MY NEW STACK!!! SD+EPI...HARD STUFF

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  1. excuse me I meant to say that's pretty damn crazy that you did not perform a PCT and from here on out, after every cycle, do yourself a favor and do a proper 4 week PCT.
    Last edited by SinX; 02-18-2013 at 09:01 PM. Reason: long day and night
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by SinX View Post

    1.To eliminate some of the sides on SD would be a test base product that we highly suggest (dermacrine/transderm). St johns wort helps lethargy; as mentioned take 2x to 3x the recommended doses. Vit C start with 3g and slowly work your way down and that will help with stress. Also be sure to keep active, even on non workout days and that will help out as well. B12 will give ya energy and will help out with your mood as well.


    2.If you're going to run SD solo, you're doses look fine at 20/30/30/30, just listen to your body, if it gets too intense don't be afraid to drop it back a bit. Make sure you space your SD doses and cycle assist, multi and other supps, by at the very minimum 4 hours; however, you can take fish oil with your sd; I wouldn't go past 4 weeks of SD either.
    1. ok i can get some st johns wort, by it find difficult to find dermacrine here in spain. What about TITANIUM XL (athletix)? or TESTABOLAN V2.
    2. So how i have to take the sd? 1 with breakfast and 1with preworkou meal? when i take all the other supps? I don't know this point, which is the reason?

    3. AND WHAT THE PCT LOOK LIKE (DOSAGES PER DAY TAMOXI, DAA, ETC)

    thx again
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    1. ok i can get some st johns wort, by it find difficult to find dermacrine here in spain. What about TITANIUM XL (athletix)? or TESTABOLAN V2.
    2. So how i have to take the sd? 1 with breakfast and 1with preworkou meal? when i take all the other supps? I don't know this point, which is the reason?

    thx again
    I don't think you'll find those in stores, but there's a few sites you can get them online and I'm sure they ship internationally. Those two other products you mentioned are just test boosters; that's something I would add into your PCT on top of what you have already, I think the Titanium would be better between the two, but if you could order online I'd get something else.

    I took my first dose an hour or so before working out with a meal, and then my other dose again after eating dinner. However, once you start upping your doses, take the larger dose before your workout. Just be cautious after week 3, most call it there, but if you really want to, just make you're taking in more cycle supps for liver, cholesterol and BP.

    This is what I've done, for example:

    breakfast -- take sd + fish oil
    w/o
    lunch -- take cycle assits + other supps
    supper -- take sd + fish oil
    later dinner -- take cycle assits + other supps

    Be sure to throw in a good amount of healthy snacks and other small meals throughout the day to build more muscle and faster recovery. Space apart 4 hours from SD and cycle assist, because there are certain properties that fight each other causing one to be less effective than the other; when in practicality you want everything working to it's fullest extent.
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  4. now depending on your schedule it can be worked around differently
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  5. ok...the only problem that i see is getting this test base, this dermacrine is impossible to find here in spain. International shippings are not an option because i need this product now. I need alternatives.
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  6. gimme a few secs, I got a few things coming at ya...
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  7. PM sent, just have to do a bit of research; plus I have friends over there in the UK, The Dam and depending on where you are Madrid and Malaga; I used to live all around those areas a long time ago and I miss it over there, some great experiences from partying living and working there. Great times, beautiful woman great weather, get swole and tear it up fam. Hala Madrid! Hahah sorry couldn't resist, I'm also a huge CFC fan; but as long as you're not barca we're all good hahahah I'm jus messin arround.

    Get your hands on all that stuff we we're telling ya about and you'll be golden; but if you want to get things right now, right now look into DHEA, resveratrol, saw palmetto; but I'd go with the topicals and make it easier. Get dermacrine, formasurge, and a good cycle support as well as either pct support/another test booster.
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  8. gettin me all antsy over here wanting to end my sarms cycle and start my ph + ds again hahah
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  9. ok perfect then, how much of that dermacrine I need? one or two bottles? which is the dosage? Has it any side?

  10. 1 bottle is plenty enough at 130 servings; depending on your weight will determine how many pumps you will use. Some will even use less than directed and still get good results with that. You'll get a good 5 weeks if you use it between 4-5 pumps a day; but depending on how you react to it, you may need less. You'll get some acne [face, shoulders, back] maybe slightly or a little bit more. After a certain point, you'll get a bit of water retention as your test goes up so will your E, but it won't go up as much and obviously, you still want a bit of that in your body. Other than that, it'll keep you feeling good while on sd, keep your libido up, focused, and after the first few days it'll be easier to sleep and recover quicker.
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  11. I might have the servings off, but you should be good.
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  12. "The biggest effect that I noticed, however, along with lessened side effects, is that I did not get the testicular ache or the drop in libido or any other sides of shutdown or restart. Sure my libido was decreased slightly, but I think that this product may have prevented complete shutdown, which has made everything return to normal very very quickly. Also, I barely gained any weight on this cycle, around 4 lbs. Since PCT, I have put on another 5-6 pounds (probably from eating over maintenance to keep gains). This showed me that the Dermacrine was indeed effective at keeping weight off and I will consider this product whenever I am on a cut or recomp to maximize benefits."

    what does it mean by not putting weight? I supose putting weight is a good thing!!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    "The biggest effect that I noticed, however, along with lessened side effects, is that I did not get the testicular ache or the drop in libido or any other sides of shutdown or restart. Sure my libido was decreased slightly, but I think that this product may have prevented complete shutdown, which has made everything return to normal very very quickly. Also, I barely gained any weight on this cycle, around 4 lbs. Since PCT, I have put on another 5-6 pounds (probably from eating over maintenance to keep gains). This showed me that the Dermacrine was indeed effective at keeping weight off and I will consider this product whenever I am on a cut or recomp to maximize benefits."

    what does it mean by not putting weight? I supose putting weight is a good thing!!

    That's just one person's review and there's a lot of factors not present, but to put on an extra 5-6 pounds in PCT is really good on top of cycle gains. But if you upped your calories to a certain point you'll gain weight; but at some point through your PCT you'll lose water retention from a cycle and glycogen storage; which sd is notorious for. We don't know what cycle he ran on top of that nor what his diet was; he wasn't really specific with numbers or anything other than saying eating over maintenance. If you hit 3-4k calories and it's not loaded with tonnes of fat, sugar and sodium you'll be alright. Also remember, everyone is different; one will have different results from others without a doubt, way too many different variables to factor in.
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  14. ok but dermacrine does not limit the capacities of sd I supose. Today i'll go to de doc to apply for a blood test. Hope everything s fine

  15. I need help wiht the pct, what it'll be like? tamoxifen, daa,6bromo...at which doses x week?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    ok but dermacrine does not limit the capacities of sd I supose. Today i'll go to de doc to apply for a blood test. Hope everything s fine
    No, it will not limit the capacities at all; if anything derma is an enhancement to your cycle.



    Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    I need help wiht the pct, what it'll be like? tamoxifen, daa,6bromo...at which doses x week?
    Tamox could be ran 20 all the way through for four weeks or even 40/40/20/20; friends have done 20/20/10/10 after certain cycles, but if someone wants to chime in here I think you can't go wrong with the 20 all the way through or the 40 drop.

    DAA 3g before workout for no more than 6-8 weeks

    The 6 Bromo, try not to go past 50mg during PCT.

    Also on that same site ya looked, pick up a bottle of an on cycle protection (organ shield/protection), get Formasurge, a good Support Cycle and get either a great test booster or PCT assist and you should be golden.
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  17. Also get a joint supp and a multivitamin as well, you could get those in your local stores; might be closing soon, but tomorrow or so get something with glucosamine chondroitin and that'll help out with dry/achy joints and ligaments.
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  18. When you get a moment please write here what you purchased or what you're considering, my posts above will have you covered; I just want to make sure that everything is lined up for ya.
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  19. OK. So that's what i got at the moment:
    -whey
    -bcaas+glutamine
    -seriouss mass(not as a gainer, only for some carbs in the pwo shake)
    -multivitamin: got animal pak and multipro
    -vitamin c
    -fish oil (omega 3) 300caps-
    1 bottle of DAA
    -1 bottle of p5p
    -2 bottles of hawthorn berry
    -1 bottle of taurine
    -1 bottle glucosamine chorindrine
    -liv52
    -1 bottle of 6 bromo
    -1bottle of pro sd
    -1bottle of potassium

    ...i think that's all...I gotta get some tamoxifen

    .Ok i'll buy the cycle suport but i think it's not really necessary with all that stack. The test booster...daa by itself works great, i dont think i need more, but we can talk about it, that's something that i can get nearby if i need it.I got blood test next week and the results by the first week of march so i'll wait till that day and if everything it's fine i'll start.how do ya see it?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    OK. So that's what i got at the moment:
    -whey
    -bcaas+glutamine
    -seriouss mass(not as a gainer, only for some carbs in the pwo shake)
    -multivitamin: got animal pak and multipro
    -vitamin c
    -fish oil (omega 3) 300caps-
    1 bottle of DAA
    -1 bottle of p5p
    -2 bottles of hawthorn berry
    -1 bottle of taurine
    -1 bottle glucosamine chorindrine
    -liv52
    -1 bottle of 6 bromo
    -1bottle of pro sd
    -1bottle of potassium

    ...i think that's all...I gotta get some tamoxifen

    .Ok i'll buy the cycle suport but i think it's not really necessary with all that stack. The test booster...daa by itself works great, i dont think i need more, but we can talk about it, that's something that i can get nearby if i need it.I got blood test next week and the results by the first week of march so i'll wait till that day and if everything it's fine i'll start.how do ya see it?
    Well, if you haven't gotten your nolva yet, if you could get it, I would have to recommend using Torem instead. You will feel much better on Torem rather than Nolva and it's a lot less toxic for your liver; use that in conjunction with formasurge + DAA and you're good to go. I used that during my helladrol and beastdrol stack and on top of proper supps and a lot during pct; the only thing that came back bad was a bit of high cholesterol. This is why I'm strongly suggesting to you to get a few more items, because sd alone is harsh enough.

    Yes, please buy the cycle support it will help you out a lot and let me know which ones you are looking at and we can look at the ingredients. If anything, you might have to go to your drugstore and get maybe a couple more things; better safe than sorry and no matter what anyone tells you superdrol is a steroid, do it right and you will have a great cycle. Do your pct right and proper, and you will recover. The taurine will cover you from pumps, take 3-5g's of that pre-workout. Take the vitamin c 500mg to around 2k on cycle and when you're in PCT boost it up to 3k the first 3 weeks then slowly cut down on the last week from 3k to 2k to 1k to 500 then stop.

    The test booster (on top of pct assist) + DAA + formasurge (AI) will work great together during pct on top of your serm. Use that formasurge from the first day of your PCT and then use it 2 weeks after the last day of your PCT to prevent E rebound; which may or may not occur. They claim you won't get gyno, but I say bull-ish to that, because I've read and heard of some ppl catching that, so keep an eye on bloating, your emotions, libidio and in that case, you use a few pumps of forma; hopefully it won't happen, but it's something to keep an eye out for.

    Other than that I think you're just about set; however, doing more research and reading more when you have free time will help you a lot during and after your cycle as well.
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  21. ok thank you very much!! but i def go with the nolvadex because it's a lot easier to get here in spain and I think it's good enough.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    ok thank you very much!! but i def go with the nolvadex because it's a lot easier to get here in spain and I think it's good enough.
    cheers for the reps and no worries bro that's what we're here and this is prob one of the best forums I've looked and been around to get info and yeah you'll definitely be good to go with nolva.
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  23. Hey guys, i'm thinking if it would be nicer to get 2 bottles of stano and runnit 1 week before de pro sd like:600/600/800/800/800 stanomeanwhile the pro sd will: 0/20/20/30/30it's a lot easier to get stano than dermacrine here. It will help with the libido too? or just with the lethargy...may I let this stuff apart and go for the dermacrine(which is more expensive btw)?. Let me know fellas. thx!!

  24. start it a week after or at same time
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  25. Well, another use pointed out for the stano to really shine you'll need a bit more; although I think those doses are good. Definitely as hvac mentioned, start it at the same time or a week after. This will help with your libido and also with lethargy; still not a test base, but will have rather similar positive effects, ya know.

    Can't go wrong with the derma in my opinion and if you stack all that together then that's even more beast; however, it's up to you, just whatever you plan on doing throw it on here and we'll help ya out. Nothing wrong with changing your mind here and there [we all do it, and I'm in the middle of going back and forth now], however, at one point get everything ready to go so you won't have to run looking at diff supps/ diff meal outlines n regiments and etc.

    The only thing you should pre-load before your SD, is your hawthrone berry and get milk thistle. If you get a cycle assist, pre-load it 2 weeks before then; some will say only a week, but rather safe than sorry. This is also very subjective, but I also preloaded my transderm (in your case dermacrine) 2 weeks prior to starting my cycle, some will say do and others don't.
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