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SARMS OD, prelude to Hellabeaster/2X PH!

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    Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Are you in a 16/8 protocol; LG/IF?? I used it the first six weeks of my cut and it worked pretty freakin good. The first week was tough, but it did get easier.. (this inky matters if this IS what your doing lol) coffee, flavored water + Leucine became my best friend.
    Yezzir pretty much; I mean I give myself a bit more breathing room by having a cheat meal, so I can't say that I'm in 100%, maybe around 95% more or less and yeah when I hit around 12-13 hrs it feels like something else, especially when it semi feels like I'm about to hit a wall but just muscle through it and pump myself up (a large amount of that goes to that c4 too). So by the time I finish working out, after about another hour or so I have a large meal and post. Of course during special occasions, I have to change that as well.

    It's getting a bit better, but it's messing with my sleep mainly because I like to have a meal before bed, not trying to change my timing again for the fourth time, because I like what I have now, I just gotta make the best out of it. I'll def look into some leucine as well, I know it's in one of my protein shakes, but lil more couldn't hurt.

    Lemme ask ya right quick, I'm pretty close to my ultimate goal of having my complete 8er showing; I can feel and count each ab when I rub my fingers through, but I want it there permanently ya know and I wanna put on as much dry muscle as I can. I'm semi hesitate at this point to hit up beasters again because of the bloat and retention; but would this be good to stack with stano or what would you recommend for this for what I'm trying to do. I've been looking at other ph/ds but I wanted to grab a pro's advice before I either make my own decisions or mix and match previous knowledge; ya know either way I had to get advice from one of the best around.
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    Ah so the deep sleep isn't happening anymore and now to sleep, needa walk around a bit, eating a protein bar with milk and water. Managed to only get 4 hours so far; although Ima def try and go back to sleep soon, I feel almost wide awake. Still feel a good pulsating throughout my arms; not a burn or a wicked pump like leavin the gym, but feels good. Even though I'm a tall guy and long ass arms, felt like a t-rex met pitbull walking out today. My arms cocked halfway up and inwards (after working out my back, walking with a semi hunch) a few ppl I know at the gym asking me who was gonna get knocked out, I laughed and said it was a good day at tha office.

    Went to this new joint, had some bread slices with some crazy toppings (meat, cheese sauce) jumpoffs, calamari and had a prime A cut hamburger; ish was pretty big and not too bad at all. No dessert nor after dinner coffee like I'll usually pull. I'm going to try these power to sleep pills now and see what's good, prob do a mini review on that after a weeks time; might as well, their just sitting here.

    Hahahah I know the last paragraph of my post before this, sounds kinda douchey how I'm describing it, but it's the only way I can. I don't show off or anything, it's just something I've always wanted to have without having to semi suck in a bit. As I'm getting closer I just wanna get that better by the time I hit my ph game up again in a few weeks. Hella had me going there, but throwing in beast, threw that off a bit; but that gave me so much mass that I managed to keep a great amount of it and of course losing a good amount of weight was all that water and glycogen retention like whoa.
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    Today was an off day, but did a bit of cardio and plan on going for another walk later on. Had a protein shake, bacon english muffin sandwich and fruits and nuts; no major meal yet, but I was felt like I was going to faint if I did not put a lil somethin somethin in my body throughout the day. I jynxed myself and the adjustment issue is starting to become a bit more apparent; I won't let it phase me yet and still run it at 100mg; but if it gets ridic, I'm dropping it back down. Other than that, no sides and no complains at all to report so far.
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    Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    Today was an off day, but did a bit of cardio and plan on going for another walk later on. Had a protein shake, bacon english muffin sandwich and fruits and nuts; no major meal yet, but I was felt like I was going to faint if I did not put a lil somethin somethin in my body throughout the day. I jynxed myself and the adjustment issue is starting to become a bit more apparent; I won't let it phase me yet and still run it at 100mg; but if it gets ridic, I'm dropping it back down. Other than that, no sides and no complains at all to report so far.
    You upped your s4 dose to 100mg? The muscle hardening should be prominent at that dosage. Speakin of cardio, i need to get my fat tail back on my eliptical...
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    Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    You upped your s4 dose to 100mg? The muscle hardening should be prominent at that dosage. Speakin of cardio, i need to get my fat tail back on my eliptical...
    Yezzir upped it a couple of days ago; literally took no time for that stupid light adjustment side to kick-in. I was laying at the pool, might have passed out for like an hour or so and when I woke up to get some water, fckin felt blinded for a good few mins. But hell yeah muscle hardening and aggression should hopefully go up a lot more. Don't feel bad, took me a long ass time to get back in cardio, JUST SO BORING. Aside from my muay thai trainings, I know without cardio it'll feel like I'ma fish outta water at times; a nauseous one at that too, depending on how much I exert myself with little rest.
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    dosing sarms and sippin on that sweet bitterness now; today the program calls for tri's/bi's, it's the part where it's only 4 workouts where both of them are supersets. On paper looks like an easy day, but I plan on busting my ass and taking it all the way I can. I also plan on throwing abs into the mix, just so I can be at the gym a bit longer and I'll feel like I've done more hahaha; sad but true, but I know some of ya feel me!
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    I'll finally be puttin on my avatar, in salute to a true American hero....yippy kay muttahfckahs!
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    edit that, a legend hahaha, but I'll post my w/o and meals when I get back in a bit
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    Got back not too long ago and still have to wait almost another 2 hours to eat, aahh it is what it is. However, even though it was a pretty short day at the gym, managed to get a nice pump on.

    Tri's/Bi's (Each pair of exercises were supersets):

    Skullcrushers: 60x10/70x10/80x8 twice
    Standing Bicep Cable: 50x12/75x10/100x8 twice

    No rest from the first exercise to the second; rested around 45 secs after the second exercise and went back into it.

    Tri Push Down (Crooked bar, haven't used that in a while): 60x12/75x10/90x10 twice (pump pump)
    Reverse Grip Pull Down (couldn't do high cable curls laying down to due equipment was being used): 50x10/60x10/80x8/90x8; I knew I was doing a lot more heavier weight than that not too long ago, but I know this semi cutting is slightly hindering my strength, I mean my weights still going up, but it just takes more of an effort; hahaha obviously cause I ain't on that hd/sd anymore, but soon again I'll be exploding through those again.


    No rest from the first exercise to the second; rested around 45 secs after the second exercise and went back into it. I also threw in my typical ab routine, which I will be changing shortly, but so far I'm really liking the results. I don't have to suck in as much to see a great 6er, but if I feel like douching it up and really sucking it in, damn nearly there to that 8er, hahaha sorry I usually don't go on like this, but I'm close this time I can feel and nearly see it.
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    Although the program is calling for back and legs today, I am deciding to take it off and hit legs tomorrow. I know I played around a bit too much with my back and felt something very slight come on last night, so I decided to take it easy today and not mess around. I'm not in pain anymore or anything like that; but there's no point rushing into a workout that will cause more strain and pressure on my lower back.

    If I feel better by 5 I'll hit the gym and do some legs, but I'll wait out a bit longer and see whas goody with that. Otherwise, I'm feeling very good and feels like a 56k connection to my goals; slowly getting there hahah. Feels like I can swipe a credit card through my abs, from the bottom of my chest to my belly button; but other than 4 abs out freely, I still have to squeeze or wiggle around to see it. I know I'm driving myself a bit crazy here, but ay it is what it is and once I get there, I plan on sustaining and making them more pronounced and overall just get a nasty shredded ripped look.
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    Sin, you keep referring to your workout program. Is it something home grown??

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    Originally Posted by peter01 View Post
    Sin, you keep referring to your workout program. Is it something home grown??
    nah I'm just doing 6 weeks to sick arms again, if you google it should be the first link from bodybuilding dot com by Dr. Jim; for my sarms run I'll be using this and by the time I start PCT, I'm gonna go back to my normal 2 on 2 off heavy. Then when I pre-load for my cycle, I'll be doing a different routine then ultimately switching off an on between upper/lower body and incorporating bits and pieces of two programs.

    I'm also doing this fasting protocol that I'm contemplating about dropping, because although I'm good at going a long time without food, insane workouts and doing other things without eating, meaahh I dunno; going from 6-7 meals a day to almost 1-2 with a few snacks here and there, minus a good amount of carbs, eehhh hahah I'm jus saying. But of course, cycle time I'll be stepping it up just a bit, but I don't think I'ma go too crazy again, fck around and gain 40 lbs in less than 4 months. I suppose that was just for winter, but since summer is coming up, trying to get a bit more ripped, but still put on as much as I can.
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    Decided to play it a bit safe today and plan on working out legs tomorrow afternoon; it works well for some, but my body doesn't like a leg/back workout day after each other. I had some soup, new england claim chowder with a couple of slices of whole wheat bread. I'll have a protein/fiber bar and some whole grain cheerios before passing out and surprisingly I'm not as moody as before, I mean yeah this protocol still kinda sucks, but it is what it is.

    Also, I plan on running this for 6 weeks, so three weeks after this then I'll be pre-loading! I'm looking into several things, but just not sure yet. I saw someone wanted to run epi+sd+trenazone, which caught my attention and of course I'ma figure out a few things with that. Or maybe beast with stano; the main thing always on my mind is libido, so that's the number one thing I'll consult with and although I still have transderm (prob another use of it), I might get something on top of that and a ish load during pct.
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    Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    Decided to play it a bit safe today and plan on working out legs tomorrow afternoon; it works well for some, but my body doesn't like a leg/back workout day after each other. I had some soup, new england claim chowder with a couple of slices of whole wheat bread. I'll have a protein/fiber bar and some whole grain cheerios before passing out and surprisingly I'm not as moody as before, I mean yeah this protocol still kinda sucks, but it is what it is.

    Also, I plan on running this for 6 weeks, so three weeks after this then I'll be pre-loading! I'm looking into several things, but just not sure yet. I saw someone wanted to run epi+sd+trenazone, which caught my attention and of course I'ma figure out a few things with that. Or maybe beast with stano; the main thing always on my mind is libido, so that's the number one thing I'll consult with and although I still have transderm (prob another use of it), I might get something on top of that and a ish load during pct.
    Whatre you after, size and strength? Epi and tren for sure.

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    Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    Whatre you after, size and strength? Epi and tren for sure.

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    just signed up with them, I really appreciate that and yes, looking for size, stength and to get more cut. I'm def gonna use this outline and I was thinkin about throwin in some winny too? I'll send ya a PM and we'll figure something out yo; good lookin out with this.
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    Dosed up and waiting another 20 or so to the gym a bit earlier and work on my legs; this I do have a normal routine for [nothing special, but works for me], but will change after my sarms run and mini PCT. Although I'm putting a pounding on my arms, there is no way I plan on taking it any easier with me tree trunks. I dunno if I'll have enough time to post everything after my workout, but later tonight, I'll throw a few things up.
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    Standard leg day; same workout as posted not too long ago, however, my weights increased by 10lbs at the same amount of reps per exercise. Could I go a bit heavier, absolutely, I just took it easy because working back and legs even 3 days apart sometimes, can cause a bit of trouble in my lower back.

    Afterwards, waited a bit of time, had a bit of cereal before going out to dinner. We went to a steakhouse, I had caesar salad and a pretty big cheeseburger, fries; I'll count that as my cheat meal for the week. Since I put that good amount of carbs/calories in, I'll be hitting tri's/bi's tomorrow heavy. Even fasting a great amount of the time, I'm managing to keep it all together and my flip out button hasn't been touched fortunately and it feels like the finger is backing away from the red button. I know it's not from the sarms, but from my natural aggression and my body feinin' food hahah.
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    might be trying something new here, when I get more details and if it sounds mad good, I guess I'll guinea pig it as well; funny thing is if the other thing comes out soon too, then I'll have to guinea pig that as well hahah.
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    Unfortunately I missed the gym today; I had to help my girl with several things and then take care of a few issues myself. I've been doing a decent amount of research and I'm ready to try something new here. A new company called Venom Gate; I will be trying their test/tren transdermal and I will be throwing in epi into the mix. I know I will need a lot more, but before I wrote my final plan I'm gonna work on a few things to make sure I'm fully covered; who knows, if the new sarms comes out soon too Ill throw that in there as well.
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    Dosing up and about to mix up my pwo soon, gonna hit tri's/bi's today, much like the first day and I'll make the outline when I get back. Just finally completed the first order of my new cycle. Got some tremendous help from Tyga & Gator, shouts out to them for helping me not only finding these products but setting up a mean outline that I'm hella looking forward to.

    Depending on how it treats me throughout the cycle, I'll be able to determine how long I'm gonna stretch these bad boys out.

    Test/Tren transdermal: 1.5mg for 8 weeks (if 4-6weeks halfway I wanna go more, I'll extend to 12 weeks; but he said 1.5ml ed is gonna be nice and should see some drastic changes)

    Epi (kicker) 1-4 @ 40mg -50mg
    Winny Transdermal: last four weeks at 50mg

    Of course I will have a good amount on hand: diff peps, supps, ancillaries, multis, protection and assist; I'm speaking around the past few hours and on top of things I'll pick up, a couple of friends are gonna hook it up with a couple peps they have on hand. I'll fully write everything out when that time comes as on here, before I decide on making a new thread or not.

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    TOR 120/90/90/60
    TCF 1 per bottle
    Formasurge 75/75/75/75/50/50 (mg of formestane)
    Unleashed per bottle
    DAA 3/3/3
    Testapro/Omega Force (Fadogia) -- 1.5g+ ed
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