My M1T cycle
- 12-20-2004, 08:07 PM
My M1T cycle
This is a basic cycle, 10mg M1T ED for 4 weeks, followed by 4 weeks of nolva, 40/40/20/20 mg ED. This is my first PH cycle. My stats are:
age: 22
height: 6'
weight: 208
bf: 8-10% range
I'd like to consider myself an ecto overall, so if any ecto's out there are pondering an M1T cycle, hopefully my thread will be of some use. I'm using Omega Sports brand M1T. My first pill was taken today. My workout is posted below, along with the previous week's numbers for easy comparison.
EDIT: Oh yea, I am prone to MPB, so here is my hairloss prevention stack:
nizoral 2% EOD
minox 5% 2x ED
spiro 5% 2x ED
az. acid 5% 2x ED
finasteride 1.25 mg ED
If I still lose hair then I don't think I'll ever try another PH again. Unless I end up losing my hair anyway, in which case it won't matter anymore...
WORKOUT
Seated Military Press: 4x165, 2x165
DB Side Raises: 8x25, 8x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 8x40
Shrugs: 6x275, 6x280, 6x280
Last Week's Numbers:
Military Press: 6x160, 5x165
DB Side Raises: 8x25, 7x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 8x40
Shrugs: 6x275, 6x275, 6x275
Military press was a disaster. On the first set, I just didn't have enough energy to complete more than 4 reps. On the second set, 2nd rep, I hit the rack with the bar on the way down, which totally screwed everything up and I had to quit. I blame the poor strength on military press on the swimming I did last night. It really fatigued my arms, and I guess they didn't quite recover enough for a shoulder workout. Guess I won't be swimming like that again for awhile.
I'm not feeling anything at all from the M1T yet, but then again it's only been 1 day. I don't really expect to see or feel any different until next week at the earliest, based on what I've been reading. - 12-21-2004, 08:07 PM
TUESDAY: Legs
Squats: 6x280, 6x280, 4x280
BB Lunges: 6x135/leg, 6x135/leg
Ham Curls: 8x110, 7x125, 6x125
Last Week's Numbers:
Squats: 6x275, 6x275, 6x275
BB Lunges: 6x135/leg, 6x135/leg
Squats were up today, but nothing that can't be attributed to natural gains. I need to stop worrying about the M1T and just give it some time. I might have been able to go heavier on lunges, but I'm trying to play it safe with those. One wrong move could result in a bad ankle injury. I also did some ham curls, but I am at a different gym and the machines are entirely different, so the weights aren't really comparable. I just did a few sets with a challenging weight. Weight this morning was 209, up 1 pound from yesterday, which could be attributed to any number of factors besides the M1T. Yes, I'm a skeptic when it comes to PH's. -
- 12-22-2004, 08:04 AM
Don't be afraid to up the dosage a bit if you're not responding. At your body weight you could do 15 to 20mgs, though I would try to keep it as low as possible. If you don't respond to the 10, go for the 15. It makes all the difference for some people.
- 12-22-2004, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by CDB
- 12-22-2004, 01:03 PM
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- 12-22-2004, 01:49 PM
Keep it at ten. M1t is not a ph it's a highly effective steroid, if you don't see any type of weight increase, or strength increase than you may just be a non-responder. 10mgs is plenty, my last m1t cycle I weighed 290, and 10mgs was more than enough for me to grow. You can't expect to honestly see anything after one day. One week is not a good gauge either, your weight should increase some, but most including myself saw significant strength gains in the second week, so give it time.
- 12-22-2004, 08:33 PM
WEDNESDAY - Back/Bis
Deadlift: 6x320, 6x325
Barbell Rows: 6x185, 6x185
Pullups: 8xBW, 6xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 4x120
DB Curls: 6x55, 6x60
Last Weeks Numbers:
Deadlift: 6x315, 6x320
Barbell Rows: 6x185, 5x185
Pullups: 8xBW, 6xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 4x120
DB Curls: 6x55, 5x60
My low back felt very uncomfortable the entire workout, starting with my first warmup set of deads. I don't really know how to describe it, it's not really pain, but just very uncomfortable. I had to rest a long time between some warmup sets. On the other hand, I saw some nice increases in every lift except barbell curls, but even those felt easier than last week, I just didn't have enough left to get any extra reps. Also barbell rows don't look much more impressive than last week, but my form was a lot better. Weight this morning was 212. Hmm, a 3 lb increase from yesterday morning. Could be due to the M1T, then again I did eat a really late meal last night, so maybe it was that. - 12-23-2004, 09:52 AM
people commonly report back pain while on m1t, so this feeling your getting might become full blown pain.
- 12-23-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by UNDERTAKER
- 12-23-2004, 08:08 PM
THURSDAY: Chest/Tris
Bench: 6x245, 5x250
Incline: 6x205, 4x210
Dips: 8xBW+55, 6xBW+60
Close Grip Bench: 6x185, 4x190
Tri Cable: 8x140, 7x145
Last Week's Numbers:
Bench: 6x245, 4x250
Incline: 6x200, 5x205
Dips: 8xBW+55, 7xBW+55
Tri Cable not comparable because the machines are different
Some nice strength increases today, but again, nothing that couldn't be attributed to normal progression. The only odd thing is that I was 215 when I woke up today. The M1T is definitely doing something. Also the boys have shrunk already, which bothers me just a little bit, even though I know they will return after I run PCT... - 12-24-2004, 03:49 PM
FRIDAY: Abs/Calves
Seated Calf Raises: 8x4 plates+35, 7x4 plates+35, 7x4 plates+35, 6x4 plates+35
Cable Crunches: 12x80, 12x80, 12x80
Swiss Ball Crunches: 11x25, 8x25
Last week's numbers not posted because the equipment was different. Well I guess the swiss ball crunches are the same, but they actually went down this week, hmmm...
Today I weighed 217, this is crazy. I've gained 9 lbs in 5 days. I know it's probably all water, but I don't look bloated or anything. I'm just wondering why there have been no big strength increases. Hopefully next week... - 12-25-2004, 10:27 AM
- 12-26-2004, 11:11 AM
- 12-27-2004, 07:30 PM
Monday: Shoulders/Traps
Seated Military Press: 5x165, 3x165
DB Side Raises: 8x25, 8x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 6x45
Shrugs: 6x280, 6x280, 6x280
Last Week's Numbers:
Monday: Shoulders/Traps
Seated Military Press: 4x165, 2x165
DB Side Raises: 8x25, 8x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 8x40
Shrugs: 6x275, 6x280, 6x280
I've had it with the military press at this gym I'm at. They don't have a dedicated military press chair like my old gym did, so I was using the power rack plus a chair to do it. The only problem is that this setup is really awkward because the power rack is angled (hard to explain in words) which makes me waste a lot more energy balancing the weight than I did at my school's gym. I think I will do DB shoulders next week.
Weight this morning was 221.5. So I have gained 12.5 lbs in a week from the M1T, but no strength. Hmm, maybe I'll bump it up to 20mg ED if I see no significant gains tomorrow on leg day.
Libido was somewhat less than it was a couple days ago, but still up. I had some lethargy today but I can't say for sure it was from the M1T. - 12-27-2004, 09:04 PM
It's been so hard to eat dinner since I started this. I eat dinner about 1hr after my workout, and I have no appetite whatsoever, and today I felt really nauseous during dinner and almost threw up. Not good...
I normally don't have a huge appetite after I workout anyway, but this has been even worse. - 12-28-2004, 07:58 PM
TUESDAY: Legs
Squat: 6x280, 6x280, 6x280
Some leg press sets and some ham curl sets, I wasn't strictly keeping track of the weight though
Last Week's Numbers:
Squat: 6x280, 6x280, 4x280
Squats felt good, but I developed a very uncomfortable feeling in my low back after my last set and had to rest a long time before attempting leg press. I felt very lethargic before the workout, and still have yet to experience a big strength boost from the M1T. I think I will start taking my M1T right before bed, maybe that way I can sleep through the lethargic feeling. Weight this morning was 219. I'm still debating whether or not to increase the dosage to 20mg ED since I still have yet to experience a big strength gain. - 12-29-2004, 08:05 PM
WEDNESDAY: Back/Bis
Deadlift: 6x330, 6x335, 6x340
Barbell Rows: 6x185, 6x190
Pullups: 8xBW, 9xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 4.5x120 (almost had that 5th one...)
DB Curls: 6x55, 6x60
Last Week's Numbers:
Deadlift: 6x320, 6x325
Barbell Rows: 6x185, 6x185
Pullups: 8xBW, 6xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 4x120
DB Curls: 6x55, 6x60
I made some good progress on deads, but whenever I do them, my lower back starts feeling extremely tight, which is very uncomfortable. It's not pain, it just feels like right along my waist, everything is extremely tight, like I need to be streched out on a rack or something. If I wait about 5 minutes without lifting, it goes away completely. It's also really tight when I first wake up, but after taking a hot shower and stretching it a bit it feels better. I'm not sure what's going on. Overall this workout took way too long because of me waiting around between lifts for this feeling to go away. Good progress on BB rows too, I probably could've gone heavier, but didn't want to sacrifice form. I almost had a 5th rep on barbell curls at 120, but just couldn't quite get it. 6x60 with DB curls didn't feel too bad though, I probably could've gotten 4x65. Pullups felt pretty good today too, and I have made good progress on those, considering I now weigh 219. Maybe these gains are due to the M1T. Either they are very good natural gains or very weak M1T gains. Weight this morning was 219. - 12-30-2004, 08:24 PM
THURSDAY: Chest/Tris
BB Bench: 6x245, 6x250
BB Incline: 6x205, 6x210
Dips: 8x220+55, 8x220+60
Close Grip Bench: 6x185, 6x190
Tri Cable Pressdown: 8x145, 8x150
Last Week's Numbers:
Bench: 6x245, 5x250
Incline: 6x205, 4x210
Dips: 8xBW+55, 6xBW+60
Close Grip Bench: 6x185, 4x190
Tri Cable: 8x140, 7x145
Today was a really good workout. I definitely felt stronger on all lifts. I could've gone a little heavier on bench and incline, but I do a low volume routine and didn't want to add more sets just to see how high I could go. Overall a good workout. Again, it's either really good natural gains, or somewhat weak M1T gains (from what I've read). I'm still debating whether or not to increase to 20mg ED. Also I'm having really annoying pains in my forearms right along the bone. I call them forearm shin splints and have got them before. Before they were only bothering me on BB curls, but now they hurt on bench, incline, and dips as well. Every other time they have gone away on their own and I haven't had to stop training or anything, but they sure are annoying. My back also felt somewhat uncomfortable after this workout, just really tight like yesterday. Weight was 220.
Also yesterday PWO I felt extremely tired and had to lay down for awhile. My appetite also completely disappears until about 1-2 hrs PWO. - 12-31-2004, 03:58 AM
Argh, just about threw up my dinner again tonight. Its weird, the feeling comes out of nowhere, lasts a few minutes, then goes away completely.
- 12-31-2004, 05:31 PM
FRIDAY: Abs/Calves
Seated Calf Raises: 8x4 plates+35, 8x4 plates+35, 7x4 plates+35, 6x4 plates+35
Cable Crunches: 12x80, 12x80, 12x85
Machine Crunches: 12x60, 11x60, 11x60
Last Week's Numbers:
Seated Calf Raises: 8x4 plates+35, 7x4 plates+35, 7x4 plates+35, 6x4 plates+35
Cable Crunches: 12x80, 12x80, 12x80
Machine crunches not included because I substituted them for Swiss Ball crunches this week.
This workout was OK, no big strength increases or anything. I decided to up the M1T to 20mg ED. If I get bad sides I'll back down to 10mg. I probably won't be doing another cycle for quite awhile so I want to make the most of this one. - 01-01-2005, 03:43 PM
Weight today was 219. Last night I had some slight low back cramps like I've heard everyone talking about. Apparently the pain in my back I described earlier was not at all related to the M1T, as what I felt last night was definitely a cramp and was not even in the same spot as the pain I described earlier. By morning the cramps were completely gone and I am still taking 20mg ED.
- 01-03-2005, 08:38 PM
Monday: Shoulders/Traps
DB Military: 6x70, 6x70
DB Side Raises: 8x30, 8x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 8x45
Shrugs: 6x280, 6x280, 6x280
Last Week's Numbers:
Seated Military Press: 5x165, 3x165
DB Side Raises: 8x25, 8x30
Rear Delt Raises: 8x40, 6x45
Shrugs: 6x280, 6x280, 6x280
Today my meals got kind of messed up, I ate the same food and the same quantities but the spacing and timing was all messed up because of other crap that was going on today that I forgot to prepare for. I tried DB military press today because I was sick of the setup I was using to try and do BB military. I probably could've gone up to 75's for the 2nd set, but I wouldn't have been able to get 6 at that weight. I haven't done DB military since last summer, so it's hard to say how this compares to any previous workout. It didn't feel too good though, so I'm guessing it's not much of an improvement. There was a little improvement on the other DB shoulder moves, and no improvement on shrugs. Still taking 20 mg M1T ED. I think I wasted my money on this stuff. - 01-05-2005, 11:54 AM
TUESDAY: Legs
Squat: 6x280 (x3)
Leg Press: 6x5plates, 6x5plates+25, 6x5plates+35
Ham Curl Machine: 8x175, 8x180
I probably could've gone up to 285 on squats for all 3 sets, but I didn't want to compromise my form, so I stayed at 280 but went a little deeper than usual. Next week I will probably go up to 285. That uncomfortable feeling in my back after doing the squats (not cramping due to the M1T) is getting annoying, and forces me to rest a long time before going to leg press. Appetite was totally gone today, making it extremely difficult to eat. Weight this morning was 221.5. - 01-05-2005, 01:33 PM
Just my feedback because you seem a little mad at the M1T...
I gained about 11 pounds in 30 days with M1T and my strength went up a total of.......Nothing. I did notice hugeeee pumps though when I was hitting the weight. I was sleeping like 11-12 hours a day which was ****. My appetite was ****. My final conclusion is that what your paying for is what your getting. Better off doing a gear cycle. Atleast from what I hear, people feel good running dbol with other stuff...not ****ty like we felt on M1t.... - 01-05-2005, 07:48 PM
WEDNESDAY: Back/Bis
Deadlift: No Deads today, my back just didn't feel up to it
Barbell Rows: 6x190, 6x195, 6x200
Pullups: 8xBW, 9xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 7x120
DB Curls: 6x60, 5x65
Last Week's Numbers:
Deadlift: 6x330, 6x335, 6x340
Barbell Rows: 6x185, 6x190
Pullups: 8xBW, 9xBW
Barbell Curls: 6x115, 4.5x120 (almost had that 5th one...)
DB Curls: 6x55, 6x60
I woke up this morning and my lower back felt extremely tight. By workout time this afternoon it didn't feel a whole lot looser, so I decided to skip deads. It's the first time I've ever had to skip deads since I started doing them a little over a year ago. I hope this doesn't turn into a serious injury. I need to start stretching my lower back regularly. The good news is that I made great progress on all other lifts, and I don't think it was just because I skipped deads, either. Deads work mainly my legs, low back, and traps, so I don't think skipping them would have such an effect on my lats and biceps. In other news my appetite is still at zero, I have some very slight acne on my upper chest/shoulder, and I seem to have been more irritable lately. Could be due to the M1T, or maybe the fact that I am home on break and have absolutely nothing to do during the day, which is driving me crazy. Weight this morning was 224.
EDIT: Also had a slight headache today.
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