First PH Cycle! HAVOC
- 07-24-2013, 12:29 AM
Now then back to the thread OP you have cycle assist which has milk thistle some people say that taking that during cycle will decrease the effectiveness of pro hormones. What is your take and how many hours apart do you space out the cycle assist from havoc? I've read 4 hours minimum and also milk thistles half life is 6 hours or so. I'd probably take my cycle support before bed to be safe.
- 07-24-2013, 05:58 AM
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07-24-2013, 08:15 PM
No difference in sides, major strength increase. I would get a pump just lifting a case of oil at work lol. Didn't get that at 40. Granted most say you don't fully notice it till week three but I felt it around day 12. Back pumps on deads and squats were my only real side. Did forget my cissus towards the end and noticed a bit of joint issues but nothing horrible.
Again everyone is different. I'm also on TRT so I had a test base and no need for PCT.
07-24-2013, 09:02 PM
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07-24-2013, 11:08 PM
You could try forma or erase if you want. Adex, aramosin would be better IMO. Like I said everyone is different.
07-29-2013, 02:59 AM
So I'm wrapping up my cycle and I am pleased with the gains. I put on 10-15 lbs of lean muscle and my strength went way up. The next step is obviously PCT. Is it okay to take my clomid, daa, and erase all at once? Also, how many DAA capsules should I take?
07-29-2013, 04:57 AM
07-29-2013, 11:34 PM
I'm just wrapping up my first week of PCT and I have had zero side effects. I feel just like I did before the cycle. I'm using liquid Torem which tastes terrible btw. I have lost a couple pounds so far.
08-31-2013, 11:45 AM
Pct has been over for about two weeks now. My libido is back full swing and the boys are their normal size. I'm back down to 210lbs from my cycle high of 217-218. I started at 204. I'm happy with the results because I kept the majority of my strength. Will probably run another cycle this winter.
08-31-2013, 02:04 PM
Any ideas why you lost weight during pct. I'm 2.5 or so weeks in and up 10 lbs. already I think I'm going to run 6 weeks total if gains keep going last week ramp up to 40mg. PCT for me will be whey protein, creatine mono, daa @ 3 grams day, erase starting 3rd week and nolva 20/20/10/10. Preworkout will be Hemo Rage with 1,3dymethalanine.
08-31-2013, 07:57 PM
Probably glycogen and water weight... and my diet has been very sloppy due to work and a new baby (no time). I rarely hear of anyone keeping all their weight.. although I'm sure its possible if diet and training are on point.
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