Trenavar/hcg/letro cycle

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Log of my first ph cycle,

This is my first day of this experiment, I let my self swell up to 239.4lbs ( yes I gained fat on purpose). I want to see if a post cycle therapy is really needed if trenavar is used with hcg. Spare me the insults I know pct are need. But what I want to know is to what extent if I use hcg while on cycle and Cruse on the hcg how much of the weight and muscle will stay after trenavar has cleared my system.

Current stats, weight 239.4, Thighs 21.5, Calves 15.5, forearms 12.5, Shoulders 54, neck 16.5
Chest 43, Arms 15.4, Hips 41, waist 38,

Cycle
Trenavar 45/60/75/90/90/90/90/90
HCG ( pharm grade) 1000iu M/W/F @night time

Support
Letrozole 2.5mg M/W/F @ 8pm
Cel cycle assist Ed
Purus organ shield ( half dose just for a lil extra support) Ed
Sns Inhibit-p Ed
Now chromium gtf 3 tabs Ed
Metagenic Glucorest 1 tab Ed

Other
CL orange Thiad Ed
CL oximega ( double the dose)
Metagenic adrenogen 3 tabs Ed
Muscle pharm zma Ed
Metagenic D3 2000 iu
B12 100mcg
Flurry m&ms protein

Diet mostly clean I will cheat eventually

Breakfast Greek yogurt 5.4oz & protein shake or 4 egg white one whole egg

Lunch Quinoa with cod, talapia, beef, Steak or chicken. Sometimes ill replace quinoa with Steak Tomatoes and cucumbers. I will cheat time to time mostly at lunch due to my coworkers.

Dinner repeat lunch.

Weights 5 days a week M-F
Mon chest and arms, abs
Tue back and abs
Wed legs, shoulder and abs
Thurs back, arms and abs
Fri free for all

Day 1 (today) felt weak today took tvar 15 and all the supplements at 5 am with a protein shake for breakfast, went to the gym 5:30am

Chest arms and abs, 5:30am-6:55am
Flat bench 225lbs x 12/12/12/10/8
Flat bench 315lbs x 2/1
Flat bench 275lbs x 10/10
Decline 225 lbs x 10/12/15/8
Incline 185 lbs x 10/10/10/8
Standing dumb bell flys 10lbs two sets of 50
Seated incline dumbbell press 50lbs 10/10/10/10/8
Overhead triceps extension 60lbs 10/10/10/10
Hammer curls 50lbs 12/10/8/10/12
Sit ups 200
Push ups 200
Chin up 40
Pull ups 60
Shoulder shrugs 185lbs 10/10/10
Shoulder shrugs 225lbs 10/10/10/10

7:05 am BCAA right after shower at the gym.
7:18am protein shake
9am black coffee 4 Splenda ( stevia is better but my employer doesn't buy it I got some at home keep forgetting to bring it in)
10:40am protein shake
12 noon 1 cup quinoa with steak (230 grams) and a walnut chocolate brownie. ( yes I know brownie smh)
2:30 cel cycle assist
3pm protein shake
 

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I am interested in the results.

You taking something to prevent hair loss I hope
 
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I am interested in the results.

You taking something to prevent hair loss I hope
My dht is naturally high on the last test it was 136 ng/ dl normal range is 16-79ng/dl. I have never had a normal dht level one time it was in the high 200s still had my hair. In not saying it won't fall off lol heck no, but I never have used trenavar I'm going to wing it, if my hair starts to fall ill add toco 8, what's your opinion?
 
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Log of my first ph cycle,

This is my first day of this experiment, I let my self swell up to 239.4lbs ( yes I gained fat on purpose). I want to see if a post cycle therapy is really needed if trenavar is used with hcg. Spare me the insults I know pct are need. But what I want to know is to what extent if I use hcg while on cycle and Cruse on the hcg how much of the weight and muscle will stay after trenavar has cleared my system.

Current stats, weight 239.4, Thighs 21.5, Calves 15.5, forearms 12.5, Shoulders 54, neck 16.5
Chest 43, Arms 15.4, Hips 41, waist 38,

Cycle
Trenavar 45/60/75/90/90/90/90/90
HCG ( pharm grade) 1000iu M/W/F @night time

Support
Letrozole 2.5mg M/W/F @ 8pm
Cel cycle assist Ed
Purus organ shield ( half dose just for a lil extra support) Ed
Sns Inhibit-p Ed
Now chromium gtf 3 tabs Ed
Metagenic Glucorest 1 tab Ed

Other
CL orange Thiad Ed
CL oximega ( double the dose)
Metagenic adrenogen 3 tabs Ed
Muscle pharm zma Ed
Metagenic D3 2000 iu
B12 100mcg
Flurry m&ms protein

Diet mostly clean I will cheat eventually

Breakfast Greek yogurt 5.4oz & protein shake or 4 egg white one whole egg

Lunch Quinoa with cod, talapia, beef, Steak or chicken. Sometimes ill replace quinoa with Steak Tomatoes and cucumbers. I will cheat time to time mostly at lunch due to my coworkers.

Dinner repeat lunch.

Weights 5 days a week M-F
Mon chest and arms, abs
Tue back and abs
Wed legs, shoulder and abs
Thurs back, arms and abs
Fri free for all

Day 1 (today) felt weak today took tvar 15 and all the supplements at 5 am with a protein shake for breakfast, went to the gym 5:30am

Chest arms and abs, 5:30am-6:55am
Flat bench 225lbs x 12/12/12/10/8
Flat bench 315lbs x 2/1
Flat bench 275lbs x 10/10
Decline 225 lbs x 10/12/15/8
Incline 185 lbs x 10/10/10/8
Standing dumb bell flys 10lbs two sets of 50
Seated incline dumbbell press 50lbs 10/10/10/10/8
Overhead triceps extension 60lbs 10/10/10/10
Hammer curls 50lbs 12/10/8/10/12
Sit ups 200
Push ups 200
Chin up 40
Pull ups 60
Shoulder shrugs 185lbs 10/10/10
Shoulder shrugs 225lbs 10/10/10/10

7:05 am BCAA right after shower at the gym.
7:18am protein shake
9am black coffee 4 Splenda ( stevia is better but my employer doesn't buy it I got some at home keep forgetting to bring it in)
10:40am protein shake
12 noon 1 cup quinoa with steak (230 grams) and a walnut chocolate brownie. ( yes I know brownie smh)
2:30 cel cycle assist
3pm protein shake
5pm protein shake and trenavar
6pm small bag of peanuts and vitamin water
8pm dinner Steak Tomatoes and 230 gms of steak (about 8 oz)
 
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5pm protein shake and trenavar
6pm small bag of peanuts and vitamin water
8pm dinner Steak Tomatoes and 230 gms of steak (about 8 oz)
9pm 2.5mg letro, zma, multi, omegas
9:30pm HCG 1000iu
 
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Day2 tue

Trenavar and all the sups at 5 am ( woke up late)
Strength is noticeable body temp is up. My boys are huge ( hcg injection last night)

Breakfast Greek yogurt and protein shake
Gym 5:40-7am back, abs

Dead lifts 315 lbs 12/10/10/10/8
Dead lift 365 lbs 8/6/3/1
Dead lift 225 lbs 10/10/10/10
Straight leg dead lift 225 lbs 10/10/10/8/6
Seated row 190lbs 15/12/10/10/10/8
Pull ups 60
Sit ups 100
Push up 50
Shoulder shrugs 225 lbs 10/10/10/10
Curls cable 180lbs 10/10/10/10
Dips 30/30/30/18

8am protein shake
9 am black coffee no sugar
9:20 Canada Dry seltzer water
11am protein & trenavar
12noon supps
1pm company lunch 12 oz steak, peppers onion half a cup of rice
2pm chocolate pretzels
4 pm black coffee ( company socialized had to drink a coffee with boss)
4:30 pm 6oz steak
6pm protein shake, supps and trenavar
10pm Steak Tomatoes 2 talapia fish
11pm a diet coke and a kuba kuba Acid Cigar with the guys. I will be updating the post at the end of the days

I feel stronger, focused, I get random surges of energy and woods, my reflexes are a lil faster, joking around at work I put one of the big guys on the floor he weights 270lbs, I was not even out of breath or sweating after all the horsing around.
 
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Wed legs

My employer called me in for an emergency at work at midnight so my schedule is off.

1am black coffee 4 stevia
1:30 am protein shake
2:30 am trenavar I decided to go to the gym at 3am-420am

Squats. 315lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10
405 lbs 10/10/10/10
225 lbs 15/15/15/15

Leg extension 50lbs 20/20/20/20

Calf seated extension 140lbs 10/10/10/10
150lbs 10/10/10/10
160lbs 10/10/10/10
180 lbs 10/10/10/10
190 lbs 10/10
210 lbs 10/10/10/10
Seated leg press 190 lbs 10/10/10/10
225lbs 10/10/10/10
Sit ups 350
Shoulder shrugs 225 lbs 10/10/10/10

4:30 am protein shake after work out
8:20 am protein shake cottage cheeses two table spoons of jif creamy peanut butter, all my supps and trenavar

Sleep 9 am to 3pm
3:20pm protein shake, trenavar 8oz of talapia only, I have noticed my apatite is in the hole, no cravings. No hunger. I have been going to the bath room all day a lot of 1 and 2. I stepped on the scale 221.4 my eyes pop open went to the store got new battery's tested again 221.4. I must of lost water weight, my confidence is up. I feel good, strong and my mind is relaxed in a good mood.
4:30 All supps
5pm protein shake
6:30 trenavar two talapia totaling 8 oz
7pm cottage cheese


My day is not over but I plan on doing the following tonight.

8 pm letro 2.5 mg all supps
9pm hcg 1000iu
Trenavar
Maybe a protein shake.
 
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Thursday Woke up at 12:40am very hungry, and a thirst. I have never been so hungry in my life. I decided that maybe a protein shake will eliminate the hunger. 5 min later I was still hungry so I drank 40oz of water. A few min later I woke up and ran to the 24 hour restaurant. I ate a beef patty I know it was a bad choice but I figure the hight amount of fat would hold me all night. Took a trenavar before bed again. 5am woke up extremely thirsty with a huge head ach, I called out of work and drank 20oz water took all my supps. Went back to bed. 10am woke up hungry, headache still there made 8 egg whites. Drank 20oz of water. Took a trenavar 11:30am protein shake 12:40pm-3:57pm gym back day 12:40 trenavar Dead lift 365lbs 6/6/4 315lbs 5/5/5 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10 Straight leg dead lift 365lbs 2/1 315lbs 5/3/1 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Sit-up 350 Pull ups 50 Dips 100 Bent over barbell row 135lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Barbell row 135lbs 10/10/10/10 Seated row 145lbs 10/10/10/10 165 lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Front lat pull down 190lbs 10/10/10/10/10 200lbs 10/10/10/10 Straight arm pull downs 60lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10 Inverted row @bodyweight 10/10/10/10/10/10 One arm dumbbell row 55lbs 10/10/10/10 60lbs 10/10/10/10 Barbell shrugs 225lbs smith machine 10/10/10/10/10 Hammer curls 55lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10 Incline dumbbell press 60lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10 My energy is through the roof, very thirsty and I have no appetite, I get random hunger pains 4pm black coffee 4:30pm protein shake Not hungry though the day skipped lunch, because was not hungry. 7:40 pm took trenavar still not hungry but I decided I needed to eat something because I hit the gym for about 3 hours. So I got a croissant with 4 egg whites one whole egg and turkey bacon, with a 22 oz mineral water 9:30 protein shake I have notice I'm very thirsty, no hunger through most of the day, random hunger pains.focused and I feel good.
 

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Dude, this is awesome! Crush it. Keep up the good work! Keep posting, I am IN!!!
 
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You did nine sets on flat bench? And why are you blasting letro m/w/f? One more... why are you taking 3g of HCG a week?
 
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You did nine sets on flat bench? And why are you blasting letro m/w/f? One more... why are you taking 3g of HCG a week?
Yup nine sets and I have not been sore one day this whole week. I chose letro for a few reasons one its the best ai in my opinion it raises lh/fsh and crushes estrogen and progesterone which also lowers prolactin, also to prevent gyno plus when you inject Hcg at. Over 250iu you'll get a surge of estrogen with the boost of testosterone and lh thats one of the reason Choose to use a ai in the cycle. I'm doing hcg because it #one boost natural test levels which trenavar will lower,#2 keep my sex drive, my boys happy and my Htpa will not be suppressed through the hole cycle. 3000iu of hcg a week keeps my test levels Between 905-1200 (I ran hcg solo for 3 months under the supervision of my endo) to determine the hcg effect on my test level
 
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Friday 5:20am trenavar and all my supps 5:30 am protein shake Gym free for all friday, 5:50am-6:45am Bench press 225lbs 8/10/10/10/8 Dead lift 225lbs 10/10/10/10 275 lbs 10/10/10 315lbs 10/8/6/4 405lbs only one Push ups 200 Sit ups 200 Smith machine shoulder shrugs 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Hammer curls 45 lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Decline dumbbell press 45 lbs 10/10/10/10 7:30am protein shake 11:20 protein shake 12 pm sups, trenavar and Philly cheese steak, . I ate lunch but was not really hungry, all the guys got phillys so I just grabed one as well with lays chips and a diet lemon coke. 30min after I eat the Philly cheese steak I broke out in a sweat just sitting there doing notting, my body temp was up until about 2:40pm. I'm still thirsty all the time every 30min to hour I drink water, thank goodness my employer doesn't care how many time you use the bathroom or drink or snack as long as you get your work done by the end of the day they will leave you alone. Lol I'm thinking of doing push ups at work every hour 20 min to 50max, haven't done it because I don't want to push the envelope to far if you know what I mean. 4pm protein shake & small bag of chocolate pretzel 8:30pm KFC two grilled chicken breast and a diet coke. 10:30pm protein shake, letro 2.5mg, trenavar and hcg 1000iu
 
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Any immediate strength gains, very interested in trenevar
 
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My dht is naturally high on the last test it was 136 ng/ dl normal range is 16-79ng/dl. I have never had a normal dht level one time it was in the high 200s still had my hair. In not saying it won't fall off lol heck no, but I never have used trenavar I'm going to wing it, if my hair starts to fall ill add toco 8, what's your opinion?
Why not throw the Toco8 (or TocoSorb generic brand) in just in case? Great antioxidant properties and a lot less chance for neg sides . I'd say it's worth $13-28 to keep my hair... Just an outsiders opinion.
 
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Any immediate strength gains, very interested in trenevar
I have gotten a Lil stronger, but I'm on the loading stage still, my body has not gotten adjusted to the trenavar I can tell when it's kicking in and when it fade out. But I know that as of now I like it and I'm at a very low dosage because its my first time using it. To answer your question yes I do feel stronger, I know as I up my dose to 90 ill be happy one of the days I took two doses of 15 almost 1 hour apart before the gym and I had an amazing workout I thought I would be in pain the next day I have recovered pretty fast no soreness, plus im Horney all the time which is a nice bonus. I will most deff run trenavar again maybe stacked in the near future with something else.
 
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Why not throw the Toco8 (or TocoSorb generic brand) in just in case? Great antioxidant properties and a lot less chance for neg sides . I'd say it's worth $13-28 to keep my hair... Just an outsiders opinion.
Drizzle88 thanks, most deffent your opinion is respected and i did research it alot. When my hair starts to fall out ill shave my head and start toco8 to regain the hair but i feel it wont be needed my dht has been high for years, lol a man at the gym told me I rather be a bold muscular man than a weak shade of what appears to be a man, woman will look past the hair if there looking at else were lol. But if I target my dht to aggressively it will hurt my gains, dht is considered a Stronger hormone, yes dht has negative affects but I see it this way a lot of people take dht based steroids to boost power and muscle we must look at the plus affects to dht as well. There are no outside opinions on the board were all in together with the common goal muscle,strength and good health right, your opinion is consider to me as an inside opinion.
 
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Drizzle88 thanks, most deffent your opinion is respected and i did research it alot. When my hair starts to fall out ill shave my head and start toco8 to regain the hair but i feel it wont be needed my dht has been high for years, lol a man at the gym told me I rather be a bold muscular man than a weak shade of what appears to be a man, woman will look past the hair if there looking at else were lol. But if I target my dht to aggressively it will hurt my gains, dht is considered a Stronger hormone, yes dht has negative affects but I see it this way a lot of people take dht based steroids to boost power and muscle we must look at the plus affects to dht as well. There are no outside opinions on the board were all in together with the common goal muscle,strength and good health right, your opinion is consider to me as an inside opinion.
Hey, you know your body better than anyone. I was just giving a "neutral" opinion.
 
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Hey, you know your body better than anyone. I was just giving a "neutral" opinion.
Lol I hope that didn't come on to strong if it did sorry I ant mean it that way bro, have you used toco 8 before to prevent hair loss or to recover hair loss? If so how did it fair out?
 
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No, I have a bottle of tocosorbs sitting dormant bc I was going to run Androhard/Superdrol but we all know now that faired out. Luckily i have five bottles of SD but no AH so I never ran it. I'm staying natural for now so I may use it just as a staple and see if my hair gets any thicker.

Just did a lot of research on tocotrienol and hair loss prevention. The science behind it makes sense.
 
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No, I have a bottle of tocosorbs sitting dormant bc I was going to run Androhard/Superdrol but we all know now that faired out. Luckily i have five bottles of SD but no AH so I never ran it. I'm staying natural for now so I may use it just as a staple and see if my hair gets any thicker.

Just did a lot of research on tocotrienol and hair loss prevention. The science behind it makes sense.
Nice SD!! You can run Sd on its own I'm thinking of running SD on its own next year
 
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Nice SD!! You can run Sd on its own I'm thinking of running SD on its own next year
I was using the AH to mitigate neg sides/lethargy/etc and also for a little added DHT and androgenic effects. The anabolic properties of SD are not to be compared to any other legal compound... Well SD isn't legal now but you get the picture.
 
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Rest day Woke up 6:40 with a really hard wood, I have not had a wood like this in over 19 years, lol I could not even go to the bath room it went down after 20 something mins. took the sups at 7am with a protein shake. 9:30am ate breakfast everything bagel with 4 egg whites turkey bacon and ketchup. A tropicana grapefruit juice and a coffee. A lot of people told me that I have been really happy the last few days. They think its because of the holidays but let keep our secret lol. I have random very hard woodsy 11:20 am protein shake 12 pm yellow plantains and 16oz chipotle chicken 3pm protein shake, trenavar 6pm half a cup of spaghetti and 8 oz of chicken breast 7 pm all supps 10pm trenavar I feel stronger, my wife said I was getting a lil bigger if I changed any of my workouts. Still very thirsty not getting any apatite. On Monday I will up my morning dose to 30 mg (60mg per day)
 
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Why are you running letro ? trenavar doesn't aromatise.


I understand extreme low dosing as HCG spike estrogen but that is all.
 
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Why are you running letro ? trenavar doesn't aromatise.

I understand extreme low dosing as HCG spike estrogen but that is all.
I'm running letro because 1000iu 3 times a week alone brought up my estrogen levels to 170 the Secound time I ran hcg solo it went up to 62. Hcg will shoot your estrogen to the roof. At 1000 iu it will go up. Plus letro has other advantage besides being a ai. My endo also thinks its the best for me right now. He hates the fact I'm running trenavar. I have ran hcg alone for a year to figure out what dose I needed
 
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Sunday rest day

Woke up starving at 12:20 am went to a Taco Bell 24 hr got a Catalina burrito with guacamole, chips and a lemon aid. 6:50am woke up took all sups and trenavar with a protein shake. 8:30 am breakfast two egg whites, ham turkey bacon on a croissant with a diet ginger ale 11 am sups and protein shake 12:37 pm hunger pains kicked in had to eat the closet thing near me. Checkers fish deep sea double frys and a diet pibb. My back felt like its on fire right after I ate for about 10 min. My thirst has gone away. 2pm took sups and trenavar 4pm drank a zero carb monster drink 5pm protein shake 725pm 8oz cod fish two tomatoes 9 pm all supps I took the hcg 1000iu letro 2.5mg today because Tomorrow my condo will be heck-tic. My wife bought me a few bottles of humapro protein tabs I think I will drop the gluco rest and chromium gtf to try this protein tab and see how that works
 
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I'm running letro because 1000iu 3 times a week alone brought up my estrogen levels to 170 the Secound time I ran hcg solo it went up to 62. Hcg will shoot your estrogen to the roof. At 1000 iu it will go up. Plus letro has other advantage besides being a ai. My endo also thinks its the best for me right now. He hates the fact I'm running trenavar. I have ran hcg alone for a year to figure out what dose I needed
3000IU a week holy sh*t!
 
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3000IU a week holy sh*t!
Lol, smh yeah. 3000iu keeps my test levels from 905-1200 :) plus we all know trenavar will surpress your test level. I will tell you this, the day after I do the hcg I feel the strongest, most confident and aggressive no apatite and might sound stupid but I get the most compliments from people Tues/Thurs/Sat which are the days after hcg. When we nailed the dosage I said the same thing holy sh*t josh ( my endo )
 
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Monday

Woke up starving at 3am so I decided I will drink a shake and hit the gym. Took all sups 3:30am and 30 mg of trenavar, got to the gym at 3:35am

Monday

( fu**ing new year people are in:( took all the good equipment ) place is packed Flat bench 185lbs 12/10/8/12 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10 275lbs 6/6/5/4 315lbs 2/1 Incline dumbbell press 50lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10 60lbs dumbbell shoulder shrugs 12/12/10/10/8/8/6/8/10 50lbs hammer curls 10/10/10/10/10/10 Lat press down 50lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Bum bell flys 10lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10 Barbell curls 60lbs 15/12/10/8/6/8/10 Barbell curls 50lbs 10/10/10/10 Gym got to packed I decided to call it a day at 4:40am took BCAA and 5 humapro ( my wife bought me) 7am 6 pancakes 8am took a protein shake 10am took humapro and my sups 10:40am one cup of cottage cheese 12pm 8oz of Dominican ham from cibao meats two slices of whole wheat bread 2pm a tangerine and 5 humapro 4pm humapro 6pm hunger hit hard very hard!!!! I had cold sweats walked into dominoes pizza a gave a guy that just picked up his pizza 50$ for a large pie. I can't be leave I ate the hole pie. My wife was more shocked then I was. 10pm took all my supps and trenavar Took humapro
 
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Woke up starving at 3am so I decided I will drink a shake and hit the gym. Took all sups 3:30am and 30 mg of trenavar, got to the gym at 3:35am Monday ( fu**ing new year people are in) place is packed Flat bench 185lbs 12/10/8/12 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10 275lbs 6/6/5/4 315lbs 2/1 Incline dumbbell press 50lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10 60lbs dumbbell shoulder shrugs 12/12/10/10/8/8/6/8/10 50lbs hammer curls 10/10/10/10/10/10 Lat press down 50lbs 10/10/10/10/10 Bum bell flys 10lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10 Barbell curls 60lbs 15/12/10/8/6/8/10 Barbell curls 50lbs 10/10/10/10 Gym got to packed I decided to call it a day at 4:40am took BCAA and 5 humapro ( my wife bought me) 7am 6 pancakes 8am took a protein shake 10am took humapro and my sups 10:40am one cup of cottage cheese 12pm 8oz of Dominican ham from cibao meats two slices of whole wheat bread 2pm a tangerine and 5 humapro 4pm humapro 6pm hunger hit hard very hard!!!! I had cold sweats walked into dominoes pizza a gave a guy that just picked up his pizza 50$ for a large pie. I can't be leave I ate the hole pie. My wife was more shocked then I was. 10pm took all my supps and trenavar Took humapro
 
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Breaking up your post into a few different lines would make it a whole lot easier to follow this...
 
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Breaking up your post into a few different lines would make it a whole lot easier to follow this...
Your right, sorry rayjay I was copy and pasting from my phone note pad and AM does not space it. Mose def ill space them out
 
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Tues

Had a full night sleep. Marry christmas to everyone and there family.

My mood is changing people have told me, I'm more patient with people. My attitude as well has changed, I'm in a good mood all the time. My core temp is up at random times while I'm resting.

I stepped on the scale today my weight 228.9 lbs. my muscles are rock solid with out having to flex. my veins are more visible, 3 off my close friends told me to get off the juice and stay off. the odd thing is that i never told them.

7 Am the dog woke me up. Walked him then took all my sups and trenavar took humapro

8:30 breakfast 3 egg whites 1 whole egg and 1/2 pound of herring filets.

12pm 8 oz of chicken 1/2 cup of rice. 2pm humapro and trenavar

5pm black coffee and a little of a banana split my daughter wanted me to share with her.

6pm my wife took me to the mall, some guy that look like a child molester was following this one kid all over the Disney store, the kid started playing with my son. So the guy is asking me is That )your son? Because I followed him all over the store? I asked we're your kids? If you don't have one wtf are you doing in a kids store with no kids following kids around. When I grabbed him by his shirt I told him fu*k off and if I see you near this kid ill beat your a*s then called the cops. My wife was like Wow :mad: normally I woulda been more aggressive ( I do not like predators I'm the type of person that does not allow someone to be prayed upon while I'm around especially kids)

7pm 1/2 cup of rice, 4 oz of chicken and a flan. I have noticed that when I eat a high fat meal toward the night I don't get the hunger pains in the middle of the night. like at first. ill eat a Boston cream donuts to see If I get the hunger pains like before. I will try different thing to see what works.

10 pm Dunkin Boston cream 315 cals wow that's more than a cheese burger, I think.

11pm drank two scoops of flurry protein, took trenavar, I felt like if humapro pill protein substitute are garbage. Don't get me wrong ill use it to the tub is done.

11:56pm my job called me in for an emergency, so I guess I'm not getting any continuos sleep tonight. I will take nap as I work. No gym time because my gym is closed for the holidays
 

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You run the risk of permanently desensitizing your testes running hCG doses like that.


Also, you have no problems injecting hCG but your still on an oral only cycle? ...........what!?
 
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You run the risk of permanently desensitizing your testes running hCG doses like that.

Also, you have no problems injecting hCG but your still on an oral only cycle? ...........what!?
Interesting point here. OP, have you considered pinning test instead of the big HCG doses?
 
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Interesting point here. OP, have you considered pinning test instead of the big HCG doses?
Can't find a reliable dealer of test or other injectable. Not scared of pinning :) lost that fear a year ago. I have read article of people using up-to 5000iu with out a problem. When I find a source that's legit I'll start using injectable.
 
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I'm not encouraging it or anything :). I just don't know enough about hCG to know which is harder on ya
 
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I'm not encouraging it or anything :). I just don't know enough about hCG to know which is harder on ya
:) I will eventually go into injectables :) my mind was made up over a year ago..... Lol.. I wanted to run test at 500mg, hcg 500 iu and anavar at 40 mg, but could not get my hands on test p and the anavar price was ridiculous. I did some research on hcg I was satisfied with what I researched. I did not look into it as a weight loss agent (ie hcg diet) I looked at it body as an anabolic.
 
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Wednesday

I thought it was going to be a easy night. :( fu*king FDNY they did not let me nap or slide out to the gym. My boss was also piste because he could not go home and sleep :) I told him lol now u know how I feel.

7:29 am I'm heading home early drinking a protein shake in the car.

8:10am took all my sups and trenavar went to sleep

1:20pm my wife woke me cuz I was beating up the bed. lol talk about vivid dreams. Talk about a full package my d*ck look like it grow about a inch I could not urinate for about 20 min it was hard like a rock.

1:25 pm my wife had made me 4 egg whites and a whole egg with coffee 4 stevia sugars

2:30pm a protein shake

6pm orange chicken mix vegetables extra green vegs. I was hungry I ate about 2 lbs of mix veg with an ginger ale fanta soda.

10pm 1000iu hcg, letro 2.5m, trenavar all my sups.

10:30pm protein shake

How I feel

I feel great, the only thing is that is throwing me off is this thirst. I'm drinking water and noting. I feel strong my muscles are rock solid, get extreme erections. Don't get tiered or worn out easily. Not in any pain recovering pretty fast, no soreness no joint pain. I get a few head aches every once in a while. My voice is getting a lil deeper people are asking if I have a cold my wife said I sound like the dos x ( the Mexican beer guy,) laughter breaks out when she see the commercial and the guy says ( stay thirsty my friend )

Ima skip the donut and see if I get the hunger pain tonight. Did not go to my gym today because lack of sleep. Tomorrow I'm going to go hard at least 3:30hrs to make up for tue, Wednesday. Ill take 30mg of trenavar 30min before the gym.
 
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Thurs

I feel stronger. My voice is getting deeper and I'm thirsty all the time I stepped on the scale 229.2lbs but I feel more solid all over.

4:20 am woke up starving so I microwaved a frozen small California pizza ate it and a greek yogurt went to bed.

7am woke up took trenavar and all my sups and went back to bed

11am woke up took all my sups and trenavar.

11:20am had a protein shake

12 pm gym catch up day plan on stay in the gym to 3:30pm then head to work got the afternoon shift today.

12:10 took humapro with a protein shake.

Flat bench 225lbs 12/10/8/6/8/10/12 last to failure 17 Flat bench
275 lbs 10/8/6/4 Flat bench
315 lbs 4/2/1

Decline bench press 315lbs 6/4/2/1
Decline bench press 275lbs 8/6/4/8
Decline bench press 365lbs 2/1
Decline bench press 315 lbs 4/2/1
Decline bench press 275lbs 10/8/6/10/12
Decline bench press 225lbs 12/10/8/6/8/10/12 last set to failure 14

Incline bench press 225lbs 12/10/8/10/12

Sit ups total 250
Pull up total 172
Dips total 159

Dead lift 405lbs 6/4/1
Dead lift 315lbs 8/6/6/6
Dead lift 275lbs 10/10/10
Dead lift 225 lbs 10/10/10/10

Shoulder barbell shrugs 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10

Deltoid raises 15lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10/6/4

Inverted row at bodyweight 15/15/15/12/12/12/12/10
Machine row 155lbs 12/10/10/10/10/10/10

3:50pm took BCAA protein shake. 1gram of glutamine and humapro after the work out

5:46pm I just noticed I have not eaten the whole day just a yogurt, I'm not hungry and don't have an apatite. If I don't get hungry by 6:30 pm ima go to the deli, and force eat.

6:50pm 3 egg whites 2 whole eggs scrambled on a croissant light oil salt and pepper , small black coffee 4 truvia sugars.

9:25pm took all my sups, trenavar and humapro

11:03 pm protein shake, I feel that my could of worked out harder at the gym but lost focus after 90mins in. My thirst also slowed me down because I was drinking a lot of water I felt bloated, heavy or full and that slowed me down as well. If I wake up hungry I will eat Greek yogurt until satisfied tonight. Lets see what happens.
 
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Yup nine sets and I have not been sore one day this whole week. I chose letro for a few reasons one its the best ai in my opinion it raises lh/fsh and crushes estrogen and progesterone which also lowers prolactin, also to prevent gyno plus when you inject Hcg at. Over 250iu you'll get a surge of estrogen with the boost of testosterone and lh thats one of the reason Choose to use a ai in the cycle. I'm doing hcg because it #one boost natural test levels which trenavar will lower,#2 keep my sex drive, my boys happy and my Htpa will not be suppressed through the hole cycle. 3000iu of hcg a week keeps my test levels Between 905-1200 (I ran hcg solo for 3 months under the supervision of my endo) to determine the hcg effect on my test level
Wrong. Hcg is an exogenous form of LH. Your Hpta will be completely suppressed by that dose if it isn't already.

Why do you think people say don't use Hcg in PCT.

Think about it next time
 
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Wrong. Hcg is an exogenous form of LH. Your Hpta will be completely suppressed by that dose if it isn't already.

Why do you think people say don't use Hcg in PCT.

Think about it next time
3000iu does not shut me down. I ran it at 1200iu x3 days a week for 6 month then at 1000iu x3 days a week my endo was ok with the lab results. I will run labs in feb to see how I'm doing.
 
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Friday

Could not sleep. Woke up every 20-30min

2am Ate a cup of rice my wife made me, she wrote a note I noticed you getting up every night to snack she said it might be insulin related on the note I eat the cup of rice and was satisfied. I will remove the chromium gtf while on cycle and see if that does the trick

5:45am protein shake, took all my sups and trenavar

Friday free for all got only 40min for gym workout because I woke up late

Squats 405lbs 10/10/10
Squats 315lbs 10/10/10/10
Squats 225lbs 10/10/10/10

Shoulder shrugs smith machine 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10

Smith machine dead lift 225lbs 10/10/10/10

Smith machine Calf raises 225lbs 10/10/10/10/10

Hammer curls 30lbs 10/10/10/10/10/10/10/10

Shoulder overhead dumbbell press 30lbs 10/10/10/10/10

Push ups 150 at the gym ran out of time. Ill do push up though out the day to catch up.

8am Greek Danone yogurt cherry flavor zero precent.

10:50am protein shake

12:09pm half a cup of quinoa with 8oz of chicken breast and sups

3pm all my sups and trenavar 2oz of pretzels

7pm. 8oz of cod fish

10:30pm protein shake,4 tacos trenavar hcg 1000iu letrozole 2.5 mg and all my sups
 
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3000iu does not shut me down. I ran it at 1200iu x3 days a week for 6 month then at 1000iu x3 days a week my endo was ok with the lab results. I will run labs in feb to see how I'm doing.
Either you tested with HCG still active in your system, or you are a genetic freak.
 
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Interesting that for the first time since I been on trenavar I have woke up almost every night. Yesterday I removed chromium gtf and ate a few carbs, I did not wake up starving like the other nights .

I have noticed that I'm a lil dehydrated, don't understand why I'm drinking over a gallon a day, my lips are always dry, my wife bought me a chap stick its sitting on a table somewhere. Men don't wear Chapstick. Smh.

The little fat I had around my arms and thighs is starting to reduce I fit comfortable in a 36 waist jean my jeans 38 feel loose.

Not shore if its the cold air in NYC but I'm finding that I'm taking a lot of deep beaths all the time sometimes I get shortness of breath once in a while. My shoulders are sore for the first time since I injured them 2 years ago they look way bigger that a week ago.

My mood is improved, but sometime I react before I think. People are telling me I look better. I feel like I put on a few pounds ill weight my self next sat and give an update on my body stats.

I Still have all my hair and its growing very rapidly. Still got my erections. Tolerating trenavar pretty well at current dose this is my 2nd week going into 3rd week. I feel good.

The constant Thirst is still there.

7:30am breakfast with the family 3 pancakes 4 whole eggs sausage and a black coffee 4 Splenda. Added a protein shake, trenavar all my sups

11:30protein shake, trenavar and sups

2pm 2 slices of NYC style pizza with a seltzer water.

4pm protein shake

7pm 2 slices of pizza and 8 buffalo wings with a Sierra mist 12oz

9pm I felt my nipples were a lil pointy and sensitive all day, so I took a letrozole 2.5 mg and an extra inhibit p

10:40 pm protein shake with trenavar and all my sups
 
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Sunday

6:50am 4 egg whites and a black coffee 4 truvia sugars, trenavar and all my sups

9am breakfast with my boss. Croissant with 2 egg whites and ham with 14 oz of ruby red tropicana grape fruit juice.

12 pm 2 cheese burgers, large fry a Dr.pepper. Not the best choice but not much to choose from we're I'm at right now.

2pm two protein shakes, trenavar and sups.

6:30 humapro all my sups

9pm red lobster 12oz steak one whole baked potatoes,half a cup of broccoli, half a scoop of vanilla ice cream and two beers.

11pm all sups, trenavar and a protein shake, double BCAA, glutamine and inhibit p.
 
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Not sure if I get this experiment. It would make more sense if you were also cruising on test. Good luck regardless.
 

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