is invaluable.

And since I started on the wrong foot let me rectify..
I'm 34 weigh 90kilos and am 175cm.
My bf is about 15%
A few lifts.
DL 210kilos
BP 110k
Sq 160k
.
im mostly looking for leaning out and more strength

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Epi would be great for you.

 

[Driven2lift]

Epi would be great for you.

Agreed, Epi won't do you wrong

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/olympus-labs-ep15tane-120-capsules.html

15% off with the code OLYMPUS15

 

[caley.garot]

Can't shop overseas customs

 

[Mystere3]

With those goals I would run anavar or tbol.

If you have access to these for a good price I would never run epi.

 

[Lukef2000]

Can't shop overseas customs

Where are you exactly?

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Can't shop overseas customs

If you're from Europe, JW Supplements is a good place to buy from

 

[Lukef2000]

With those goals I would run anavar or tbol. If you have access to these for a good price I would never run epi.

Out of curiosity why not??

 

[caley.garot]

If you're from Europe, JW Supplements is a good place to buy from

Ill check it out thanks

 

[Lukef2000]

Man I'm in Australia and if PH/DSs can get pas your customs here they can get through over there. I've never had anything stopped from orbit.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Man I'm in Australia and if PH/DSs can get pas your customs here they can get through over there. I've never had anything stopped from orbit.

Don't be so sure.I'm from Scandinavia and I know several guys who haven't got their orders from UK - even though it's part of EU.

 

[Mystere3]

Out of curiosity why not??

Less effective and more sides, far more hepatotoxicity.

IME tbol is about equivalent to epi in sides but more effective; anavar is slightly less effective as a mass gainer but better for strength and demonstrates far less sides.

 

[Lukef2000]

Don't be so sure.I'm from Scandinavia and I know several guys who haven't got their orders from UK - even though it's part of EU.

Wow i stand corrected I've always thought we had it the worst lol.

 

[Lukef2000]

Less effective and more sides, far more hepatotoxicity. IME tbol is about equivalent to epi in sides but more effective; anavar is slightly less effective as a mass gainer but better for strength and demonstrates far less sides.

Var is also quite expensive for the legit stuff and for most people Epi is a lot easier and legal to get a hold of. I'm a fan of both and I think they both have their place.

 

[caley.garot]

Guys I'm looking for a few info so I can I ask my source for the right stuff.

 

[ben_443]

Halotestin?

 

[caley.garot]

I was just reading about it.an article by the anabolic doc.it is said to be very good but hard to find.ill drop a line to my source and ask

 

[caley.garot]

1- 10 Test Enth 500mg
/w1-8TrenAce 300m
/w1-4Dianabol25mg/d - 30 mg/d
Pct with Nolvadex 40mg/d to 20mg/d
Finally halo is not attainable
Any ideas?

 

[caley.garot]

MON *t-p 1 anav 40mg, clen , arim 0.5mg, nolv 10mg, milk 1(crea 1gr+bcaa 2 tabs,xcore,Ω3,joint)

tue * *nolv 10,anav 40mg, milk 1(,multivitamins,Ω3,joint)

WEN *t-p 1 anav 40mg, clen , arim 0.5, nolv 10mg(crea 1gr+bcaa 2tabs,multivitamins,Ω3,joint)

thurs *nolv 10,mganav 40mg, milk 1(,multivitamins,Ω3,joint)

fri * * *nolv 10mg,anav 4, milk 1(,multivitamins,Ω3,joint)

SAT **t-p 100mg, anav 40mg, clen, arim 0.5mg, nolv 10mg(crea 1gr+bcaa 2
Tabs,multivitamins,Ω3,joint)


That's the cycle I planned all help and suggestions are welcomed

 

[caley.garot]

Anyone?