My finaflex Epi-V cycle. First time

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  1. My Internet issues are finally resolved. Back to my logging. I'm going to go back days until I catch up.

    So here's my 8-31-12

    Am supps 7:30am
    2 Epi-V
    1 Opti men
    2 Fish oil
    1 Glucosamine
    1 Calcium 500+D

    Breakfast 8am
    4 egg whites
    1 whole egg
    1 whole wheat bagel
    1 cup mixed berries

    10am
    1 cup Vanilla Greek yogurt
    1/4 cup granola
    1/4 mixed nuts

    Mid day supps 12:30pm
    2 Epi-V
    1 Opti Men
    2 Fish oil
    1 Taurine
    3 BCAA caps

    Lunch 12:35

    1 Grilled Chicken salad
    1 tbsp light caeser
    1 Gatorade light
    1/2 cup brown rice

    No workout this day

    Cardio 3:45- 5:30pm
    Full court basketball games
    Played continuous as my team didn't lose
    A game until I had to go.

    Dinner 7:15pm
    2 cups California blend veggies
    1-8 oz salmon steak
    2 cups of water

    I normally intake between 1 to 2 gallons daily of water.

    Pm supps 10:30
    1 Opti men
    2 Fish oil
    1 Glucosamine
    1 Calcium500+D
    3 Zma
    1 PCT Black
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014


  2. I will try and take new pics this weekend. I suck at taking pictures. All the ones I take have to be improved.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014
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  3. Logging for 9-1-12

    This Day was a Bicep Triceps superset.
    For those who don't know I'm using Kris Gethens
    D.T.P. program.

    Am supps 7am
    1 Opti Men
    2 Fish Oil
    2 Epi-V
    1 Glucosamine
    1 Calcium500+D

    Breakfast 8am
    1 cup oatmeal
    1 serving of grapes
    1 banana

    I had no time to have a snack and wasn't really hungry. Loss of appetite is in full effect. I'm eating because I have to.

    Mid day sups 1pm
    1 Opti Men
    2 Fish Oil
    2 Epi-V
    1 Taurine
    3 BCAA caps

    Lunch 1pm
    Wasn't hungry at all
    Forced two corn tortillas
    With a can of tuna and a half salad.

    Pm snack 3:30pm
    1 cup Greek yogurt
    1 cup mixed berries

    Pre workout 6pm
    1 scoop of 1MR
    As I felt tired before training.


    Cable Curl. Overhead triceps extensions
    50lbs* 40. 50lbs*40
    60lbs*30. 60lbs*30
    85lbs*20. 85lbs*20
    140lbs*10. 140lbs*10
    150lbs*10. 150lbs*10

    Barbell curl. Skull Crusher
    110lbs*10. 90lbs*10
    90lbs*10. 90lbs*10
    70lbs*20. 70lbs*20
    60lbs*30. 60lbs*30
    40lbs*40. 40lbs*40

    3 Sets of Hanging Leg Raises

    20*BW
    20*BW
    20*BW

    3 Sets of Decline Sit-Ups
    15* BW+10lbs
    15*BW+10lbs
    20*BW +10lbs

    Dinner 8pm
    1-8oz Chicken Breast
    1 cup brown rice
    1 cup broccoli


    Pm sups 11pm
    2 Fish Oil
    1 Opti Men
    1 Glucosamine
    1 calcium+500D
    3 ZMA
    1 PCT Black
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014

  4. Both 9-2-12 and 9-3-12 were both days off as it was a long weekend and I was away with family.
    I did manage to get some basketball in on both days. Close to 1 hr each day.
    Diet was okay on both days but I did fall to a pice of chocolate cake. It was excellent as I haven't had junk food in a long while.

    9-2-12
    Am sups 8:30
    2 Epi-V
    2 Fish Oil
    1 Opti Men
    1 Glucosamine
    1 Calcium500+D

    10:30 am snack
    1 apple
    1 orange

    Mid day sups 2pm
    2 Epi-V
    2 Fish Oil
    1 Opti Men

    Lunch 2pm
    1 tuna wrap
    1 to go Greek yogurt


    Cardio 4pm
    3 on three basketball against some friends and family. Close to an hr.

    Dinner 7pm
    1 cup white rice as I was away
    1 ny strip off the grill
    1 cup red beans

    Pm sups10:30pm
    2 Fish Oil
    1 Opti Men
    1 glucosamine
    3 Zma
    1 pct black
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014

  5. Good work bro keep it up! Looking forward to some progress pics. I am due for some, but I havent had a good day to actually take quality photos. I took some last night, but the were washed out so im trying to get into some natural light.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443
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  6. Thanks for the support. I will be catching up on my logging and post progress pics. So I'm anticipating being caught up tonight if not tomorrow morning. Im trying to get good pictures together now. I dont like photos.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014

  7. What are your final numbers after this cycle (weight loss, bf, etc...). Interested in maybe trying EPI-V.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    What are your final numbers after this cycle (weight loss, bf, etc...). Interested in maybe trying EPI-V.
    The kind of thing I would expect from a 4 week run is a 2-4% body fat reduction without much weight loss if any. You will also be looking a lot harder... remember this is a finish product. The icing on the cake the wax after a car wash...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    The kind of thing I would expect from a 4 week run is a 2-4% body fat reduction without much weight loss if any. You will also be looking a lot harder... remember this is a finish product. The icing on the cake the wax after a car wash...
    Yeah I'm watching Greens log, debating on giving Epi-V a go.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Yeah I'm watching Greens log, debating on giving Epi-V a go.
    Yah he's already dropped 2% I think...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  11. You should look at my log lots of details and weekly pics Epi-v shreds Old fug, Read all about it...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    You should look at my log lots of details and weekly pics Epi-v shreds Old fug, Read all about it...
    Will def check it out.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  13. If this is the wax, what is good to start with? Is clen a better starting point? Never doing anything harsher than clen so need some assistance! I'm 5'11, 240 lbs.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    If this is the wax, what is good to start with? Is clen a better starting point? Never doing anything harsher than clen so need some assistance! I'm 5'11, 240 lbs.
    Diet is the answer, I mean supps can help lose some of the fat but diet is 95% so do the 95% then supps to finish ...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Right, my diet is pretty strict. High protein, moderate carbs and fats. Just looking for something to help me lean out and lose some fat thats better than your generic fat burners.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    Right, my diet is pretty strict. High protein, moderate carbs and fats. Just looking for something to help me lean out and lose some fat thats better than your generic fat burners.
    Yah they don't do enough that if makes that much of a difference untill you are in the latter stages that's the time for a little help.... Diet to get you close and then use things like Pro Xanthine to give you a boost. Then finish off with something like EPI-V ... I don't have too much difficulty and I am a classic endo...don't need things like Clen really...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah they don't do enough that if makes that much of a difference untill you are in the latter stages that's the time for a little help.... Diet to get you close and then use things like Pro Xanthine to give you a boost. Then finish off with something like EPI-V ... I don't have too much difficulty and I am a classic endo...don't need things like Clen really...
    Me too! I have a terrible time losing weight/fat though. Im going to step my cardio up and get even stricter on my diet and go from there.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    Me too! I have a terrible time losing weight/fat though. Im going to step my cardio up and get even stricter on my diet and go from there.
    I use intermittent fasting protocol ... lean gains...might be worth a shot..
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I use intermittent fasting protocol ... lean gains...might be worth a shot..
    Do you have a good article or blog about that?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    Do you have a good article or blog about that?
    Bigdaddy... First and foremost I need to say dieting is the hardest aspect of anyone's routine, minus those very lucky select few that are truly MESOMORPH's (put muscle on easy and keep fat off easy), both the ECTOMORPH's & ENDOMORPH's although polar opposites struggle with their diets to achieve their goals. OK, with that being said and completely agreeing with DW on diet being like 95% or more of how you look and what you can achieve with the exercise being done, all I can say is if it is not happening like it should, then it is 100% a problem in your diet somewhere. Remember, everyone is different, I have to clean my diet up so clean it is ridiculous in order to see the kind of results I want, but when I do, ask anyone here who knows me or has followed one of my Logs, what I can do is nothing short of Amazing and I promise you it is 95%+ all diet related! Diet is the key, there is no magic pills, there is no quick-fix, they only amplify/assist your efforts. Example, if you are giving it 100% they can help you achieve 110% results from 100% effort. In the big scheme of things that is amazing, but only if you are truly giving it 100%. Not trying to come down on you or act all high and mighty, believe me, I'm not, I definitely have my own pit-falls, just trying to emphasize the importance of proper diet and nutrition and ultimately help you learn what took me years to figure out!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  21. I agree with Al. Without your nutrition on lock you are just spinning wheels. Remeber supplements are exactly that...they fill in the gaps that our nutrition cannot provide. In the case of using Phs nutrition WILL make or break a cyle (I know from experience...we probably all do).
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Bigdaddy... First and foremost I need to say dieting is the hardest aspect of anyone's routine, minus those very lucky select few that are truly MESOMORPH's (put muscle on easy and keep fat off easy), both the ECTOMORPH's & ENDOMORPH's although polar opposites struggle with their diets to achieve their goals. OK, with that being said and completely agreeing with DW on diet being like 95% or more of how you look and what you can achieve with the exercise being done, all I can say is if it is not happening like it should, then it is 100% a problem in your diet somewhere. Remember, everyone is different, I have to clean my diet up so clean it is ridiculous in order to see the kind of results I want, but when I do, ask anyone here who knows me or has followed one of my Logs, what I can do is nothing short of Amazing and I promise you it is 95%+ all diet related! Diet is the key, there is no magic pills, there is no quick-fix, they only amplify/assist your efforts. Example, if you are giving it 100% they can help you achieve 110% results from 100% effort. In the big scheme of things that is amazing, but only if you are truly giving it 100%. Not trying to come down on you or act all high and mighty, believe me, I'm not, I definitely have my own pit-falls, just trying to emphasize the importance of proper diet and nutrition and ultimately help you learn what took me years to figure out!
    I agree 100%. The hardest part for me is finding the right balance of carbs/protein to get results. Still a work in progress. I may create my own blog just to track and share my current diet/training methods. Supplements are never the complete answer, and I know how diet plays the most important role in your look. Just thought I would try something I havent tried before. Thanks guys!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy_6224 View Post
    I agree 100%. The hardest part for me is finding the right balance of carbs/protein to get results. Still a work in progress. I may create my own blog just to track and share my current diet/training methods. Supplements are never the complete answer, and I know how diet plays the most important role in your look. Just thought I would try something I havent tried before. Thanks guys!
    BD... my dieting style is a LiL more old school vs. what DW and Green do with Lean Gains with IF, but I will share it with you because I was just like you, looking for the right fit and this helped me find the right fit for me. All proper diets are the exact same in one way and that is the macros have to be correct and the overall calories have to be correct, the rest is land-yap in my opinion unless one is truly in the very last stages/wks of a real pre-contest, ready to hit the stage style prep. Basic macros are 50% protein, 25% carbs, 25% fat, now after you have done this for a while you will find what you are more/less sensitive to, for example... I do best with around 55% protein, 25% fat, & 20% carbs, that is my magic number for right now and even that can change as my physique changes, as I age and my metabolism changes, etc. So be flexible and be willing to change. Next, find out what your resting metabolism is excluding your working out or cardio, once you have that info, lets just for easy math sakes say it is 2,000 cals. Then you want to find out (accurate guestimate, always round down) how many calories you are burning per day via workout &/or cardio, some days you may do only one, other days both and adjust your calories accordingly to always be in a 500calorie deficit in order to get leaner and a 500calorie surplus to gain mass, so if you are trying to lose weight and it is a workout day and you typically burn 500 cals per workout, then you eat all 2,000 cals, if it is an off day, then eat 1,500 cals, if it is a day where you do cardio and workout and both consume 500 cals each, then you eat 2,500 cals that day, pretty simple, don't over complicate it, keep it simple, but precise and measure things, schedule things, prepare in advanced, will help keep you from cheating or straying from the diet, etc.

    Pit-Fall...
    don't think about doing both (gaining mass and dropping fat), just concentrate on one or the other, trying to do both is advanced and you need to make sure you can accomplish both (individually) successfully before moving to the advanced stages of trying to do both at the same time, which is where supplements (PH's & fat-burners, etc.) are crucial!

    Where my diet differs from DW & Greens is I do mine in 6 meals evenly spread out through out the day and they will get all their calories (perfect macros, same amount of calories) but in an 8hr window out of each 24hr day, the rest is exactly the same. The difference between our diets is more of a preference difference, not that one works better than the other. But, with that being said, if one is easier for you than the other, then it is your obvious choice, again keep it simple, don't over-complicate your diet any more than necessary. For me, the 6 small meals lowers my appetite, makes me never feel bloated, I feel lighter and faster and like eating often, so it is easier for me. DW & Green, they prefer eating larger portions within their 8hr window, maybe it works better for them due to their work-schedule and timing through out the day, whatever their reason, they have found what works best for them and I only advise you do the same.

    In short, before I come across as too preachy, if the Cals are on target and the macros are on target it has to work, no differently than math... 2+2 will always = 4. Oh and one last thing... 99.9999999999999 infinity % of the time when someone says their diet is on target, but they just can't seem to lose fat, whether they realize it or not, there is a problem in their diet somewhere, somehow!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  24. Yah Al still does it the hard way...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  25. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    BD... my dieting style is a LiL more old school vs. what DW and Green do with Lean Gains with IF, but I will share it with you because I was just like you, looking for the right fit and this helped me find the right fit for me. All proper diets are the exact same in one way and that is the macros have to be correct and the overall calories have to be correct, the rest is land-yap in my opinion unless one is truly in the very last stages/wks of a real pre-contest, ready to hit the stage style prep. Basic macros are 50% protein, 25% carbs, 25% fat, now after you have done this for a while you will find what you are more/less sensitive to, for example... I do best with around 55% protein, 25% fat, & 20% carbs, that is my magic number for right now and even that can change as my physique changes, as I age and my metabolism changes, etc. So be flexible and be willing to change. Next, find out what your resting metabolism is excluding your working out or cardio, once you have that info, lets just for easy math sakes say it is 2,000 cals. Then you want to find out (accurate guestimate, always round down) how many calories you are burning per day via workout &/or cardio, some days you may do only one, other days both and adjust your calories accordingly to always be in a 500calorie deficit in order to get leaner and a 500calorie surplus to gain mass, so if you are trying to lose weight and it is a workout day and you typically burn 500 cals per workout, then you eat all 2,000 cals, if it is an off day, then eat 1,500 cals, if it is a day where you do cardio and workout and both consume 500 cals each, then you eat 2,500 cals that day, pretty simple, don't over complicate it, keep it simple, but precise and measure things, schedule things, prepare in advanced, will help keep you from cheating or straying from the diet, etc.

    Pit-Fall...
    don't think about doing both (gaining mass and dropping fat), just concentrate on one or the other, trying to do both is advanced and you need to make sure you can accomplish both (individually) successfully before moving to the advanced stages of trying to do both at the same time, which is where supplements (PH's & fat-burners, etc.) are crucial!

    Where my diet differs from DW & Greens is I do mine in 6 meals evenly spread out through out the day and they will get all their calories (perfect macros, same amount of calories) but in an 8hr window out of each 24hr day, the rest is exactly the same. The difference between our diets is more of a preference difference, not that one works better than the other. But, with that being said, if one is easier for you than the other, then it is your obvious choice, again keep it simple, don't over-complicate your diet any more than necessary. For me, the 6 small meals lowers my appetite, makes me never feel bloated, I feel lighter and faster and like eating often, so it is easier for me. DW & Green, they prefer eating larger portions within their 8hr window, maybe it works better for them due to their work-schedule and timing through out the day, whatever their reason, they have found what works best for them and I only advise you do the same.

    In short, before I come across as too preachy, if the Cals are on target and the macros are on target it has to work, no differently than math... 2+2 will always = 4. Oh and one last thing... 99.9999999999999 infinity % of the time when someone says their diet is on target, but they just can't seem to lose fat, whether they realize it or not, there is a problem in their diet somewhere, somehow!
    Thanks for the info man! I really appreciate it! I am going to sit down this weekend and pick my diet apart and properly calculate my macros. I have a diet that a trainer wrote for me based off of a 35/45/20 split (Protein/carbs/fats) that I started back on this week and dropped 2 lbs. It worked pretty well, but with my new work schedule some adustments will need to be made to better fit my schedule. For instance, I lift at 5:30 am, and eating egg whites and oatmeal prior is pretty difficult unless I get up at 4 am...and I have a 1 yr old....sooooooo...LOL! But be on the look out for my forum post! Right now I am actually only taking glycoject (post workout carbs), protein (ON 100% Whey), Animal Pak vitamins and fish oil. Just the basics. Giving my system the month of september off and see how my body reacts with no fat burners, creatine, PH's, etc...

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc

    BD... my dieting style is a LiL more old school vs. what DW and Green do with Lean Gains with IF, but I will share it with you because I was just like you, looking for the right fit and this helped me find the right fit for me. All proper diets are the exact same in one way and that is the macros have to be correct and the overall calories have to be correct, the rest is land-yap in my opinion unless one is truly in the very last stages/wks of a real pre-contest, ready to hit the stage style prep. Basic macros are 50% protein, 25% carbs, 25% fat, now after you have done this for a while you will find what you are more/less sensitive to, for example... I do best with around 55% protein, 25% fat, & 20% carbs, that is my magic number for right now and even that can change as my physique changes, as I age and my metabolism changes, etc. So be flexible and be willing to change. Next, find out what your resting metabolism is excluding your working out or cardio, once you have that info, lets just for easy math sakes say it is 2,000 cals. Then you want to find out (accurate guestimate, always round down) how many calories you are burning per day via workout &/or cardio, some days you may do only one, other days both and adjust your calories accordingly to always be in a 500calorie deficit in order to get leaner and a 500calorie surplus to gain mass, so if you are trying to lose weight and it is a workout day and you typically burn 500 cals per workout, then you eat all 2,000 cals, if it is an off day, then eat 1,500 cals, if it is a day where you do cardio and workout and both consume 500 cals each, then you eat 2,500 cals that day, pretty simple, don't over complicate it, keep it simple, but precise and measure things, schedule things, prepare in advanced, will help keep you from cheating or straying from the diet, etc.

    Pit-Fall...don't think about doing both (gaining mass and dropping fat), just concentrate on one or the other, trying to do both is advanced and you need to make sure you can accomplish both (individually) successfully before moving to the advanced stages of trying to do both at the same time, which is where supplements (PH's & fat-burners, etc.) are crucial!

    Where my diet differs from DW & Greens is I do mine in 6 meals evenly spread out through out the day and they will get all their calories (perfect macros, same amount of calories) but in an 8hr window out of each 24hr day, the rest is exactly the same. The difference between our diets is more of a preference difference, not that one works better than the other. But, with that being said, if one is easier for you than the other, then it is your obvious choice, again keep it simple, don't over-complicate your diet any more than necessary. For me, the 6 small meals lowers my appetite, makes me never feel bloated, I feel lighter and faster and like eating often, so it is easier for me. DW & Green, they prefer eating larger portions within their 8hr window, maybe it works better for them due to their work-schedule and timing through out the day, whatever their reason, they have found what works best for them and I only advise you do the same.

    In short, before I come across as too preachy, if the Cals are on target and the macros are on target it has to work, no differently than math... 2+2 will always = 4. Oh and one last thing... 99.9999999999999 infinity % of the time when someone says their diet is on target, but they just can't seem to lose fat, whether they realize it or not, there is a problem in their diet somewhere, somehow!
    Great explanation.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Great explanation.
    <Reps> Thanks... as any Veteran knows... Nutrition is KING!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  28. So as I'm coming close to the end of my cycle I'm starting to think if I should add ten more days.
    I have been keeping up with all my diet and exercise and been extremely busy. I haven't been able to log on the daily but promise to update tomorrow and get up to date. I have been taking pics and this is one of them. I'm going to try and post side by sides when I catch up with logging.


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    This is today. Its obvious just in this photo. I'm going to post side by sides of all my original photos on here. Once again my lighting sucks so I'm trying to get some higher quality shots in.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/232784-rushing-into-my.html

    Competition bound 2014

  30. Nice progress bro, definitely more lean!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443
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