My 1-Test/4AD/MDHT/M4oht/T3 cycle...
- 01-08-2005, 09:12 PM
- 01-09-2005, 11:11 PM
Well, this marks the half way point of the cycle. Off day today, diet was pretty good. I think I am beginning to feel the T3, I have noticed that I am never cold now. Its not the point that I am sweating or anything, not uncomfortable but noticeable. Also for some reason my abs/obliques were soar from the hiit yesterday, legs feel fine though. Not noticing any other sides. I’ll get a weight measurement tomorrow, should be interesting 220lbs was the last measurement 4 days ago.
01-10-2005, 11:00 PM
01-10-2005, 11:07 PM
I weighed in at 219lb this morning. So, 4 days and down a 1lb. Worked back/bi's today, very slight strength increases on back, a little more noticeable on the bi's. Endurance was about the same as last week, but this workout felt harder. The T3 is defiantly kicking in, today I was sweating more than I normally do. I think it made it harder to get through the workout. A few times throughout the day I could kind of feel myself radiating heat. 75mcg is probably going to be the highest I go. Diet today was pretty good, cals were slightly low but other than that good. I wanted to get a hiit session in today, but just didn't have time.
01-11-2005, 11:37 PM
Worked chest/tris, this workout did not go so well. It felt like the strength was there, but I fatigued so quickly. Got that last rep that I couldn't last week on bench but that was pretty much the only positive today. I had to cut sets down and weights. The T3 seems to just suck the energy right out of me. All day today I have been warm, sometimes uncomfortably warm and tired. Didn't have time to get in any hiit, but I did do a lot of walking around campus today trying to get me spring schedule together. Diet today was good hit my protein and cal numbers. I think I may increase the number of carbs in my preworkout meal to get some more energy in the gym.
01-14-2005, 10:08 PM
Day 31 - 32
Couldn't make it to the gym today, had to work longer than normal. Diet today was good. I am still noticably warm.
Finally got back into the gym today for legs. This workout was excellent, I think I just must have been having a bad day on the chest/tri workout. New personal record for squat, also kept the same volume as last week. I was pretty happy with this workout, felt like I was in the zone. So far I am up 50lbs on squats for sets from when I started this cycle, up 30lbs from my previous best. I felt like I had maybe 10lbs more in me but didn't want to push it. Stepped on the scale today and weight is holding at 219lbs, but I am becoming noticeably leaner. I'll get another pic up at the end of next week. Diet today was pretty good, 2 of my meals were a little more spaced out than I would have liked. Might run the T3 for 4 weeks instead of three, since I seem to be adding strength while on it, but not sure.
01-15-2005, 11:11 PM
Off day today, worked a 9 to 5 and thats about it for activity. Diet was excellent. I am quite pleased with how clean I have kept my diet for this long, usually I have a 1-2 meals every week that go pretty far outside what they should be. Tomorrow I am going to get up early and do some hiit before I have to go into work. I am not expecting much improvement from the last hiit sessions since they have been so far apart.
01-17-2005, 09:38 PM
Well, I was lazy today and didn't make it out for hiit in the morning before work. I just stayed out too late the night before and needed the rest. Not much else to report today. Diet today was so-so, I had a meal with the family that wasn't very clean but other than that good.
Worked back/bi's today, workout went well. I was probably up around 5-10 pounds on all back lifts and slightly increased bi strength. Completed all reps, so this leads me to believe that I was just having an off day on the last chest/tri workout, but we'll see tomorrow. Weight as of today is 217, down 3lbs since starting the T3 and strength is up. I have decided to only run the T3 three weeks and stick to my original cycle plan, so Sunday will be the last day. Diet today was on target.
01-18-2005, 08:48 PM
You can't avoid the heat with the T3, just stay hydrated. Also, because metabolism is up, if you do start to lose strength up cals to avoid catabolism. If your tired it could mean your on the verge of this. Great log!
01-18-2005, 11:08 PM
Thanks for the reply. I think I had preworkout carbs a little low before, but I fixed that. Workouts this week so far have been much better.
Yeah, but I have found a pretty effective way to deal with it. The only time the heat really bothers me is the 3-4 hours following a workout, drinking around ~30oz of really cold water every time I start to feel hot really helps. The only down side is you have to visit the bathroom every 45mins.You can't avoid the heat with the T3, just stay hydrated.
Today was chest/tri, good workout defiantly better than last week. Strength was the same on bench, but up on db incline. I was also able to complete more sets. As I mentioned earlier I think my preworkout meals in the prior weeks were a little low in carbs, but I have upped them this week. This will be the last week of the T3, I start titrating down tomorrow from 75mcg. Then I switch from MDHT to M4OHT, which I plan to run at 50mg for 2 weeks. On a side note, I use a college gym and today was the first day back it was pretty packed, man am I going to miss having the gym to myself.
01-20-2005, 11:07 PM
Day 39 - 40
Took both of these days off, to busy with finishing up working full time and the start of the semester. Tomorrow though I will get in the gym for a leg day and will probably make it in Saturday for a workout. Diet for these days has been great, I have been pretty proud of myself with being able to stay on a fairly strict diet without any disaster meals. Picked up a few things to add to my pct, in addition to novla I am going to run Fenugreek, Tribulus Terrestris 90%, and avena sativa powders.
01-21-2005, 11:00 PM
Officially I have started PCT, but I will post what I think would happen if I continued the cycle.
Got into the gym for a great leg workout. Added another 10lbs on my squat reps from last week, it took every last bit to get the last few reps of the last set. I was pretty drained after the squats but made it through the rest of the workout with the same weight as last week. Got on the scale today and still at ~218lbs, I got this number later in the day from when I usually weigh in, so I think it may be lower. I am going to run out of my MDHT solution 3 doses before I am suppose to start the M4OHT so it looks like I will begin the M4oht a little early. To help with thyroid recovery I have some lean Extreme, L-tyrosine, and Guggulsterone powders. We'll see if I can make it into the gym tomorrow, I planed on going in the morning but someone called in sick at work and I have to cover their shift.
01-22-2005, 09:45 PM
Couldn't make it into the gym today due to work. Legs were not near as sore as I thought they would be, should be fine after tomorrow. I will try to get a hold of a digital cam and get pics up by tomorrow night. I started the M4oht today at 25mg, I am going to run 50mg a day. I wish I knew the half life of this stuff so I could get a better dosing scheme, but I think 50mg broken into 3 doses should work. I have one more dose of T3 at 25mcg and then its off for the next two weeks then PCT.
01-23-2005, 08:24 PM
Nice log bro. I really enjoyed reading it thus far. How has the T3 worked for you?
Arnold SchwarzeneggerOriginally Posted by Arnold Schwarzenegger
01-23-2005, 09:29 PM
The T3 worked fairly well, if you look at the log I was gaining weight pretty quick until I added the T3. On the T3 my weight stayed constant, but my strength increased and I leaned out a bit. Which was the result I was shooting for, ideally I would like to be 210lbs @ 7-8% bodyfat. Here are some before and after weights, three main ones I keep track of to gauge strength:
before Previous best Cycle best Gain
bench 295X6 325X6 335X6 10lbs
ALPD* 210X6 230X6 250X6 20lbs
Squat 385X6 415X6 455X6 40lbs
*ALPD = Advance Lateral Pull down
Off day today worked a few hours then had dinner with the family. I think I may be getting sick, because today I felt horrible. It felt like I had a hangover pretty much all day, massive headache. A friend of mine is just getting over an illness, maybe she passed it on to me. I thought I got pretty good sleep last night, but maybe I just needed more. I have been getting up early every morning and with the school semester starting, still working full time, and the gym I might just need more rest. So I am going to get to bed early tonight and see what I feel like tomorrow.
01-24-2005, 11:40 PM
Worked back/bi's today, no real strength increases on back but some slight ones on my bi's. I went to the gym around 5pm and man was their a lot of people there, never going to do that again. The workout went well other than the masses of people and the fact that I was a little rushed do to a night class I have. I don't know what was wrong with me yesterday, but I felt fine today. Started the Lean Extreme, L-tyrosine, and guggl today, still feel pretty warm most of the time though. I don't think the thyroid PCT should be that difficult, but I am not looking forward to going off in 2 weeks. Tomorrow is a chest/tri workout and I should get into the gym around 2pm so their won't be that many people, I will also weigh in.
01-25-2005, 10:09 PM
Worked chest/tri's today, strength was up on bench, got another 10lbs. Weight is at 219lbs. Diet today was great. Haven't noticed any real changes in switching from MDHT to M40ht, but it is still early. Couldn't get the digital cam so I am just going to put a final pic up at the end of the cycle in a little under 2 weeks.
01-28-2005, 11:39 PM
Off days today, had to work and school. Put the leg day on Friday and shoulder/core for Saturday. Diet for these days has been excellent. Put on a pair of shorts that I haven't worn since the start of the cycle and they were pretty tight around the thighs, but waist fit great. I don't know how well you can feel thyroid suppression, but I don't think I am very suppressed. I feel pretty normal.
Worked legs today and it went great. I didn't increase the weight on my squats since I barely got it last week, but the reps were easier and I could have gone another 10lbs more than likely. Weight is right at 219lbs. Diet was alright, carbs and cals were high but they were clean. Just picked up a rice cooker and had to test that baby out, so I ended up eating a lot of long grain brown rice and teriyaki chicken.
01-30-2005, 12:22 AM
Got into the gym for a shoulder/core workout, went well. I don't really keep track of these lifts but I was up for db shrugs. Did some cardio, moderate intensity, keeping my heart rate at ~140. This was my first time doing cardio on cycle, other than hiit. After around 8 mins I got a huge pump in my calves, it was painful. Couldn't keep running, the pump was just too much. Even walking out to my car I could feel it. I have gotten a pump from low/moderate cardio, but nothing that would keep me from continuing like today. Cycle is almost over and then its lots of clean food, lighter weights, much less volume and lots of low intensity cardio. I can't wait .
01-31-2005, 11:56 PM
Off day today, had dinner with the family. Diet was good until I got to my parents house, had way too much food there.
Back/bi workout today, went well. Increased strength on back, stayed the same on bi's. I think the M4oht has kicked in because I got a huge pump in my bi's that made the workout much more difficult. I was even getting a pretty good pump in my back. One thing I have noticed in switching from Mdht to M4oht is that it seems my endurance has gone down and I seem to be breathing harder through my workouts. Also I felt better on Mdht, had more energy. Although I didn't get a huge amp like I thought I would it kept me alert and energetic thought the day. Maybe without it I am finally feeling the lethargy of the 1-test, had to take some caffeine to get me though my night lab. Diet today was spot on, weight is at 222lbs. I think some of the weight gain is just temporary from the Sunday meal.
02-01-2005, 11:48 PM
Chest/tri workout today, no real strength or endurance increases. Workout went well, got everything in using weights from last week. Pumps today weren't as bad a yesterday, but they have been stronger than before the M4oht. Diet today was great. I am getting pretty tired towards the end of the day, I could barely keep my head up for a few hours after my workout. Looks like I will have to break the EC stack out.
02-03-2005, 04:01 PM
This is an excellent log!
Thanks for posting - it's been helping me put my own cycle together.
Keep up the good work.
02-03-2005, 11:24 PM
Took today off, with my school schedule it would put me in the gym right around 5pm which would be a waist of a workout with the masses of people thier. Diet has been great, I have been eating a lot of long grain brown rice, that rice cooker was well worth the $20.
Couldn't make it to the gym today, so the leg workout will be tomorrow morning. It looks like I am going to run out of the transdermal either tonight or after my morning dose. I will probably stop the m4oht tomorrow as well and just start pct Saturday. I think I have a pretty good pct lined up, this is the first really suppressive cycle I have done. The mdien cycle was dosed way too low, when it first came out 1-2mgs was the recommended and thats what I did. Saw no real strength or size gains from that. For me m4ohn didn't really do anything except make my sleeping slightly more difficult, some size gains but nothing I couldn't have achieved naturally. We'll see how much of this I can hold on to, goal for pct is to not drop below 214lbs while keeping my strength on all lifts higher than my before cycle records.
02-04-2005, 05:42 PM
This log is great! Keep it up. By the way, where can I get one of those rice cookers? I have a hard time cooking long brown rice, haha
02-04-2005, 11:31 PM
Thanks, at least I know some people are reading it. I got the rice cooker from Amazon, its the Panasonic SR-W06PA @ $19.95. It is well worth the investment.
Worked legs today, hit 455lbs for 7 reps on my last set of squats. Last week I was only able to get 6. After that I went to work hams and they started to cramp up on me so I finished with 4 sets of calves and left. Today was the last day of the cycle, took the final dose of m4oht this morning and the trans ran out last night. Weight was 221lbs. Diet today was excellent, ended up eating a lot of egg whites. Tomorrow I start PCT here is the plan:
Avena Sativa 2g->2g->2g->2g
lean extreme 150mg->150mg
Diet is going to be ~3000cals, 40p/40c/20f, as clean as possible.
Training is going to be moderate weight, reps in the 8-12 range with a slower rep tempo, nothing goes to failure (got this from Bobo). Volume is going to be cut from 12-16 sets for large muscles to around 6-8 sets. Smaller muscles from 10-12 to 4-6 sets. I haven't decided exactly what my cardio routine is going to look like yet. I was thinking of some low intensity cardio, heart rate around 140bpm, for 30min 3 times a week. I still want to do some more research on this though.
Sunday I should have an updated pic up, I will also post a cycle recap. I am going to post what I would have done differently knowing what I know now, my opinions on the androgens and their effects, diet changes, ect. For the post cycle I don't think I will be updating quite as often, 1-2 times a week.
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