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MY NEW STACK!!! SD+EPI...HARD STUFF

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    SinX I appreciate your help. Well so i've already told you what i got and obviusly i can purchase another things, but i'm from Spain. I want to run the SD solo because i will kept the epi for my next cycle. But if you think that is a good idea i can stacked it with the test thing that you've said. I'm already preloading the cycle with the hawthorn berry and omega3 so i want to start as quick as possible. My idea is to run the sd like 20/20/30/30 or 20/30/30/30 because two years ago i ran epol at 2 caps x day. I need help about what stack to the sd in odds to fight the lethargy, libido etc, and which will be a proper pct (remember all the products that i already have). Thank you again!!



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    i want to add, i never did a proper pct in my previous cycles and i never experiences any loss of libido, sides...had run epol 2 caps x day which is 30mg sd +60 tren ed during 4 weeks followed by 5w of recycle and i was perfect. The same with the epistane. Now i saw hoy crazy i was but i trust the wrong people.

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    no worries familia I got you; gimme a few mins please, I'm helping my girl move a few things around the place and when I'm done helpin her I'll read and answer everything ya wrote
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    ok!! waiting for your answer, let see if someone more joins us!

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    On top of the Hawthrone Berry, make sure you're preloading Milk Thistle as well, very important. It's really up to you, if you want to stack just make sure you're extra covered with protection; however, if you plan to save tren+epi and use that at a different time, that's also a good idea. I'll outline a couple of things for ya.

    To eliminate some of the sides on SD would be a test base product that we highly suggest (dermacrine/transderm). St johns wort helps lethargy; as mentioned take 2x to 3x the recommended doses. Vit C start with 3g and slowly work your way down and that will help with stress. Also be sure to keep active, even on non workout days and that will help out as well. B12 will give ya energy and will help out with your mood as well.

    Get an organ shield/cycle assist + a good multi like Orange Triad (this will have joint supplement ingredients as well) or Vital Core (this will have great liver antioxidants and protection); since you already have liv 52, I'd still suggest vitcal core and get a joint supp such as forged joint repair or something similar to this (amazon, drugstore, etc). Even though it's been a couple of years, I'd still suggest keeping an eye on your BP and cholesterol; machine and bloodwork. Be sure to drink at least 1.5-2gallons of water a day and of course eat cleanly as possible. What's your diet lookin like if you don't mind me asking.

    If you're going to run SD solo, you're doses look fine at 20/30/30/30, just listen to your body, if it gets too intense don't be afraid to drop it back a bit. Make sure you space your SD doses and cycle assist, multi and other supps, by at the very minimum 4 hours; however, you can take fish oil with your sd; I wouldn't go past 4 weeks of SD either.

    I will say that's pretty damn crazy your last cycle with a proper pct and I trust you've done some bloodwork or that you plan on doing some bloodwork sometime in the future; however, next time don't trust the wrong ppl and don't feel embarrassed to ask anything that's on your mind; because if it's in your body fand you're getting the wrong advice then doing the wrong thing, that's gonna lead to a lotta trouble. However, this time do a proper pct for 4 weeks, you're pretty much covered in your PCT. To be on the safe side, I'd throw in one more test booster like unleashed/forged pct/testopro and looks like you'll pretty much be covered. Also, to prevent certain other sides get in a good source of B6/B12.

    I think you're just about there, take those things into consideration and let us know what you plan on doing bro. If you have any more questions or need more explanation on certain things, type it in and we'll sort ya out.
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    excuse me I meant to say that's pretty damn crazy that you did not perform a PCT and from here on out, after every cycle, do yourself a favor and do a proper 4 week PCT.
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    Originally Posted by SinX View Post

    1.To eliminate some of the sides on SD would be a test base product that we highly suggest (dermacrine/transderm). St johns wort helps lethargy; as mentioned take 2x to 3x the recommended doses. Vit C start with 3g and slowly work your way down and that will help with stress. Also be sure to keep active, even on non workout days and that will help out as well. B12 will give ya energy and will help out with your mood as well.


    2.If you're going to run SD solo, you're doses look fine at 20/30/30/30, just listen to your body, if it gets too intense don't be afraid to drop it back a bit. Make sure you space your SD doses and cycle assist, multi and other supps, by at the very minimum 4 hours; however, you can take fish oil with your sd; I wouldn't go past 4 weeks of SD either.
    1. ok i can get some st johns wort, by it find difficult to find dermacrine here in spain. What about TITANIUM XL (athletix)? or TESTABOLAN V2.
    2. So how i have to take the sd? 1 with breakfast and 1with preworkou meal? when i take all the other supps? I don't know this point, which is the reason?

    3. AND WHAT THE PCT LOOK LIKE (DOSAGES PER DAY TAMOXI, DAA, ETC)

    thx again

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    Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    1. ok i can get some st johns wort, by it find difficult to find dermacrine here in spain. What about TITANIUM XL (athletix)? or TESTABOLAN V2.
    2. So how i have to take the sd? 1 with breakfast and 1with preworkou meal? when i take all the other supps? I don't know this point, which is the reason?

    thx again
    I don't think you'll find those in stores, but there's a few sites you can get them online and I'm sure they ship internationally. Those two other products you mentioned are just test boosters; that's something I would add into your PCT on top of what you have already, I think the Titanium would be better between the two, but if you could order online I'd get something else.

    I took my first dose an hour or so before working out with a meal, and then my other dose again after eating dinner. However, once you start upping your doses, take the larger dose before your workout. Just be cautious after week 3, most call it there, but if you really want to, just make you're taking in more cycle supps for liver, cholesterol and BP.

    This is what I've done, for example:

    breakfast -- take sd + fish oil
    w/o
    lunch -- take cycle assits + other supps
    supper -- take sd + fish oil
    later dinner -- take cycle assits + other supps

    Be sure to throw in a good amount of healthy snacks and other small meals throughout the day to build more muscle and faster recovery. Space apart 4 hours from SD and cycle assist, because there are certain properties that fight each other causing one to be less effective than the other; when in practicality you want everything working to it's fullest extent.
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    now depending on your schedule it can be worked around differently
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    ok...the only problem that i see is getting this test base, this dermacrine is impossible to find here in spain. International shippings are not an option because i need this product now. I need alternatives.

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    PM sent, just have to do a bit of research; plus I have friends over there in the UK, The Dam and depending on where you are Madrid and Malaga; I used to live all around those areas a long time ago and I miss it over there, some great experiences from partying living and working there. Great times, beautiful woman great weather, get swole and tear it up fam. Hala Madrid! Hahah sorry couldn't resist, I'm also a huge CFC fan; but as long as you're not barca we're all good hahahah I'm jus messin arround.

    Get your hands on all that stuff we we're telling ya about and you'll be golden; but if you want to get things right now, right now look into DHEA, resveratrol, saw palmetto; but I'd go with the topicals and make it easier. Get dermacrine, formasurge, and a good cycle support as well as either pct support/another test booster.
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    gettin me all antsy over here wanting to end my sarms cycle and start my ph + ds again hahah
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    ok perfect then, how much of that dermacrine I need? one or two bottles? which is the dosage? Has it any side?

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    1 bottle is plenty enough at 130 servings; depending on your weight will determine how many pumps you will use. Some will even use less than directed and still get good results with that. You'll get a good 5 weeks if you use it between 4-5 pumps a day; but depending on how you react to it, you may need less. You'll get some acne [face, shoulders, back] maybe slightly or a little bit more. After a certain point, you'll get a bit of water retention as your test goes up so will your E, but it won't go up as much and obviously, you still want a bit of that in your body. Other than that, it'll keep you feeling good while on sd, keep your libido up, focused, and after the first few days it'll be easier to sleep and recover quicker.
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    I might have the servings off, but you should be good.
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    "The biggest effect that I noticed, however, along with lessened side effects, is that I did not get the testicular ache or the drop in libido or any other sides of shutdown or restart. Sure my libido was decreased slightly, but I think that this product may have prevented complete shutdown, which has made everything return to normal very very quickly. Also, I barely gained any weight on this cycle, around 4 lbs. Since PCT, I have put on another 5-6 pounds (probably from eating over maintenance to keep gains). This showed me that the Dermacrine was indeed effective at keeping weight off and I will consider this product whenever I am on a cut or recomp to maximize benefits."

    what does it mean by not putting weight? I supose putting weight is a good thing!!

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    Originally Posted by Porrabolan View Post
    "The biggest effect that I noticed, however, along with lessened side effects, is that I did not get the testicular ache or the drop in libido or any other sides of shutdown or restart. Sure my libido was decreased slightly, but I think that this product may have prevented complete shutdown, which has made everything return to normal very very quickly. Also, I barely gained any weight on this cycle, around 4 lbs. Since PCT, I have put on another 5-6 pounds (probably from eating over maintenance to keep gains). This showed me that the Dermacrine was indeed effective at keeping weight off and I will consider this product whenever I am on a cut or recomp to maximize benefits."

    what does it mean by not putting weight? I supose putting weight is a good thing!!

    That's just one person's review and there's a lot of factors not present, but to put on an extra 5-6 pounds in PCT is really good on top of cycle gains. But if you upped your calories to a certain point you'll gain weight; but at some point through your PCT you'll lose water retention from a cycle and glycogen storage; which sd is notorious for. We don't know what cycle he ran on top of that nor what his diet was; he wasn't really specific with numbers or anything other than saying eating over maintenance. If you hit 3-4k calories and it's not loaded with tonnes of fat, sugar and sodium you'll be alright. Also remember, everyone is different; one will have different results from others without a doubt, way too many different variables to factor in.
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    ok but dermacrine does not limit the capacities of sd I supose. Today i'll go to de doc to apply for a blood test. Hope everything s fine

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    I need help wiht the pct, what it'll be like? tamoxifen, daa,6bromo...at which doses x week?

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